Jason Voorhees Higher Durability?

[Silvervigilant]

Shouldn't Undead Jason have a higher durability?, In his profile it seems that the better dura feat that he has is surviving a 189 kilojoule impact. But throughout the series, Jason has demonstrated feats like:

• Surviving a entire rooftop falling on him.
• Seemingly getting crushed by a tank.
• Surviving a house falling on him
• Tanking this explosion.
• And withstanding a house exploding with him inside.

AP wise Jason has also demonstrated that he can knock down reinforced steel which can yield numbers in the megajoule Range.

So what do you guys think?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Surviving a entire rooftop falling on him.

That's 9-B, but I'm not sure if that's an upgrade

Seemingly getting crushed by a tank.

I don't think its confirmed he got crushed there.

Tanking this explosion.

Now this is worth calcing imo.

And withstanding a house exploding with him inside.

The house thing is an outlier though. A direct mortar strike killed Jason, so him having Gigajoule+ durability.

 

[Silvervigilant]

The house thing is an outlier though. A direct mortar strike killed Jason, so him having Gigajoule+ durability.

It was mortar tho? also guys having a high durability but get injuried by bullets are very common in fiction

 

[Silvervigilant]

Now this is worth calcing imo.

Oh Jason also survived a house falling on him

 

[Qawsedf234]

It was mortar tho?

Yeah, it was during Part IX. The FBI doesn't have access to artillery after all.

Oh Jason also survived a house falling on him

Might be worth calcing. Though I'm not sure how you'd do that.

 

[Silvervigilant]

Yeah, it was during Part IX. The FBI doesn't have access to artillery after all.

This scene right? we don't see the mortar, but anyway the explosion seemed pretty big, higher than a mortar imo, and Jason still has plenty of feats that puts him above a mortar explosion.

 

[Qawsedf234]

we don't see the mortar, but anyway the explosion seemed pretty big, higher than a mortar imo

Actually, mortars can get pretty big payload size with most modern ones having a lethal blast wave at 15-30 meters from origin.

has plenty of feats that puts him above a mortar explosion.

I don't think so. A common US military mortar explosive that I could find (the M888) has an explosive yield weight of 1.68 kilograms of Composition B. Multiply that by 1.33x to get the weight in TNT and that's 2.2344 kilograms of TNT or 9,348,729.6 Joules (9.3 MegaJoules).

Being directly hit by that is beyond anything Jason has taken, which is why he was gibbed.

 

[Silvervigilant]

I don't think so. A common US military mortar explosive that I could find (the M888) has an explosive yield weight of 1.68 kilograms of Composition B. Multiply that by 1.33x to get the weight in TNT and that's 2.2344 kilograms of TNT or 9,348,729.6 Joules (9.3 MegaJoules).

Wow didn't know about that

Being directly hit by that is beyond anything Jason has taken, which is why he was gibbed.

Ignoring the house explosion feat right?

 

[Silvervigilant]

Bump

 

[Qawsedf234]

Ignoring the house explosion feat right?

Yeah.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

When are new movies gonna come out?

 

[Silvervigilant]

Yeah.

So i suppose there's only 2 feats worth calcing huh

 

[Abstractions]

The house thing is an outlier though. A direct mortar strike killed Jason, so him having Gigajoule+ durability.

Eh, I'd say that's a matter of interpretation. The inconsistency could be summed up by different directors or choice of direction, I'm pretty sure whatever we have him at now would be around the range if not higher than what blew him up anyway.

What would be an outlier would be rating Jason as 7-A in durability for Krueger being unable to kill him within the Dream World, which is what Freddy is currently rated as in that key.

The house explosion is worth calculating.

 

[Qawsedf234]

I'm pretty sure whatever we have him at now would be around the range if not higher than what blew him up anyway.

What we currently have him at is >550 kj and a 189 kj durability showing. So we don't rate this form of Jason close to 8-C.

which is what Freddy is currently rated as in that key.

While he is Tier 7, Freddy in FvJ is also much weaker than his prime. The novelization said he needed to use his full power to just drop the boiler, which is a far cry from his house tornado scene or when he made a planet of cars.

The house explosion is worth calculating

You can calc it, I just don't think it's useable durability wise. Jason just outright has worse showings than it afterall.

 

[Silvervigilant]

What we currently have him at is >550 kj and a 189 kj durability showing. So we don't rate this form of Jason close to 8-C.

What about Jason breaking down a steel door? and i don't think that The house explosion would make him 8-C.

While he is Tier 7, Freddy in FvJ is also much weaker than his prime. The novelization said he needed to use his full power to just drop the boiler, which is a far cry from his house tornado scene or when he made a planet of cars.

That's true

You can calc it, I just don't think it's useable durability wise. Jason just outright has worse showings than it afterall.

Hard to believe that more "grounded" characters like John Wick, Rambo, Dominic Toreto, Jon Snow all have a greater AP than Jason here on this wiki. But i guess it is what it is.

 

[Qawsedf234]

What about Jason breaking down a steel door?

It'll have ti be recalced since Jason's door is much smaller but it wouldn't hurt.

 

[Silvervigilant]

It'll have ti be recalced since Jason's door is much smaller but it wouldn't hurt.

A small upgrade maybe