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Zeno FRA, his wincon is more convincing
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Kai (Ninjago) vs Zen'ō (Dragon Ball Super) [0-9-5] (GRACE ENDED)
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He'll view Zeno as slow before that
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....ha? What? No he won't lol. Clinching a fist [especially a small fist] is fated than whatever is Kai going to do.He'll view Zeno as slow before that
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Yes he would, read the Spinjitzu page
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Spinjitzu in questions
Yeah Zeno squishing his hand is definitely faster that twirling your entire body into a typhoon
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Yeah I have seen the "The Tasmanian devil" copy ahh move, and Thinking about the movie + spining your body + approaching your opponent is definitely, totally, absolutely than clinching your fist.
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Great job using Jay's first time trying to use Spinjitzu
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More like every moment from 2011 - 2020Great job using Jay's first time trying to use Spinjitzu
But sure just the first time
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Zeno raises his hand to ask the teacher a question FRA
Fezzih_007
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Fra (voting Zeno)
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Lloyd instanly speedblitz Nindroids upon using Spinjitzu
That's cuz a lot of these guys dodging Spinjitzu can actually keep up in speed with them... "Super Saiyan isn't a multiplier cuz villains overpowered Goku" ah argument
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In case it wasn't clear from my first comment, I vote Zeno
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Is it grace now?
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I have to count sum votes beforehand
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Btw, isn't Zeno's EE AP Based?
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Nah, it's based on deeze nuts
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its historical EE, it ignores durability
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It can't, not unless Kai has EE resistance.
Im asking this as in can it be overpowered by higher AP
And even if It was ap based [it ain't], it won't matter because the EE is going to target his existence across all of time, so unless sperm Kai has low 1-C dura/Resistance to EE, he is going Erased.
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Speed blitzing here on VBW is a lot more stringent and is a matter of a numbers.
Because across different fictions, characters can be 2x as fast to speed blitz and others 3x as fast and others 10x as fast and others 100x as fast and so on and so forth. VBW has made the general consensus that a character needs to be at least 7.5x faster than the other to speed blitz them. That number is exact.
So since speed starts equal here, you’d need to show us a statement that confirms that Spinjitzu is a 7.5x multiplier in speed. Otherwise it’s simply an unknown multiplier and cannot be used cannot be argued for speed blitzing. Speed amping sure but not blitzing.
And even then, all of that matters little when the fact exist they still need to at least perform a full body twirl to enter spinjitzu which Zeno squish of the the hand is still faster than a body twirl.
Vietthai96
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Kai has slower speed (FTL) so even if speed amp allow him to speed blitz Zeno it won't be accepted cause vsbw rule won't allow character with slower speed can speed blitz via speed amp in a speed equal match. And that is if we assume that Kai can speed amp at that level, 7.5x speed
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Kai has Low 1-C dura tho? What?
Zeno needs to raise his hand, generated a whole blast before squishing, saying he only makes one move is untrue
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Sperm Kai doesn't [this is assuming that the ee is ap based, because it isn't, I'm just even if It was, it doesn't matter]
And Kai has to spin his body like a ballerina, spin even faster, and then move to zeno [this is assuming the amp is blitz worthy, and if it is, the mat has won't be added] that entire sequence is still a lot longer than zeno clinching his fist and erasing Kai.
Vietthai96
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Low 1-C dura or 1-A dura doesn't matter, he has no EE History resistance
are we seriously ignore this feat where Frost get instant erased without any blast get generated??
Fezzih_007
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Why you saying he gonna use the speed amp, the previous page you saying he gonna start with blasting Zeno.
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It’s EE sir
Unless Kai has EE resistance
That to on a History Level then we are done here
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hax do be haxing, though I must say it's a bit weird to see Dragon Ball not being on the side trying to argue "But my durability tho"
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That's what I thought too, its just that when he said "you need Low 1-C dura", he had me confused
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Match still gets added
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Welp rip. Anyway, can you add my vote in the mlp match?Match still gets added
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see i was right
everyone voting zeno because of me
everyone voting zeno because of me
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No u were not, Kai can shoot flames without even moving
Should've used his optionnal equipements or his SOE FormMatch still gets added
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I wanted to use DF Form against DB
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Already grace but I'll vote Zeno FRA anyways.
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Stomp & massive mismatch
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