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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

YukaSama4 said:
Sukuna mightve had 2 CTs, slashes are his original CT as a sorcerer and the fire is his curse nature or whatever Jogo/Mahito was talking about

On another side, the idea of HR giving better senses than the six eyes still feels a bit weird, Toji was in his prime when he saw kid Gojo and since then he realised he has to wear down the six eyes before fighting against it, but now Maki could see the slashes while Gojo couldnt?
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Any thoughts yall have on this?
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I mean improved senses was the second far less impressive part of the six eyes.

The near infinite reduction in CE use and enhanced CT usage was kinda the main issue

as for why gojo couldn't while maki can it seems to come down to the nature of dismantle, that thing does seem to be a pure CE blast that is slashing things but something more like gojo's CT use where he brings a concept into reality but of a fully different application in sukunas case, which means better CE preception wouldn't allow you to see them but being able to see air currents and shifts in the atmosphere would.
 
Also, with Yuta being confirmed to be capable of breaking his own barrier of his own will, and shifting coordinates, I’m now certain the only people who are no-diffing his domain are Gojo / Sukuna. Everyone else either loses, or it’s debatable (Kenjaku).
 
Milly_Rocking_Bandit said:
Also, with Yuta being confirmed to be capable of breaking his own barrier of his own will, and shifting coordinates, I’m now certain the only people who are no-diffing his domain are Gojo / Sukuna. Everyone else either loses, or it’s debatable (Kenjaku).
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I mean kenny definitly wins a domain fight V yuta since not only can he crush the barrier from the outside his sure hit should win out in the first place due to the whole "second best barrier user" thing, kenny's domain is more refined and his output should be around yuta levels so he wins out.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
The fire arrow is Sukuna's original technique but is inefficient and impractical (like Construction); through mastery of Cursed Energy and a Binding Vow, he managed to condense the fire arrow into the form of the slashing attacks, which "[function] like a high pressure water nozzle, forcing the power of Fire Arrow through a minimal path".
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This would be believable if we saw burn marks on people at least. I think the fire arrow is really just another ct. We already know from Kenjaku one can house several ct in their black box. Sukuna is doing the same thing, a theory I like is that the ct came from his brother who he absorbed in the womb and thats why he's got four eyes and that weird face thing on the right side.
 
YukaSama4 said:
Sukuna mightve had 2 CTs, slashes are his original CT as a sorcerer and the fire is his curse nature or whatever Jogo/Mahito was talking about

On another side, the idea of HR giving better senses than the six eyes still feels a bit weird, Toji was in his prime when he saw kid Gojo and since then he realised he has to wear down the six eyes before fighting against it, but now Maki could see the slashes while Gojo couldnt?
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Any thoughts yall have on this?
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Sir_sun_man said:
I mean improved senses was the second far less impressive part of the six eyes.

The near infinite reduction in CE use and enhanced CT usage was kinda the main issue

as for why gojo couldn't while maki can it seems to come down to the nature of dismantle, that thing does seem to be a pure CE blast that is slashing things but something more like gojo's CT use where he brings a concept into reality but of a fully different application in sukunas case, which means better CE preception wouldn't allow you to see them but being able to see air currents and shifts in the atmosphere would.
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Also, from Toji saying "Hey, I'm starting to get the hang of this...", he's either making a disrespectful taunt or his physical condition isn't at the level he was training in the Zenin household.

Plus, Maki, at this point, had that training w/the Sumo guy and whatever everyone's been doing w/the month and a half timeskip. This could be the peak of what 0 cursed energy HR user is capable of.
 
Sir_sun_man said:
I mean kenny definitly wins a domain fight V yuta since not only can he crush the barrier from the outside his sure hit should win out in the first place due to the whole "second best barrier user" thing, kenny's domain is more refined and his output should be around yuta levels so he wins out.
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He, for one, needs to activate the sure-hit through a hand-motion. Secondly, even Kenjaku admits a Domain clash against Yuki wouldn’t have led to a disappointing outcome, implying a form of relativity. Yuki is inferior to Sendai Yuta, which means he should be able to replicate those hypothetical results. Thirdly, assuming he imbues his sure-hit with JL, that puts the comparability in Yuta’s favor, as it’s meant to defeat cursed / evil things, and Kenjaku erects a totem of Cursed Spirits. Yuta, lastly, also has more CE, which is a factor in Domain clashes.
 
