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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

In Shibuya it's 15, once the culling game started, 16
Where did Yuji get a finger in-between the ending of Shibuya and the start of the Culling Games? I thought it was understood that everyone was just miscounting up to this point without realizing it
 
No? He's never said to be stronger than 15 Finger Sukuna from Shibuya
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From the General Q&A section of the fanbook
 
It was a low-output Red that still damaged him despite being weakened by Domain Amplification. And off guard? That's not how this works.
Gojo's red wasn't Low output instead it was weakened by Sukuna's DA though it was pretty much clear Gojo intentionally manipulated red to strike him from behind.
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Secondly we see DA was not active when that Red was blasted him
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Off-guard is off-guard nothing else. Nah this Gojo glazing should stop. So a character can't get off-guard and hit from behind and get hurt?
Do you think Sukuna is so un-vigilant so as to drop his reinforcement while standing right in front of Gojo?
He already dropped his guard many times. I don't see why he wouldn't drop his guard when talking instead of fighting. He just likes to enjoy the fight few time it's not like he would be locked in whole fight. Both Gojo and Sukuna were goofing around in the middle of the fight 3 times atleast the time I can count.
Speaking of which, DA enhances the user as well, so Red doing that much damage at low-output shows how powerful it is
Read the first paragraph. Also when Red struck him from behind his DA wasn't active. I literally posted the scan. It wasn't even low output as you make it look like Gojo intentionally manipulated trajectory and sent it from back to attack Sukuna

If Red was so effective he wouldn't be sneaking around. He could have blasted Sukuna head on.
As for the first Red, it was taken by a Domain-buffed Sukuna. Of course it's gonna so less damage
Red already has twice the output of CE from Gojo's. So I don't see how that's gonna answer anything here and this is irrelevant. Sukuna wasn't using DA at that time. We are talking about chapter 232 events not chapter 226.
 

That seal is for cursed spirits, not cursed objects though. It wouldn't make sense for the breaking of the seal to interact with Yuji, since we saw Kenjaku affect those with cursed objects like him in completely separate instance.
 
I just wanna say this "Sukuna didn't care about winning, only adapting" is sheer headcanon. The second Sukuna won the domain clash the first thing he did was concentrate his slashes on Gojo's neck, yet he wasn't trying to kill Gojo? The reason he used 10s inside the domain clashes was to protect himself from UV, which proved to be a necessary sacrifice given how the fight turned out.
 
we literally see Gojo's neck get slashed from all angles before any other slashes appear elsewhere on his body
That was visual representation nothing states he was aiming at neck. His domain attacks anything with CE on it.
You think he was just getting cut under neck only? First attack representation was just giving Gojo fan girls a heart attack lol
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He makes his points clear twice
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He could have just said I will kill you. Instead he makes it clear that he will adapt to Gojo's infinity.
 
That was visual representation nothing states he was aiming at neck. His domain attacks anything with CE on it.
You think he was just getting cut under neck only? First attack representation was just giving Gojo fan girls a heart attack lol
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Right, it's just "visuals", even though we get several panels of Gojo's concentrating his RCT on his neck as the slashes attack ONLY there before the slashes then more broadly attack the rest of his body. The sequence of events simply didn't canonically happen, it was just Gege trolling!!!
He makes his points clear twice
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He could have just said I will kill you. Instead he makes it clear that he will adapt to Gojo's infinity.
The reason why he specifies why he's targeting Gojo's infinity is because bypassing that is what's required for Sukuna to win and is something he cannot do by himself in a way which Gojo can't just overcome (DA & DE). If I'm fighting someone with a gun and my first act is to disarm them, does that mean I'm not fighting to win?
 
Right, it's just "visuals", even though we get several panels of Gojo's concentrating his RCT on his neck as the slashes attack ONLY there before the slashes then more broadly attack the rest of his body. The sequence of events simply didn't canonically happen, it was just Gege trolling!!!
You already have your answer. Lol
The reason why he specifies why he's targeting Gojo's infinity is because bypassing that is what's required for Sukuna to win and is something he cannot do by himself in a way which Gojo can't just overcome (DA & DE).
  • Sukuna didn't had to specify that. He could have stand there watch Gojo getting ripped to pieces inside his Closed Barriers Domain.
  • If Gojo doens't have his domain Sukuna has no reason for Mahogara or DA. He can let MS handle the work.
If I'm fighting someone with a gun and my first act is to disarm them, does that mean I'm not fighting to win?
Idk what you are trying to say because Sukuna's case is different. He was trying to win but his purpose was winning by creating a new technique with Mahogara's adaptation. I never said he was only fighting to create the technique but his main purpose is winning by creating a new technique.
 
That was visual representation nothing states he was aiming at neck. His domain attacks anything with CE on it.
You think he was just getting cut under neck only? First attack representation was just giving Gojo fan girls a heart attack lol
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He makes his points clear twice
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He could have just said I will kill you. Instead he makes it clear that he will adapt to Gojo's infinity.
The agenda most prolong to the point we'll classify what happens in the manga as visual representation in hopes of disregarding it.
 
