JJ Kars fights a Rat.

[manu_zarri]

Novel Kars fights base Archie Sonic, this shouldn't be a stomp (if you want me to explain, I willl explain), If this is a stomp then im going to change characthers

• Speed Equal
• Archie Sonic Base used (Sonic have one chaos emerald)
• Novel Kars
• Distance: 5m

Cars:

Maurice:

Inconclusive:

 

[manu_zarri]

Explanation why it isn't a stomp:

Kars have type 8 immortality and countless minds and souls, so it's pretty impossible kill him, also he dosen't show D4C in characther but it's pretty passive here. also BtD would active if you kill kars. and Kars have some way to incaps

Sonic have definitely some wincons so
afterall a match like that got added on archie sonic profile

 

[manu_zarri]

bump (ik that 12 hours didn't still passed. but i don't think it works from the theard, i just knew for the messages)

 

[ElixirBlue]

How good is Kars’ resistance to Fate Manipulation, first off?

 

[Bernkastelll]

How good is Kars’ resistance to Fate Manipulation, first off?

iirc, Low 1-C, he could have the chance to adapt to Beyond, unless Beyond is not rated as Low 1-C, since, he doesnt have a profile

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

How good is Kars’ resistance to Fate Manipulation, first off?

3D or 4D

 

[ElixirBlue]

Sonic's Fate Manipulation bypassed Low 1-C(5D might be 6D in the far future), no diff. What is Beyond?

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

iirc, Low 1-C, he could have the chance to adapt to Beyond, unless Beyond is not rated as Low 1-C, since, he doesnt have a profile

Beyond isn't accepted as low 1-C

 

[Bernkastelll]

Sonic's Fate Manipulation bypassed Low 1-C, no diff. What is Beyond?

Beyond

A Beyond (ビヨンド, Biyondo) is a metafictional ability that extends beyond time and space. Believing in their Beyond allows an individual to control their destiny. It is a power unique to the light novel JORGE JOESTAR, based on the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series.

jojowiki.com

 

[Bernkastelll]

Beyond isn't accepted as low 1-C

There had thread to it? because Beyond see like a 2-A multiverse as fiction

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

Kars' fate hax resistance currently doesn't scale to Beyond, it scales to Killer Queen

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

There had thread to it? because Beyond see like a 2-A multiverse as fiction

It isn't accepted as Low 1-C, even then, it's just Fate Manip that can be bypassed by incap

 

[Bernkastelll]

even then, it's just Fate Manip that can be bypassed by incap

Elixir asked the resistance, I answered, its not relevant if it can be bypassed by incap

 

[manu_zarri]

How good is Kars’ resistance to Fate Manipulation, first off?

for now, bad. at peak it's 4D for btd, you can agrue to 5D for beyond but..

Beyond isn't accepted as Low 1-C, and apparently for now it isn't important

damm, if only we had both Acausality type 4 NEP Bubbles and Beyond fate hax. perfect counted for sonic fate hax

btw, Sonic fate hax just prevent him from dying and can't kill kars due to 2-A immortality and for now base Sonic lacks of range

 

[manu_zarri]

Now tell me, what can base archie sonic do against sleep manipulation?

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

btw, Sonic fate hax just prevent him from dying and can't kill kars due to 2-A immortality and for now base Sonic lacks of range

Cough Conceptual EE Cough

 

[Bernkastelll]

for now, bad. at peak it's 4D for btd, you can agrue to 5D for beyond but..

Beyond isn't accepted as Low 1-C, and apparently for now it isn't important

damm, if only we had both Acausality type 4 NEP Bubbles and Beyond fate hax. perfect counted for sonic fate hax

Sonic fate hax works on acausality type 4

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

Now tell me, what can base archie sonic do against sleep manipulation?

How likely will Kars do it?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Cough Conceptual EE Cough

Does Base Sonic even has it?

 

[manu_zarri]

Sonic fate hax works on acausality type 4

Yes and Beyond fate hax and plot hax rules on the story, and the story has showed Soap Bubbles thing. that currently isn't on the wiki because we need WoU arc reach his ending

How likely will Kars do it?

Disc can also make people sleep, and kars manipulate their dreams

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

Does Base Sonic even has it?

Chaos Emeralds are standard equipment

 

[manu_zarri]

Chaos Emeralds are standard equipment

going to restrict that

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

Yes and Beyond fate hax and plot hax rules on the story, and the story has showed Soap Bubbles thing. that currently isn't on the wiki because we need WoU arc reach his ending

Pretty sure Jorge Joestar came out before Jojolien

 

[Bernkastelll]

Chaos Emeralds are standard equipment

He can use the chaos esmerald to conceptually destroy something without using Super Sonic form?

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

He can use the chaos esmerald to conceptually destroy something without using Super Sonic form?

Yup, it's literally a thing the emeralds can do by themselves

 

[manu_zarri]

Pretty sure Jorge Joestar came out before Jojolien

Jojolion*? I meant, if for that we shouldn't neither scale GER acausality negation to that. but don't worry, JJ is on the famous JoJoveller, during jojolion.
But whatever, it isn't currently on profiles

 

[Ned_the_outer_god]

WoU doesn't even have a profile

 

[manu_zarri]

Does Sonic use chaos emeralds in-character in comics? like, the first move.

btw, if it is I'm going to restrict that, because already Kars here dosen't use MiHur. would be better not have Low 1-C stuff here expect for hax

WoU doesn't even have a profile

Ye.. that's why i said for now.

 

[ElixirBlue]

Disc can also make people sleep, and kars manipulate their dreams

How likely will Kars do sleep hax tho?

 

[manu_zarri]

bump

 

[Livinmeme]

pretty sure that beyonder is 5-D just because it doesnt have a profile doesnt mean that he is 5-D

 

[manu_zarri]

pretty sure that beyonder is 5-D just because it doesnt have a profile doesnt mean that he is 5-D

??

I don't understand what are you trying to say.

 

[OnsokunoSonic]

I'm pretty sure that Sonic can use his 5D Time Stop and do a L1-C Power Null.

 

[manu_zarri]

I'm pretty sure that Sonic can use his 5D Time Stop and do a L1-C Power Null.

Yes and how they are usefull?

 

[OnsokunoSonic]

Incap Kars probably?

 

[manu_zarri]

Incap Kars probably?

I meant, incap is like sleep hax, BFR etc...
Like Time Stop isn't an incap i guess, Kars is still there

 

[OnsokunoSonic]

Well he can Time Stop and power null him via Rings

 

[manu_zarri]

Well he can Time Stop and power null him via Rings

1) Rings got restricted
2) Power Null what exactly? he did nothing

 

[OnsokunoSonic]

1. What do you mean by restricted
2. Power Null anything he do i guess

 

[manu_zarri]

1. What do you mean by restricted

That i restricted them, since it's standard equipiment i restricted it. basically sonic can't use it

2. Power Null anything he do i guess

His power null negates curse and magic, Stands isn't magic or curse. also that dosen't help with 2-A Immortality type 8