Milly_Rocking_Bandit said:
He, for one, needs to activate the sure-hit through a hand-motion. Secondly, even Kenjaku admits a Domain clash against Yuki wouldn’t have led to a disappointing outcome, implying a form of relativity. Yuki is inferior to Sendai Yuta, which means he should be able to replicate those hypothetical results. Thirdly, assuming he imbues his sure-hit with JL, that puts the comparability in Yuta’s favor, as it’s meant to defeat cursed / evil things, and Kenjaku erects a totem of Cursed Spirits. Yuta, lastly, also has more CE, which is a factor in Domain clashes.
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one is an unknown as we see kenny's domain rip away at the SD of Yuki without any type of hand movement.

Secondly the result not being as disappoining as yuki instantly losing her SD and getting flattened is not a high bar to cross.

Thridly the sure hit itself means jack diddly in a domain clash as sukunas sure hit was leagues weaker than gojo's yet they equaled out and nullified one another in the domain meaning that its all about that output when the domains have similar levels of refinement

As for CE thats only important if the clash goes on for a long period of time as the output will only start to decline after the CE amount starts to drop but in a clash between kenny and yuta that wouldn't happen as kenjaku is likely to win out the clash of domains quickly due to superior refinement and similar levels of output to yuta
 
Sir_sun_man said:
one is an unknown as we see kenny's domain rip away at the SD of Yuki without any type of hand movement.
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That’s due to the output of the barrier, not the actual technique. Yuki outright says this, and the same sentiment is reflected in Gojo vs Sukuna, the output of a Domain trumps SD, but Sukuna wasn’t literally slashing Gojo’s SD apart.


Sir_sun_man said:
Secondly the result not being as disappoining as yuki instantly losing her SD and getting flattened is not a high bar to cross.
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This is not what I meant. The entire reason Kenjaku expanded his Domain was due to thinking Yuki simply wasn’t confident in clashing, but then came to recognize that if she hadn’t been following Tengen’s plan, it wouldn’t be so unfortunate she ended that way.


Sir_sun_man said:
Thridly the sure hit itself means jack diddly in a domain clash as sukunas sure hit was leagues weaker than gojo's yet they equaled out and nullified one another in the domain meaning that its all about that output when the domains have similar levels of refinement
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How can you be leagues weaker, yet equal itself? That makes no sense. Two statements outright state that their sure-hit is equal inside the barrier, but Sukuna can strike the outside of it.


Sir_sun_man said:
As for CE thats only important if the clash goes on for a long period of time as the output will only start to decline after the CE amount starts to drop but in a clash between kenny and yuta that wouldn't happen as kenjaku is likely to win out the clash of domains quickly due to superior refinement and similar levels of output to yuta
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Doesn’t matter, because compatibility and CE is the key here. Kenjaku wins out in refinery, but that’s 1/3 categories. JL is a bad matchup against a cursed tower, and Yuta has more CE and can match output with Ishigori, so there isn’t any reason to assume he’s inferior to Kenjaku.
 
I'm not really interested in Yuta vs Kenny discussions but have to point out that there's no proof Yuki would've matched Kenny in a DE clash, Yuki used SD and was overwhelmed completely that's why Kenjaku said had you used ur domain, it might not have lead to the same pathetic end.
As it is right now, Kenjaku would be unbeatable in a DE clash unless he's against UV or MS


Edit: forgot to mention this but assuming Kenjaku would know how good Yuki's domain barrier is just silly since he didn't even know her CT, on the other hand Tengen believed a low output technique like SD used by Kenjaku would actually be enough to keep up with Yuki's domain and Yuki followed her plan because she also thought so, and guess what? That was before Tengen realises Kenjaku is skilled enough to cast a domain with an open barrier.
In a summary, Kenjaku would neg Yuki in a domain clash.
 
