Jujutsu Kaisen: Ryu Crater Feat

[KingTempest]

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JJK Project Chapter 176 Feats

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So in the calc above, we see that the granite blast calc uses vaporization.
I'm not sure Vaporization is valid.

We see dust clouds instead of smoke, debris in the clouds, and dust on the ground.

It looks a lot like violent frag with some pulv aspects.

If we use pulv: 214 * 280802400 = 60091713600 joules = 14.362264245 tons
If we use v frag: 69 * 280802400 = 19375365600 joules = 4.630823518 tons
If we use half of each: (214 * 280802400/2) + (69 * 280802400/2) = 39733539600 joules = 9.496543881 tons

This thread is just primarily to see if this is right and if we should change it. Scaling repercussions or replacements can honestly happen after.

 

[KingTempest]

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[Damage3245]

With no vaporization statement, it's pretty easy to interpret those as dust clouds. OP looks legit to me though I'm not fully sure on which end is best.

 

[SunDaGamer]

It looks like the material that used to be where the crater is was pulverized and everything else around the blast was blown apart and fragged

 

[M3X_2.0]

I still think it’s vaporization. We see that Yuta’s hand got burned and again on Rika’s hands.

And I’m pretty sure that’s something CE in general shares because Rika’s blast had the same effect on Ryu. And Ryu seemed to get burned when he got hit with his own GB in the end.

If we’re not using vaporization anymore, then pulverization should be used because there is no way in hell this is frag or v frag. And there is something left to do which is calc the concrete part (basically the street) and the rock part. I didn’t do that because it was irrelevant to kilotons but it’d be useful for tons.

 

[Dalesean027]

Were there every any temperature or vap statements for it cause if not then sure. Those looks like thicker debris clouds anyways?

 

[Chariot190]

The ripped up road does look like pulv, not vape ngl
But

Whatever happened, obviously had a fuckton of heat behind it, shit looks charred, and the building in the back honestly does look like it got vaped.
But the road bit looks more like it was blown apart based on the texturing of the destroyed part?

Like the rough texture (and few chunks), if it was vape, I think it'd be smoother, maybe glassed or more worn down, maybe drawn darker like the heat marks?
It's at least pulv tho, yeah we see debris, but most at the edges, and a few stray bits that don't account for even 1% of the total volume.
As for the smoke clouds, idk, depends how Gege draws that shit, do we have a confirmed example of Vape like with Jogo we can cross ref? If it's the same then yeah vape cool, but if we don't, I'm seeing a mix tbh, like the obvious ones look like dust, but in the background, there looks like whispy vapor clouds so...
Tbh, it's probably a mix of both, stuff at the edges blown apart, lot of shit was probably pulved, some stuff was prob cooked and ashed and vaped (like the building?), etc. Not strictly one or the other based on what I'm seeing
but "how should we calc i-", lmao idk, here's a funny frug gif

 

[DMUA]

I still think it’s vaporization. We see that Yuta’s hand got burned and again on Rika’s hands.

Heat can pulverize. I don't get where the idea that every thermal attack absolutely must be vaporization comes from.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Heat can pulverize. I don't get where the idea that every thermal attack absolutely must be vaporization comes from.

It can but it’s most likely never the case. Heat pulverizing rather than vaporizing is straight up false in most cases where we see vapor coming out of the crater.

 

[KingTempest]

But that doesn't appear to be vapor though, it looks like strong ass dust

Like this is what vapor looks like in JJK

 

[KingTempest]

bro come on

 

[M3X_2.0]

Dumbass

 

[Chariot190]

Heat can pulverize.

Not really no, you can't pulv concrete or rock with pure heat, at least, not before it melts, unless it's tied to something else, like a punch or blast, but at that point, it isn't the heat doing the pulving, but that other thing. Like pure heat is going to melt a rock long before it turns it to ash.
idk what the **** a granite blast even is tho

But that doesn't appear to be vapor though, it looks like strong ass dust

Like this is what vapor looks like in JJK

Dog just dm me

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

idk what the **** a granite blast even is tho

A laser that comes out of a reincarnated 400+ year old man’s pompadour

 

[KingTempest]

A laser that comes out of a reincarnated 400+ year old man’s pompadour

The best way of explaining it actually

 

[Arkenis]

Another thing, not sure if it was mentioned, but it likely only fv/pulved the ground due to Yuta being there to block the blast somewhat. The building he destroyed should be calced for vap instead

 

[DMUA]

or blast

Like a Granite blast, you could say.

 

[JnSteHar002]

A laser that comes out of a reincarnated 400+ year old man’s pompadour

This is appreciated

idk what the **** a granite blast even is tho

I found the JJK wiki defines it as Ryu's technique of discharging compressed/concentrated CE like a canon at full power. I can't find if Ryu has a specific trait to his own CE so it might become an issue of what traits regular CE holds, depending on how technical we get.

 

[M3X_2.0]

bump

 

[SunDaGamer]

I think Chariot's suggestion of using vaporization for the building in the background along with pulverization for the street crater could work

 

[TheRustyOne]

There is no vaporized building in the background. Yuta's in the middle of the road. The only buildings are off to the side.

Here is a map in real life of the exact distance between them. Also, yes that is where Yuta is standing. I know I'm not exact, but you get the point.

His blast damaged some of the buildings on the side, but that is it. There is no building in the crater area nor are there any between Yuta and Ryu.

Also, I feel the shape being used is incorrect. It's not a rectangle, the crater area further away from Yuta is not as wide as when it reaches Yuta.

However, it seems the calc group members here agree that the crater on the road was pulverized. Or am I wrong? I agree with the road being pulverized instead of vaporized.

Note: M3X seem to have edit the calc to use the real life length, which is think is far better than getting the length via angular size. What do you all think of that?