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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Discussion Thread IV: Diamond is Unbreakable

Baken384 said:
These dudes probably think star platinum is wall level lmao
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R/CharacterRant thinks that Jojo is street level for the top tiers, and possibly wall level
Speed for the top tiers like SP? Mach level. 💀💀
They hate Jojo being lightspeed there so much. they literally have a grudge 😭 Just search up these reddit threads, you'll be astounded to see how many there are from r/CharacterRant
"jojo light speed debunked!! ftl debunked!! mftl debunked!"
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:
R/CharacterRant thinks that Jojo is street level for the top tiers, and possibly wall level
Speed for the top tiers like SP? Mach level. 💀💀
They hate Jojo being lightspeed there so much. they literally have a grudge 😭 Just search up these reddit threads, you'll be astounded to see how many there are from r/CharacterRant
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Can you link, I want a laugh
 
TheGunsFinalWrath said:




(this one isnt jojo related one, but it still popped up when I searched for this: "Jojo isnt light speed" lol. Yes, r/characterrant says light speed is BS)
https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterR...jos_bizarre_adventure_i_dont_care_about_your/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/icovdq/if_you_can_see_it_approach_its_not_moving_at/ (This one is funny: "Even the king of wanks, VS Battles Wiki," just click on the link to read further)
https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterR...at_are_the_arguing_points_against_ftl_stands/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRant/comments/rt1zfk/rebunking_jjba_ftl_feats/ LOL they made a new one.. well, two months ago that is, but still new.
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Can you debunk their claims?
 
Contradict what, the feats where they move FTL, deflect beams of light, avoid lasers or the several characters stated to surpass lightspeed and the characters who are flatout stated to surpass them? Damn what a contradiction that the character flat out stated to be FTL in speed has FTL feats and scaling.
Oh and let's not forget that some of the arguments there have been explicitly shot down like The Sun's beams are 100% legit lasers so them doing mental gymnastics to justify how they aren't means **** all.
Don't waste my time with this.
 
Chariot190 said:
Contradict what, the feats where they move FTL, deflect beams of light, avoid lasers or the several characters stated to surpass lightspeed and the characters who are flatout stated to surpass them? Damn what a contradiction that the character flat out stated to be FTL in speed has FTL feats and scaling.
Oh and let's not forget that some of the arguments there have been explicitly shot down like The Sun's beams are 100% legit lasers so them doing mental gymnastics to justify how they aren't means **** all.
Don't waste my time with this.
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I agree with you, but their reasoning is following
FTL is only mentioned in the first scan shown, and is only vaguely alluded to at best in the second one. And yes, these are the only Stat Pages for Star Platinum, outside of textless ones from the anime and the JOJO-A-GO!GO! art book. So the only two stat pages that matter aren't necessarily fully consistent with each other.

Lastly, and most importantly, stat pages are a form of Word of God, which we frequently ignore when it contradicts what's shown in series. FTL Star Platinum introduces so many scaling issues to the series, like why Josuke's Crazy Diamond is around 300 kp/h+ when it's on par with Star Platinum, or how stands that are literally just guns with bullet control like Manhattan Transfer or Emperor are still effective in any manner. This problem worsens if you also try to accept the stats themselves as valid WoG comparisons between stands, as then any stand with an A in speed should be relativistic at minimum.

TL;DR Word of God needs to be handled delicately, and should be ignored in this specific scenario
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Seventy, gonna be blunt here, drop it.

Their reasoning, as if I haven't already ******* read it, is actual dogshit, it's ******* excuses, twisting what actually happened, straight up ignoring shit, or talking without having all the info on hand. It's ******* dumb, a waste of time, and I'm not doing it with you or them.

Like what, you want me to spend the next five hours of my time picking apart every ******* word they posted to explain why they're dumb as shit? yeah I could, but you're insane if you think I'm going to waste my time with that.
 
Chariot190 said:
Seventy, gonna be blunt here, drop it.

Their reasoning, as if I haven't already ******* read it, is actual dogshit, it's ******* excuses, twisting what actually happened, straight up ignoring shit, or talking without having all the info on hand. It's ******* dumb, a waste of time, and I'm not doing it with you or them.

Like what, you want me to spend the next five hours of my time picking apart every ******* word they posted to explain why they're dumb as shit? yeah I could, but you're insane if you think I'm going to waste my time with that.
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Ok
 
First of all, why didn't he just dodge by moving his head? Secondly, outliers exist. For one thing, Kars has no reason to tank this if he can react to and dodge at FTL speeds.
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Wow he got hit by the bullets, ignore the fact he basically let it happen and he literally turns around and proceeds to bisect every single bullet in half with a deadpan expression and calls Stroheim a bitch.

It's all stupid shit like that, or wow "Ger's stats actually None", yeah cool, ignore the context on why it's None (GoGo explicitly explains why, it Exceeds the Stand parameters as a whole so he can't be rated anything, he has no Ratings because he's to high for them).

And let's not even bring up they actually brought up 300kmph CD, ignoring Josuke says he never actually tested it so he doesn't actually know in that same sentence, his literal next feat is casually plucking a bullet out of the air at pointblank (needless to say, bullets over 300kmph), and that's ignoring CD's stated to barely surpass lightspeed at his best. But yeah, ignore that.

Goddamn it now I'm actually mad.
 
Character Rants can go from Feats over Statements to Statements over Feats on a whim if it suits their argument.
 
No, joseph performs his feat toward the end of the training and nobody scales to Kars at all at that point.

The only thing Jonathan has is that in the original japanese text, Dio's SRSE he does at the castle is likened to a laserbeam, but unlike those dumbasses who thinks shit like The Sun's lasers don't count despite being literally beams of light that melt things via heat, come from a sun's photosphere, move in straight lines, reflect off things, called or likened to lasers a dozen times and literally called LIGHT-RAYS for it's official name, this is an ACTUAL case of something being likened to a laser not being close to enough to grant it lightspeed.
 
Chariot190 said:
Wow he got hit by the bullets, ignore the fact he basically let it happen and he literally turns around and proceeds to bisect every single bullet in half with a deadpan expression and calls Stroheim a bitch.

It's all stupid shit like that, or wow "Ger's stats actually None", yeah cool, ignore the context on why it's None (GoGo explicitly explains why, it Exceeds the Stand parameters as a whole so he can't be rated anything, he has no Ratings because he's to high for them).

And let's not even bring up they actually brought up 300kmph CD, ignoring Josuke says he never actually tested it so he doesn't actually know in that same sentence, his literal next feat is casually plucking a bullet out of the air at pointblank (needless to say, bullets over 300kmph), and that's ignoring CD's stated to barely surpass lightspeed at his best. But yeah, ignore that.

Goddamn it now I'm actually mad.
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There, its now a "hello" (I removed the links in short)
I deleted it. Sorry Chariot. I was away.
 
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The whole point of ts is to take place within 0 seconds, so that’s obviously gonna fall under time erases 10
 
RedGX said:
By the way, Jobin's profile was added a few days ago, is it really accurate?
Does Speed King have absolutely no feats?
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It's inaccurate yeah, trying to scale him to rel because Joushu went "oh ****" is kinda bad practice, especially when Joushu reacted to it and was going oh **** not because of speed, but because his big bro just ******* threw a punch at him and told them all to step up or or step the **** down. Given he idolizes Joubin.

AP wise, Speed King's best feat is crushing a tin can so like. Featwise I'm stronger than him, needless to say he has **** all and he's best as unknown.
 
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