EldemadeDityjon
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No his output was on decline statement was made by Shoko who was watching the fight it's not confirmed from Gojo's end. We literally see Yuji getting amp against Sukuna with his first Black flash alone.
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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Sukuna's output got obliterated by Yuji's punches and his Black Flash chain
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Was that said?
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Okay, for one, yes it was. He had to use incantations to make up for lost output
For another, he says it literally right after
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It is stated before the big Black Flash that Sukuna's Black Flashes don't matter as long as Yuji keeps punching him
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Isnt it more like:
100
Then 120
Then 144
Then 172.8
Then 207.4
Then 248
Then 299
Then 358
Then 430
Then 516
Because if 8bfs were 960% then every bf is making him as twice as strong which doesnt make much sense
Im not good with this so I may be typing nonsense
EldemadeDityjon
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I think you can also read Gojo's words in a different manner. I'm just going to give some percentage-based explanation; don't take the percentages seriously.
Let's say Gojo was at 60% before hitting Black Flash; after that, he reached 70-80%. So his output is still low compared to his 100%. He may have been talking about it in that manner.
This is my understanding.
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I'm not gonna assume Gege remembers the 120% thing or that he thinks of repeated Black Flashes exactly like this but this makes the most sense mathematically
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What if the output thing is just because of CE mastery
Those who experience bf are said to have immesurable understanding of CE
Gojo and Sukuna received brain damage that ****** up their output
After some bfs, their understanding of CE is much higher, they manipulate energy better and which in return gives higher output, no stated numher for how mucu
Those who experience bf are said to have immesurable understanding of CE
Gojo and Sukuna received brain damage that ****** up their output
After some bfs, their understanding of CE is much higher, they manipulate energy better and which in return gives higher output, no stated numher for how mucu
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You mean the ^2.5, not the 120%
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Precisely. Yuji is now like 2.5^ 8x over.
EldemadeDityjon
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Yeah 8 BFs would amp 4.29981696x, not 9.6x
Also, assuming Yuji is Low 7-C from this, pretty sure an 8 BF Amp would give him like 7-C lol
Also, assuming Yuji is Low 7-C from this, pretty sure an 8 BF Amp would give him like 7-C lol
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The ^2.5 figure is the strike itself. 120% is the amp
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Nope he scales physically to his bf strikes now
Nullflowerblush
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Sooo, the Official Fanbook's—now named The Official Character Guide—English translation was released today, and it is definitely a book.
Nullflowerblush
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"2.5 times the power of a normal hit", btw.
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Since it's official, maybe Gege had something to do with that. He treated the ^2.5 figure like a joke after his editor told him it doesn't make sense without units
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yippeeee 8-A with Black Flash. Time to update the ap scaling yet again.
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Ngl I'd be fine with defaulting Black Flash to a 2.5x amp, especially because I'm fairly sure even the anime changed it to 2.5x rather than ^2.5
Nullflowerblush
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God-tier Black Flashes are 1.375 Megatons (Low 7-B), and Shibuya Incident High-tier Black Flashes are 137.5 Tons (8-A), looks like.
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And then just back scale that and we got Low 7-B Sukuna and Gojo.
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Uh, no. Sukuna and Gojo have the High 7-C+ value to scale to, then with Black Flash's 2.5x amp they become Low 7-B
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If you don't think ap, that's fine, but in reinforcement definitely. And Mahoraga tanked two black flashes so he definitely gets to be low 7-B, unless you think they just significantly dropped in stats in which case I can see.
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You can survive attacks stronger than you and still be inferior. And the thing with AP is that it creates a cycle. We backscale Gojo and Sukuna, and that makes their BF AP even stronger, oh but they can take those Black Flashes so clearly they should be even stronger normally, oh but BF is a 2.5x amp so BF should be stronger, rinse and repeat.
It just means a 2.5x jump isn't a one-shot level jump in JJK
It just means a 2.5x jump isn't a one-shot level jump in JJK
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But you are fine with Mahoraga being low7-b in dura?
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No, its not. Idk why people say that. The canon statement is ^2.5. Theres no reason to translate it to a multipler just because the canon doesn't make sense
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Late to the party are you?
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Me when not a reliabe translation and is contradicted by every other canon statement about the black flash
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its from the official english translated guidebook
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John Werry is also a official english translator
Nullflowerblush
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Oh, huh, you're right. "2・5乗" is "2.5th power".
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Personally think at least 10x is a fair lowball rather than shelving it all together, but not sure how sound that is in the context of the wiki
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"Although, like with Kaio-Ken and Char's Zaky, multiplying is easy to understand and sounds strong... I, Akutami, sought something more impactful and thought of exponents. Ten times two is 20, but ten squared would be 100! Using exponents is stronger than using multiplication!"
Gege basically thinks he is smart but he is actually dumb
In a good world we would accept the 10x as a lowend
Gege basically thinks he is smart but he is actually dumb
In a good world we would accept the 10x as a lowend