The agenda most prolong to the point we'll classify what happens in the manga as visual representation in hopes of disregarding it.
We literally have Tornado based MS and Gojo vs Sukuna MS looks different than Shibuya MS. So I believe this is just visual representation.

Otherwise you can also say Sukuna was testing Gojo's strength? Either way it was clear Sukuna wanted to get rid of infinity first.
 
You already have your answer. Lol
Your position is purely assumptive then, we have no reason to doubt what we see on the page is what occurred.
  • Sukuna didn't had to specify that. He could have stand there watch Gojo getting ripped to pieces inside his Closed Barriers Domain.
  • If Gojo doens't have his domain Sukuna has no reason for Mahogara or DA. He can let MS handle the work.
Sukuna's MS wasn't enough to kill Gojo, even if you want to say he could no longer RCT through the slashes due to his head injury he still demonstrated to possess anti-domain techniques refined enough to make his cleaves papercuts, is able to destroy Sukuna's domain from within, and could likely teleport out according to Kusakabe. Sukuna's DE simply wasn't a win con for him, hence why he admits after the fight that his slashes weren't enough to kill Gojo without them being a WCS.
Idk what you are trying to say because Sukuna's case is different. He was trying to win but his purpose was winning by creating a new technique with Mahogara's adaptation. I never said he was only fighting ti create the technique but his main purpose is winning by creating a new technique.
He never once states he only wants to win via creating a new technique, like again you'd think if this was Gege's intention and Sukuna's overarching plan he'd give some indication towards it and yet the best you have is "well Sukuna talked about wanting to bypass Gojo's infinity a few times!" as if that's not a necessary prerequisite to beating Gojo.
We literally have Tornado based MS and Gojo vs Sukuna MS looks different than Shibuya MS. So I believe this is just visual representation.
The tornado one was created from an incomplete domain, hence why Sukuna wouldn't have used it, and idk how his Shibuya domain looks different or why an aesthetic difference of a CT be relevant to the actual chronological order of events in the story.
 
We literally have Tornado based MS and Gojo vs Sukuna MS looks different than Shibuya MS. So I believe this is just visual representation.
You have to point out why their differing matters, all I get from this is a non sequitur.
P1: X looks different than the other time X was used
C: X's differential looks is therefore a visual representation.
???
Otherwise you can also say Sukuna was testing Gojo's strength? Either way it was clear Sukuna wanted to get rid of infinity first.
This means nothing, Sukuna can want that while also trying to kill Gojo, since infinity is a huge defense mechanism that needs to be dealt with in order to kill Gojo, which is what we see him do with his domain. Btw Sukuna's statement of wanting to adapt to infinity is made when he knows Gojo doesn't have his domain anymore while thinking he has his, the risk factors has changed drastically for Sukuna, the ''I'll even'' part also suggests that this wasn't prioritised compared to carving Gojo into pieces. Not that these claims need to be pushed back that much, given we have literally evidence of Sukuna trying to kill Gojo with him slicing his neck in the DE clashes.
 
Your position is purely assumptive then, we have no reason to doubt what we see on the page is what occurred.
Your position is also assumption that Gege wasn't trolling then.
Sukuna's MS wasn't enough to kill Gojo, even if you want to say he could no longer RCT through the slashes due to his head injury he still demonstrated to possess anti-domain techniques refined enough to make his cleaves papercuts, is able to destroy Sukuna's domain from within, and could likely teleport out according to Kusakabe.
His anti domain technique were already getting wrecked by Sukuna's MS even when Gojo was 100% health. We are talking about Gojo whose brain got fried. Couldn't even stand properly. Also Gojo can't & has zero feats or statements for teleporting out of the any barriers let alone Domain.
Sukuna's DE simply wasn't a win con for him, hence why he admits after the fight that his slashes weren't enough to kill Gojo without them being a WCS.
It's a Wincon against brain fried Gojo.
  • Low output both CT And RCT
  • Sealed inside the domain which we don't know how many minutes he has to endure it. His output was getting reduced the longer the fight was going on.
He never once states he only wants to win via creating a new technique, like again you'd think if this was Gege's intention and Sukuna's overarching plan he'd give some indication towards it and yet the best you have is "well Sukuna talked about wanting to bypass Gojo's infinity a few times!" as if that's not a necessary prerequisite to beating Gojo.
He wanted a technique based on his slashes that's already shows he wanted to upgrade his CT. If he wanted to win why didn't he made Mahogara cut Gojo in half instead of made him cut his hand only and waited and copied that technique to himself? Think brother think. You think it was hard for Mahogara to cut Gojo in half when Sukuna can do that Gojo couldn't even react to his hand getting sliced apart?

