Raws take precedence as Kanji is very specific and of course the original language.
It does take precedence, because the author of the series chose viz to interpret gege’s work. The viz also is not contradictory to the raw, it just specifies moreso that it reached the speed of sound, which is moreso just above. And the argument for it not being a real bullet is also there, considering the students were ordered not to kill anyone besides yuji, using a real bullet doesn’t make sense, and we also know mai had rubber bullets
So yuji is hit with an attack slower than that? And yuji scales way above maki, so this Mach 27 feat seems weird
That’s blatantly not what I’m saying. Obviously if the viz were to totally contradict the raw then I’d understand, but it doesn’t. It only extrapolates on the raw, and adds specification, saying it reached the speed of sound, and the attack slows down after it starts and still hits yuji
That doesn't mean anything, the clearer translation of the Gege meant isn't superseded by a potential translation error from an English translation.
Except you are claiming Viz is contradicting the raws. The raws clearly state the attack EXCEEDS and not REACHES. This is a clear difference in intention, so yes Viz is wrong in this instance.
Yes it does. How is the other translation “clearer” if anything, the viz would be since it’s non contradictory, but still extrapolates on the raw. And if it was an error, they would’ve corrected such. This stuff is obviously reviewed more than once. And no, the speed of a rubber bullet is 60m/s https://military.wikia.org/wiki/Rubber_bullet#Riot_control_use
No, Gege gave them rights to trnaslate and publish his work. Viz is not some alternative timeline like TEOI verse dragonball. It's literally an English publishing company buying the rights to publish the work. Mistrasnaltion is just a human error.
Yes, and we give more weight to the more accurate description, in this case the one describing the attack as superseding sound. Which means the result is perfectly fine.
No. It says “said to reach the speed of sound” is NOT contradictory to exceed. It doesn’t say it hasn’t exceeded the speed of sound, BUT the more direct COMPARISON being made is between the speed of sound and the convergence.
It wasn't stated to be a real bullet.
Yes and those don't use the same means of propelling the bullets. Read the source
Are you listening to yourself? You just agreed that gege gave viz the right to translate their series, and since I’ve explained in previous replies to other people how the interpretations are not contradictory, we should go with the publications translation, as they hold the rights to OFFICIALLY translate the series
What ... Reaching a speed and exceeding a speed are very different concepts. Reaching a speed means it is equal in speed. Exceeding a speed means it is greater than. I hope I have to explain how these two meanings are contradictory in nature.
I don’t see how that follows. The material/texture of these things are also important. Like friction, a rubber bullet would be slowed down leaving a chamber, where as normal ones wouldn’t be nearly to the same extent. I would need a deeper explanation or study to support that claim
No, because it doesn’t say it’s capped out at, or hasn’t exceeded this speed, it says it’s at least reached this speed, but the viz draws are more direct comparison to the speed of sound, so we should take this interpretation
I am, I don't think you know what you're talking about. What Gege wrote in the originally published Japanese is straight from his mouth. The English translation is just that, a translation. When discussing canon we use what is most cloest to the author's own words, and in this case we have them. Viz making a human error of translation doesn't mean anything. I don't understand how you don't get this. There ability to OFFICIALLY translate the series means nothing about what is written in the viz compared to what was published directly from the author.
Yes it does, because if gege was so adamant about the wording, they would’ve clarified with viz and it would’ve been amended, but this is what was accepted, and as I’ve iterated and explained to multiple people several times, the interpretations ARENT contradictory. Nobody either has given a solid refutation to the maki feat being a real bullet
That is an assumption on your part you have no way of proving or making a claim on. Viz was slightly off, you think Gege was going to make them amend the publishing with a whole new batch of books?
This is ... so blatantly wrong. I reach a weight loss goal when I lose that much weight. I exceed the weight loss goal if I go beyond it.
If the raws say otherwise, the raws take precedence.
Translations for JJK are notorious, not just manga, but anime too. Another example is Megumi's "as long as they have a firm personality", which is changed to "she" in the anime. Or like Viz's translation of Nobara and the "seats" in her life, when when the chapter actually came out weekly, she simply told Yuji if you're not in her shoes, don't tell her what to feel.
If I exceed a weight loss goal, that still means I reached it. And all I’m saying, is that it’s more so compared to the speed of sound, than more than dozens above
Please stop adding unnecessary comments about chaos and carnage all the time, it's just a debating site, not some gladiator match.
Sure, but the raw isn’t mutually exclusive to the viz, all I’m saying is that it’s more in the range of SPEED OF SOUND rather than dozens of times faster. Another thing so nobody has adequately addressed why it should be a real bullet, while I provided evidence as to why it shouldn’t be
Head-canon.
Yup, now prove the reverse. Because that is what you are currently trying to argue.
It is exceeds the Speed of Sound, this actually leaves a lot of room for interpretation. Is it wrong though to say that being Mach 26 exceeds the speed of sound?
No. I’m saying that the viz, which I’ve thoroughly explained isn’t contradictory, draws a comparison moreso to the speed of sound, but not dozens of times faster. And once again, nobody has substantiated why it should be a real bullet, while I have provided pieces of evidence as to why it shouldn’t, those being the fact she only had rubber bullets at goodwill, and that she wasn’t supposed to kill anyone besides yuji
I’m saying that the viz is interpreting it to be more so relative to the speed of sound, not dozens of times faster, and nobody has even proven why it’s a real bullet, while I’ve provided evidence as to why it shouldn’t be
A.) That argument is completely separate to the blood attack one in OP.
www.fusil-calais.com
That’s fine if you disagree with the statement, but do you have any substantiation for it being a real bullet fired at maki, because I’ve provided evidence that it shouldn’t be
Because the only rubber bullet she fired was at Nobara, when Gakuganji's orders were to kill Yuji, implying she actually does have a real bullet in there.
And Viz can be wrong, so it doesn't matter.
