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This could be me being nitpicky, but we don't see any of Yuji's clothes covered in burns or new hole/tatters. Then again, a Domain Amplification could have come into play. (There's also Gojo's shirt during his final showdown)
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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EldemadeDityjon
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This only applies to Gojo not for everyone.
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There is nothing suggesting it only applies to Gojo, but rather a general rule
EldemadeDityjon
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Gojo never stated it was general rule.
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He never stated it was exclusive to himself, he says he wasn't affected that mcuh by his own technique because it's his, making us think that if someone else is hit by their technique, they wouldn't get as hurt as their enemy.
EldemadeDityjon
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Inumaki gets affected by his own Technique. Hanami gets affected by his own technique. You need to show the scan where Gojo was speaking in general POV. Yuji who has Sukuna cursed energy still gets damages from his slashes never once Sukuna mentioned he was getting less damage because of same CE.
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No I don't need to show you nothing, you just need to read that Gojo panel again. Inumaki and Hamai weren't affected as much as their enemies when they used their technique against them, and Yuji having a bit of Sukuna's energy doesn't make him resistant to Sukuna's CT at all because it has nothing to do with that Gojo statement.
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Pretty sure Inumaki just gets clipped by the extreme stamina use and strain of Cursed Speech
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Yeah I don't ever recall Inumaki getting hit with his own CT, I only remember the effects of using it against powerful enemies. But I think he meant the fact that he's also affected by his CT, that's why his vocabulary is limited
EldemadeDityjon
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Burden of proof I guess you just don't have the scan to prove it's a general rule.
"Maybe" dude wasn't even sure why he got less damage. Beside he never once implied or stated it's same for all of them.
Maki literally got less damage than Hanami what you mean Hanami has less damage than her enemies?
Yuji body turned into Cursed Object like Sukuna and has his CE. It didn't say he only has small big. Gojo himself mentioned Sukunas techniques are gonna be etched to Yuji's body. Sukuna clearly complements Yuji durability not that he was talking about taking less damage because of Same CE.
EldemadeDityjon
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To be fair, Gojo says "maybe"
It seems uncommon in universe that people get hit by their own techniques
It seems uncommon in universe that people get hit by their own techniques
Arkenis
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How does Ryu have more combat experience? We know zero of his past fights.
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I took the vocab thing as Inumaki avoiding any accidental curses that could seriously hurt or even kill someone. As far as I know, he can't turn Cursed Speech off, so he's gotta be careful.
Based on the panel, Gojo isn't a 100% certain. "It's just a Theory" given what happened and the idea that you could/would develop some resistance to your own power; maybe you need to actively work on developing some resistance?
Also, that was Yuta's copy of their techniques; we still have very little info on how Copy works. Just because it works nearly the same doesn't mean it is. It could also be that the CE needs to be exactly the same. Heck, maybe Ryu's reinforcement/durability is just trash compared to the Blast's output.
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Both of those scans are attack reflection against Granite Blast tho
That was his own attack
That was his own attack
EldemadeDityjon
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Same era as Kashimo. Stated to be more tougher than current generation. (I'm not including Special grades btw)
Killing each other was a common thing during that era as we seen in Kashimo flashbacks. Ryu also mentioned he fought worthy opponents during his era.
I would go with the simplest assumption of Ryu fought his level of opponents whose power and skills matched him has experience from that.
We know little about CE giving less damage to users when Ryu & others never once mentioned or stated anything regarding that. I would say Gojo just lacks experience so he was making hypothetical claims. Or only his CE doesn't affects him much or you can say Gojo hit 4 BF and his sts kinda increased so his damage was less than Sukuna who was worn out and who didn't replenished. Taking Gojo's half baked Guess doesn't make sense.
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EldemadeDityjon
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There is a fan theory about Sukuna and Yuji having the same CE, suggesting that Yuji would receive less damage. However, canonically, Gege has never mentioned Yuji getting less damage due to the same CE. Despite this, Gege did mention that Yuji is currently soaked in Sukuna's CE. Until Gege provides a direct statement about CE affecting users less, it's better to assume it doesn't, rather than giving more importance to Gojo's half-baked guess.
Arkenis
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This doesn't tell us he has more experience. Them being tougher means nothing, killing randoms means nothing, fighting worthy opponents does not equal he has more experience than Gojo.
Gojo's the guy who was put into an era that had to become stronger than the previous one simply due to his birth, meaning he grew in a world harder than say Naobito's era. And then Gojo goes on to fight and surpass Toji in skill. He ends up fighting curses like Jogo and Hanami, both who would also have more experience than Ryu who likely only lived for 30+ years.