He clearly made adaptation proceed based on his original CT. He never tried to kill Gojo with Mahogara. Which already backs up my point.
The tornado one was created from an incomplete domain, hence why Sukuna wouldn't have used it, and idk how his Shibuya domain looks different or why an aesthetic difference of a CT be relevant to the actual chronological order of events in the story.
Shibuya domain and recent chapter domain looks somewhat similar (except Tornado part) & New domain doesn't have any new function as far as it was stated. Sukuna's Shibuya Domain was also placed above ground.
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Anyway if you still disagree. Then agree to disagree. I have other work to do I can't keep arguing here with this. Let's end this here.
 
You have to point out why their differing matters, all I get from this is a non sequitur.
P1: X looks different than the other time X was used
C: X's differential looks is therefore a visual representation.
???

This means nothing, Sukuna can want that while also trying to kill Gojo, since infinity is a huge defense mechanism that needs to be dealt with in order to kill Gojo, which is what we see him do with his domain. Btw Sukuna's statement of wanting to adapt to infinity is made when he knows Gojo doesn't have his domain anymore while thinking he has his, the risk factors has changed drastically for Sukuna, the ''I'll even'' part also suggests that this wasn't prioritised compared to carving Gojo into pieces. Not that these claims need to be pushed back that much, given we have literally evidence of Sukuna trying to kill Gojo with him slicing his neck in the DE clashes.
Not gonna keep repeating the same so cya later.
He wanted a technique based on his slashes that's already shows he wanted to upgrade his CT. If he wanted to win why didn't he made Mahogara cut Gojo in half instead of made him cut his hand only and waited and copied that technique to himself? Think brother think. You think it was hard for Mahogara to cut Gojo in half when Sukuna can do that Gojo couldn't even react to his hand getting sliced apart?

He clearly made adaptation proceed based on his original CT. He never tried to kill Gojo with Mahogara. Which already backs up my point.
Anyway if you still disagree. Then agree to disagree. I have other work to do I can't keep arguing here with this. Let's end this here.
 
Your position is also assumption that Gege wasn't trolling then.
lmfaoooooo
His anti domain technique were already getting wrecked by Sukuna's MS even when Gojo was 100% health. We are talking about Gojo whose brain got fried. Couldn't even stand properly. Also Gojo can't has zero feats or statements for teleporting out of the any barriers let alone Domain.
Kusakabe and Hakari state he can do it, the only reason he didn't is due to CT burn out from his domain collapses, either way we're literally told that it's only later in the fight does Gojo, for the FIRST time, think he MIGHT lose, meaning he clearly disagrees with you here that Sukuna's DE would slam him. Who's more reliable, a six eyes user fighting Sukuna or a powerscaler who thinks I need to PROVE that panels are canon in the chapter...
He wanted a technique based on his slashes that's already shows he wanted to upgrade his CT. If he wanted to win why didn't he made Mahogara cut Gojo in half instead of made him cut his hand only and waited and copied that technique to himself?
There's no evidence the slash wasn't intended to be fatal. The reason it cut the arm could be from Gojo dodging given in the panel he's mid-dash to the side.
Shibuya domain and recent chapter domain looks somewhat similar (except Tornado part) & New domain doesn't have any new function as far as it was stated. Sukuna's Shibuya Domin was also placed above ground.
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That's just a range thing, something not relevant to the domain clash with Gojo.
 
Dogshit argument

Whoever else thinks or says this is also smoking fanfiction cognitive bias agenda
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Mf's nowadays too complacent after Sukuna barely succeeded in winning that they forgot he did this with a convenient technique he was planning to get from the very beginning to use against gojo 🤣 since he had no other arsenal to do that besides DE that failed. Da close quarter combat ain't work either 😂 Gojo always humbling him.
 
That seal is for cursed spirits, not cursed objects though. It wouldn't make sense for the breaking of the seal to interact with Yuji, since we saw Kenjaku affect those with cursed objects like him in completely separate instance.
Its for cursed objects as well.
Its why a bunch of people who he planted cursed objects in didn't transform until he used Idle Transfiguration to make their bodies suitable vessels and then broke the seals to allow them to incarnate.
 
Also its May 2024
Last year this month Gojo v Sukuna started and last year September it ended
How are we still discussing this
Because it's one of the most popular fights in the series and world wide? Still has many people making vids about it whether animation or not?
People still talk about goku vs frieza namek saga. what's up with that
 
Dogshit argument

Whoever else thinks or says this is also smoking fanfiction cognitive bias agenda
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Mf's nowadays too complacent after Sukuna barely succeeded in winning that they forgot he did this with a convenient technique he was planning to get from the very beginning to use against gojo 🤣 since he had no other arsenal to do that besides DE that failed. Da close quarter combat ain't work either 😂 Gojo always humbling him.
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I came back from my classes expecting some memes and playful banter


















Then I remembered what thread I was coming back to. Just like the title of the series essentially meaning sorcery battle that never ends, the discussion on whether or not shit was an asspull or whether or not Sukuna was trying will never end.
 
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