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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Don't think anyone should physically scale to the Black Hole obviously
But Yuki should get up to 5-A with Bombaye's Maximum likely far higher (shit was suppressed, wild we could've gotten Tier 4 JJK )
Would Tengen's barrier even scale slightly?
Funny enough 5-A JJK can also be gotten from Black Flash+Low 7-B scaling
 
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Environmental Destruction at most, this isn't an AP feat. It's hax related, made not by uterlising or generating Tier 5 levels of energy, but by increasing her mass to such a degree that the requirements density for a black hole's creation is met. With the way her Cursed Technique functions not being applicable for the mass it adds to be a Attack Potency applicable feat.
 
Tengen and Kenjaku held the black hole tho.

Tonight I can calculate the feat. Although there will probably be 3 people who have already calculated lol
 
Tengen and Kenjaku held the black hole tho.

Tonight I can calculate the feat. Although there will probably be 3 people who have already calculated lol
Kenjaku escaped the black hole using his anti-gravity Cursed Technique to prevent himself from being pulled in by the black hole's gravitational pull, this is not an AP feat. Tengan used his domain (and Yuki's will) to keep the black hole isolated from the outside world and growing big enough to swallow the entire Earth, this is not an AP feat. Neither of them created, destroyed, or significantly manipulated the black hole in a way that translates to Attack Potency.
 
Kenjaku escaped the black hole using his anti-gravity Cursed Technique to prevent himself from being pulled in by the black hole's gravitational pull, this is not an AP feat. Tengan used his domain (and Yuki's will) to keep the black hole isolated from the outside world and growing big enough to swallow the entire Earth, this is not an AP feat. Neither of them created, destroyed, or significantly manipulated the black hole in a way that translates to Attack Potency.
what you mean?, kenjaku blatantly said if self destruction yuki can destroy the whole world, thanks to tengen barrier and yuki will for holding back the black hole
 
Well we can have tier 5 maybe tier 4 via Tengen's Barriers? Should wait for officials to come though, some of the wording seems inaccurate. Kenjaku clearly gets like what Stellar lifting strength via the gravity? or the gravity itself has stellar mass. Yuki obviously doesn't scale and neither does Tengen physically.
 
what you mean?, kenjaku blatantly said if self destruction yuki can destroy the whole world, thanks to tengen barrier and yuki will for holding back the black hole
Yes, but that would be through environmental destruction as it grows to suck the whole Earth inside. Tengen's barrier was not blocking Tier 5 levels of force, it was isolating a phenomenon that would have drawn the planet into it through it's gravitational pull, and even then what Tengen was isolating was a black hole that was being restrained by Yuki's will to an unknown extent.

This is not a feat that can be used to calculate Attack Potency or Durability. It's a feat of hax being used to generate the requirements of an Environmental Destruction that was restrained by wilpower and isolated from expanding and causing greater destruction.


i will point out that kenjaku might not get lifting strength because he used anti-gravity which negates gravitys effect on him
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He definitely won't. This is a clear case of him just outright ignoring gravity instead of fighting against it through Lifting Strength.
 
It's anti gravity no? He'd have to be putting the same output to resist the gravity pulling him in. Unless anti gravity just works on any level of gravitational pull
 
It's anti gravity no? He'd have to be putting the same output to resist the gravity pulling him in. Unless anti gravity just works on any level of gravitational pull
Kenjaku also stated he needed to drastically increase the Output of the Technique to even have the chance he did at surviving
 
It's anti gravity no? He'd have to be putting the same output to resist the gravity pulling him in. Unless anti gravity just works on any level of gravitational pull
That's what anti-gravity is. It's not a force that opposes gravity, it's the absence of gravity,
 
Kenjaku also stated he needed to drastically increase the Output of the Technique to even have the chance he did at surviving
No, he said he had raise the techniques lapse limit of it's activation time and unsteady output. Not raise it's output.
 
No, he said he had raise the techniques lapse limit of it's activation time and unsteady output. Not raise it's output.
Lapse is CE Output G, have you met Gojo's Blue Lapse?
It's amplifying a CT by Increasing the amount of CE put into it
Increasing the CE put into the neutral Limitless turns it into Blue
 
The anti-gravity is the base ct but the gravity field is the reversal, he amped the reversal not the regular ct from what I'm reading. So I guess if anti-gravity does just ignore the pull would this be useable on any pull aka any lifting class?
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The anti-gravity is the base ct but the gravity field is the reversal, he amped the reversal not the regular ct from what I'm reading.
Nah, he moreso implied he raised The Regular techniques parameters.

Tengen thought him using Anti Gravity was Reversal (Not Reversal).

Meaning he actually just amped the Base Technique
 
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You can calculate the energy for any radius you input, convert the mass to "Earths" and multiply the number by 59.44 Zettatons to get the Attack Potency

For example, for a 100m radius, the energy needed would be equivalent to the mass of 11274 Earths, which is roughly 670 Yottatons (5-A).
 

You can calculate the energy for any radius you input, convert the mass to "Earths" and multiply the number by 59.44 Zettatons to get the Attack Potency

For example, for a 100m radius, the energy needed would be equivalent to the mass of 11274 Earths, which is roughly 670 Yottatons (5-A).
will definitely be used later thx
 
Only Gojo scales above it via being stronger then literally everyone in the Verse meaning he is above anything anyone can do
 
Only Gojo scales above it via being stronger then literally everyone in the Verse meaning he is above anything anyone can do
even this by itself im not sure I agree with

if you wanted to scale characters, perhaps you could argue tengen's barriers cancelled it out, and yuki previously with star rage managed to punch a hole through the same barrier

gojo > yuki's regular output

not the best argument per se
 
Ch. 205 shows that conceptual manipulation is useless against Star Rage. The black hole is just an extension of her technique.
The 205 feat can be interpreted in a couple of ways, and neither would pose a problem to anti-gravity preventing scaling:
  1. The Cursed Spirit can only conceptually nullify a limited amount of force (which is what I believe is implied).
  2. Yuki's Cursed Energy overpowered the Cursed Spirit's conceptual manipulation. It wasn't a direct concept vs concept battle; Yuki only increased the mass of her Shikigami without impacting its speed.

Assuming it is 2, we can say that Kenjaku's conceptual manipulation is powerful enough that Yuki couldn't nullify it with her Cursed Energy. Though the gravity from the black hole doesn't necessarily involve Cursed Energy to begin with.


Only Gojo scales above it via being stronger then literally everyone in the Verse meaning he is above anything anyone can do
I mean did anyone know about Yuki's suicide attack trump card?
It is not something she would consider using without Tengen being there to contain it with a barrier.
 
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