This just isn't the same type of experience at all. You're tryna scale Ryu above Gojo in skill and Ryu struggled against and got tricked by Yuta, the same person who's below Gojo
Giannysmag
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I started a war lmao
EldemadeDityjon
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I think you misunderstood. I'm not talking about skills as in fighting techniques instead of cursed energy knowledge in Combat. I specifically mentioned Sorcerery skills..
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Ryu's case doesn't necessarily mean he wasn't protected against his own attack
Also me personally there's inherently a lot of merit in the word of the guy who can perceive and control Cursed Energy at an atomic level lol
Also me personally there's inherently a lot of merit in the word of the guy who can perceive and control Cursed Energy at an atomic level lol
EldemadeDityjon
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I was playing Valorant and replying lmao
Arkenis
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Why would their combat in fights where they utilize sorcery not factor in overall? And if we're talking about that, Gojo's the same guy who can do several barrier techniques and has a barrier that can match barrier-less domains, meanwhile Ryu does not, hell Ryu's the same guy who calls regenerating an arm a big feat, he's also the same guy who we don't know if he's ever hit a black flash yet Gojo has and we know Black Flashers have a superior understanding of curse energy.
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Malevolent Shrine should've done more work so Gojo could be a flasher fr
EldemadeDityjon
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Ryu has highest output why would he was satisfied if his opponents were weaker than him and call them worthy because of their powers? It would make sense his opponents fought with skills instead of power. Matching Ryu's power in a straight up match is one hit kill. We literally see how it went out against Yuta and Rika. Ryus own technique ducked him not any power based shit from Yuta or Rika.
Kusakabe also knows about techniques but does he knows how to use them? What you are saying is really bad example. Gojo using techniques means he knows more about CE?
Kusakabe also states that despite him having knowledge about it. Having knowledge doens't mean anyone can do it. Even Gojo obtained RCT after Toji almost killed him. RCT isn't some cheap thing to get out of nowhere.
Only thing I can agree with you is this. We don't know if Ryu had BF or not. But narratively only one who can control his CE output as same as his CT is Ryu only that also comes to play.
EldemadeDityjon
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Honestly someone should get the raws and translate this. TCB states CE pool which makes sense compared to his pool replenishing with 4BF.
Arkenis
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Then they're as skilled as Ryu is, which is just as skilled as Yuta is. There's nothing more to them being worthy here.
Its the difference between knowing and doing, Gojo knows how to do it all, Kusakabe just knows about the ct. Also all the knowledge Kusakabe has shown us in combat would point to him also being more experienced than Ryu in sorcery.
This proves my point then, Gojo can do RCT in ways no one has ever seen and do it off a whim at that.
How is that more impressive than everything Gojo's done? And if you agree with this then you agree Gojo's understanding of sorcery is superior than Ryu's
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Well that makes no sense cuz Sukuna has more Cursed Energy than Yuta, who has more than GojoHonestly someone should get the raws and translate this. TCB states CE pool which makes sense compared to his pool replenishing with 4BF.
EldemadeDityjon
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I mean Yuta is the same guy who knows about what Gojo was doing in battle against Sukuna and Gojo in current Arc if you EQ yuta to Ryu then you are coming back to where Ryus skills matched Gojo or atleast knowledge.
We are talking about knowledge bro my point is doing and knowing has nothing to with having knowledge on things.
Gojo is the same guy who has RCT for 14 years and couldn't learn how to heal others and mocked by Yaga that his skills are nowhere near Shoko.
Gojo can't do RCT in many ways he learned it due to life or death situation which Higuruma also did despite having less experience he has RCT.
Gojos skills are overall superior to Ryu but I don't agree regarding Sorcerery knowledge. My whole point is Ryu getting hit by his attacks and never implied about CE giving less damage to the user. He should have the knowledge on that from his many battles.
Also you mentioned Hanami and Jogo where Hanami got hit by his technique and we still didn't get any statement for his technique giving him less damage or implying something regarding CE giving him less damage. Gojo Fighting Hanami and Jogo isn't backing up the point of Gojos "may be" half baked statement.
EldemadeDityjon
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Sukuna being exhausted is ignored as usual. Sometimes I wonder if you do this for the sake of humour.
EldemadeDityjon
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LMAO.
Arkenis
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I just check the raw and he does say something along the lines of "After all its my own magical power... I wonder if it's that big"
Giannysmag
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Sukuna gonna make super strong cleave and extend his range to the entire multiverse so he can attack Obito in the Kamui dimension
Giannysmag
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Nah he can hang with a lot of them 1v1 but he is getting folded against all of them
EldemadeDityjon
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It makes sense that Gojo at that point having more CE than Meguna as he was exhausted by the fight and his output was less. Gojo replenished his CE with BF.