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Milly_Rocking_Bandit said:
That’s due to the output of the barrier, not the actual technique. Yuki outright says this, and the same sentiment is reflected in Gojo vs Sukuna, the output of a Domain trumps SD, but Sukuna wasn’t literally slashing Gojo’s SD apart.
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what do you think happens in the domain battle exactly? do you think the output of the barrier is not part of the clash? like what? My good fellow, domain output = sure hit output
Milly_Rocking_Bandit said:
This is not what I meant. The entire reason Kenjaku expanded his Domain was due to thinking Yuki simply wasn’t confident in clashing, but then came to recognize that if she hadn’t been following Tengen’s plan, it wouldn’t be so unfortunate she ended that way.
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then why bring it up? since ya know... it kinda doesn't help your point, the whole statement is kenny saying that she could've at least contested him for a bit in a clash it doesn't say she'd win or stalemate just that is would result in a better conlusion than the SD strategy which gives us exactly 0 comperisons between how it would go in the clash and how it would go if yuta and kenny clashed since ya know, we have absolutely no damned clue on who has a better domain between yuta and yuki.
Milly_Rocking_Bandit said:
How can you be leagues weaker, yet equal itself? That makes no sense. Two statements outright state that their sure-hit is equal inside the barrier, but Sukuna can strike the outside of it.
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The effect my man even gojo points it out
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The effect of the limtless sure hit aka info overload of the unlimited void is leagues greater than the slashes of malevolent shrine but their output is equal to one another meaning that the effects of the sure hit within the clash mean nothing if their outputs are similar or if the output of the weaker effect is worse meaning that yuta having jacobs ladder means nothing if his output is not greater and the output between yuta and kenny is an unknown, we know kenny's domain is far more refined meaning he wins the clash by defult (kinda similar to how sukuna v gojo clash went) and his output from the demonstrated feats should be around yuta levels (since he is capable of one tapping spacial grades on yuta's level with his sure hit)
Milly_Rocking_Bandit said:
Doesn’t matter, because compatibility and CE is the key here. Kenjaku wins out in refinery, but that’s 1/3 categories. JL is a bad matchup against a cursed tower, and Yuta has more CE and can match output with Ishigori, so there isn’t any reason to assume he’s inferior to Kenjaku.
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and there is no reason to assume that kenny is inferior to yuta (and matched ishigori's output is a hell of a take considering that while yuta was amping himself with awakened rika he still got dusted by ishigori in an output clash but thats neither here nor there (although I would like to bring up the fact that sukuna states that even after the power up of the 1 month time skip yuta's reinforcement is still below Ryu)) as for bad matchup, I mean where and why? we have gravity vs light nothing here is a bad match up for either one of them since the gravity kenny used can resist black holes which can bend light through gravity and light can't fully escape most gravitational forces due to gravity waves traveling at light speed kinda equaling the effects out with kenny having somewhat of an advantage.
I mean its not like kenny is using the actual concept of evil as his sure hit.... at least I think he isn't (flashbacks to concept manip through CE manip)
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
I'm just happy Yuta wasn't eaten ngl
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More happy to know that Yuta is playing some 4d chess by how he's actually let his DE to be destroyed just for an ambush from his allies
My man is going to have a Batman level of prep, and show how much little of faith he have with Pussygumi lmao
 
Excellence616 said:
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Gojo's Infinity should block most things that follow the laws of physics

Gojo's Infinity as described on this wiki is the following: By manifesting the naturally occurring infinity into reality,[16] Gojo is able to converge space as an infinite series of fractions, causing objects that approach him to slow down and never reach their target.[14] This idea of infinity...
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😭😭😭
Kisaragi_Megumi said:
More happy to know that Yuta is playing some 4d chess by how he's actually let his DE to be destroyed just for an ambush from his allies
My man is going to have a Batman level of prep, and show how much little of faith he have with Pussygumi lmao
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Logically speaking his domain would have broken nonetheless because of the injury he sustained. Most likely he broke the domain before World Slash got him. Also I wonder how Gojo is dead while Yuta is alive 😭
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
😭😭😭

Logically speaking his domain would have broken nonetheless because of the injury he sustained. Most likely he broke the domain before World Slash got him. Also I wonder how Gojo is dead while Yuta is alive 😭
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Lmao so the injuries for him is just an more excuse to his plan all along
As for Gojo is dead while Yuta isn't: Favorism
 
Damn they should give rights to TCB instead of John werry
  • This is cool they translated it as hulk of a body. Reading leaks wasn't giving that much vibe but this translation nailed it.
  • Also damn this panel looks great. I guess leaks was just low quality. From taking a look at TCB scans this is perfect.
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  • Also chapter drawings weren't that bad reading it in TCB site. Leaks were just bad quality it seems
Gege knows what he was cooking when he draw the last panel. These Sukuna silhouette just gives a crazy vibe.
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