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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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We seeing this?
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We probably switch to the Past and see Yuji's colony
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Environmental Destruction at most, this isn't an AP feat. It's hax related, made not by uterlising or generating Tier 5 levels of energy, but by increasing her mass to such a degree that the requirements density for a black hole's creation is met. With the way her Cursed Technique functions not being applicable for the mass it adds to be a Attack Potency applicable feat.We seeing this?
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Tengen and Kenjaku held the black hole tho.
Tonight I can calculate the feat. Although there will probably be 3 people who have already calculated lol
Tonight I can calculate the feat. Although there will probably be 3 people who have already calculated lol
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Kenjaku escaped the black hole using his anti-gravity Cursed Technique to prevent himself from being pulled in by the black hole's gravitational pull, this is not an AP feat. Tengan used his domain (and Yuki's will) to keep the black hole isolated from the outside world and growing big enough to swallow the entire Earth, this is not an AP feat. Neither of them created, destroyed, or significantly manipulated the black hole in a way that translates to Attack Potency.
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Man this is probably the moment which they need Gojo the most
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what you mean?, kenjaku blatantly said if self destruction yuki can destroy the whole world, thanks to tengen barrier and yuki will for holding back the black hole
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Well we can have tier 5 maybe tier 4 via Tengen's Barriers? Should wait for officials to come though, some of the wording seems inaccurate. Kenjaku clearly gets like what Stellar lifting strength via the gravity? or the gravity itself has stellar mass. Yuki obviously doesn't scale and neither does Tengen physically.
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i will point out that kenjaku might not get lifting strength because he used anti-gravity which negates gravitys effect on him
en.m.wikipedia.org
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Anti-gravity - Wikipedia
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Yes, but that would be through environmental destruction as it grows to suck the whole Earth inside. Tengen's barrier was not blocking Tier 5 levels of force, it was isolating a phenomenon that would have drawn the planet into it through it's gravitational pull, and even then what Tengen was isolating was a black hole that was being restrained by Yuki's will to an unknown extent.
This is not a feat that can be used to calculate Attack Potency or Durability. It's a feat of hax being used to generate the requirements of an Environmental Destruction that was restrained by wilpower and isolated from expanding and causing greater destruction.
He definitely won't. This is a clear case of him just outright ignoring gravity instead of fighting against it through Lifting Strength.i will point out that kenjaku might not get lifting strength because he used anti-gravity which negates gravitys effect on him
/SPOILER]Anti-gravity - Wikipedia
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Kenjaku also stated he needed to drastically increase the Output of the Technique to even have the chance he did at surviving
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That's what anti-gravity is. It's not a force that opposes gravity, it's the absence of gravity,
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No, he said he had raise the techniques lapse limit of it's activation time and unsteady output. Not raise it's output.
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lapse is an increase in ce so it would be raising it's output.
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Lapse is CE Output G, have you met Gojo's Blue Lapse?
It's amplifying a CT by Increasing the amount of CE put into it
Increasing the CE put into the neutral Limitless turns it into Blue
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The anti-gravity is the base ct but the gravity field is the reversal, he amped the reversal not the regular ct from what I'm reading. So I guess if anti-gravity does just ignore the pull would this be useable on any pull aka any lifting class?
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Nah, he moreso implied he raised The Regular techniques parameters.
Tengen thought him using Anti Gravity was Reversal (Not Reversal).
Meaning he actually just amped the Base Technique
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a black hole of the size we saw would still be 5b
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It's not really about the level its at, just if anyone can scale to it
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Considering the size of the event horizon is about 100meters(a friend did a rough calc using some of the surrounding building dimensions)
It's almost 700 Yottatons(5-A)
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Arkenis
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could u send?
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Schwarzschild Radius Calculator
Calculate the gravitational acceleration at the event horizon of a black hole of a given mass using the Schwarzschild radius calculator.
www.omnicalculator.com
You can calculate the energy for any radius you input, convert the mass to "Earths" and multiply the number by 59.44 Zettatons to get the Attack Potency
For example, for a 100m radius, the energy needed would be equivalent to the mass of 11274 Earths, which is roughly 670 Yottatons (5-A).
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will definitely be used later thxSchwarzschild Radius Calculator
Calculate the gravitational acceleration at the event horizon of a black hole of a given mass using the Schwarzschild radius calculator.
You can calculate the energy for any radius you input, convert the mass to "Earths" and multiply the number by 59.44 Zettatons to get the Attack Potency
For example, for a 100m radius, the energy needed would be equivalent to the mass of 11274 Earths, which is roughly 670 Yottatons (5-A).
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he doesnt tank it though
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JJK hate is real
. mfs only swarm JJK to antagonize it, that speed downgrade time was crazy But if it's upgrade times they fricking vanish
Can you even calculate a Black Holes mass that way?
Someone calced Kenjaku tanking the black hole, wanted to get thoughts
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By site standards we can't use MC^2
Someone calced Kenjaku tanking the black hole, wanted to get thoughts
Just use this
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even this by itself im not sure I agree with
if you wanted to scale characters, perhaps you could argue tengen's barriers cancelled it out, and yuki previously with star rage managed to punch a hole through the same barrier
gojo > yuki's regular output
not the best argument per se
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The 205 feat can be interpreted in a couple of ways, and neither would pose a problem to anti-gravity preventing scaling:
- The Cursed Spirit can only conceptually nullify a limited amount of force (which is what I believe is implied).
- Yuki's Cursed Energy overpowered the Cursed Spirit's conceptual manipulation. It wasn't a direct concept vs concept battle; Yuki only increased the mass of her Shikigami without impacting its speed.
Assuming it is 2, we can say that Kenjaku's conceptual manipulation is powerful enough that Yuki couldn't nullify it with her Cursed Energy. Though the gravity from the black hole doesn't necessarily involve Cursed Energy to begin with.
I mean did anyone know about Yuki's suicide attack trump card?
It is not something she would consider using without Tengen being there to contain it with a barrier.
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As I said, I agree with the fact that nobody scales. It is for now very inconsistent and nothing in the verse is remotely close to that level of energy
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Tengen's barrier sorta scales. There will prob be more feats or statements on this level as the story progresses
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You're a bit late on that one. People have had already put Gojo and universal before jjk had 100 chapters.
