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@HSTMaster, I'll respond later, about to start my shift. Sorry.
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Kaguya Ōtsutsuki vs Goku And Vegeta (Frieza Saga)
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This discussion is so frustrating... half the people seem to have not the slightest clue of Kaguya's capabilites and most ain't willing to look them up either. Reading the damn Wikia articles takes no longer than 10 Minutes.
Fact is:
1. ETSB will kill Goku and Vegeta. They are cocky enough to let her charge the thing up - not that this takes that long. As far as Manga goes, a KaMeHaMeHa takes longer. And if the explosion wont kill them, which it should, guessing from Durability, the Vacuum of Space or the empty Void of a erased Dimension will.
2. Both Goku and Vegeta have not the slightest defense against Kaguyas Amenominaka, which requires no physical contact. Neither Vegeta or Goku will be able to survive either the Lava, Acid or Ice Dimension. Sooner or later they will die. They, as of this point in the series have no way of leaving said Dimensions either. This will also be the first action she takes.
3. Kaguya is only and ONLY interested in Chrakra. Precisely her own. Even in character, keeping that in mind, she is very much willing to kill people possessing her Chakra - look here at her trying to murder Naruto and Sasuke instantaneously by teleporting them in the Lava Dimension. Later she also tries to kill them with AKB. She leaves Sasuke in the Desert Dimension. And she was very much villing and ready to kill Momoshiki and the other guy, since they were to big a threat to her.
4. What the crap would hold her from teleporting to Earth and using the moon THERE to use Ínfinite Tsukuyomi? Nothing.
5. Kaguya can absorb a entire Planets worth of Chakra - she sould be able to absorb at least SOME of their attacks.
6. Black Zetsu is very much present in this fight - All the Participants are at full power and Zetsu is a part of Kaguya just as much as a shadow clone is of Naruto. He is nothing more than a manifestation of her will.
7. Kaguya is very much able to use extremely powerful Gen-Jutsu. She was able to hold Naruto and Sasuke in Place with just a Glance, which is confirmed to be a Variant of the Temporary Paralysis Technique. Considering Sasuke's ludicrous resistance to Gen-Jutsu in general and visual Gen-Jutsu especially, it should work on Goku and Vegeta.
Fact is:
1. ETSB will kill Goku and Vegeta. They are cocky enough to let her charge the thing up - not that this takes that long. As far as Manga goes, a KaMeHaMeHa takes longer. And if the explosion wont kill them, which it should, guessing from Durability, the Vacuum of Space or the empty Void of a erased Dimension will.
2. Both Goku and Vegeta have not the slightest defense against Kaguyas Amenominaka, which requires no physical contact. Neither Vegeta or Goku will be able to survive either the Lava, Acid or Ice Dimension. Sooner or later they will die. They, as of this point in the series have no way of leaving said Dimensions either. This will also be the first action she takes.
3. Kaguya is only and ONLY interested in Chrakra. Precisely her own. Even in character, keeping that in mind, she is very much willing to kill people possessing her Chakra - look here at her trying to murder Naruto and Sasuke instantaneously by teleporting them in the Lava Dimension. Later she also tries to kill them with AKB. She leaves Sasuke in the Desert Dimension. And she was very much villing and ready to kill Momoshiki and the other guy, since they were to big a threat to her.
4. What the crap would hold her from teleporting to Earth and using the moon THERE to use Ínfinite Tsukuyomi? Nothing.
5. Kaguya can absorb a entire Planets worth of Chakra - she sould be able to absorb at least SOME of their attacks.
6. Black Zetsu is very much present in this fight - All the Participants are at full power and Zetsu is a part of Kaguya just as much as a shadow clone is of Naruto. He is nothing more than a manifestation of her will.
7. Kaguya is very much able to use extremely powerful Gen-Jutsu. She was able to hold Naruto and Sasuke in Place with just a Glance, which is confirmed to be a Variant of the Temporary Paralysis Technique. Considering Sasuke's ludicrous resistance to Gen-Jutsu in general and visual Gen-Jutsu especially, it should work on Goku and Vegeta.
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You know...making this thread was probably a mistake
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What... Now your just trying to save Kaguya. She can't absorb the level of Goku and Vegeta's energy attacks period. To say she can but hasn't displayed the ability to is NLF.
It's like saying Dr Gero can absorb a blast from the Grand Preist...
Honestly I'm just going to close this thread. It's a complete AP stomp and even though Kaguya has hax it's mostly null. She's fighting two people at once who can literally point and kill her.
If someone wants to continue disscusing Kaguya's abilities you can talk to each other on your walls. I'm just sick of these Naruto verse Dragon Ball Z threads as they always go the same way and I know for a fact it's about to just go in circles.
@Rikimaro
I apologise but I'm closing this.
What... Now your just trying to save Kaguya. She can't absorb the level of Goku and Vegeta's energy attacks period. To say she can but hasn't displayed the ability to is NLF.
It's like saying Dr Gero can absorb a blast from the Grand Preist...
Honestly I'm just going to close this thread. It's a complete AP stomp and even though Kaguya has hax it's mostly null. She's fighting two people at once who can literally point and kill her.
If someone wants to continue disscusing Kaguya's abilities you can talk to each other on your walls. I'm just sick of these Naruto verse Dragon Ball Z threads as they always go the same way and I know for a fact it's about to just go in circles.
@Rikimaro
I apologise but I'm closing this.
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