James Heller vs Black Panther

[Schnee_One]

Also known as, "Watch as Gargoyle Pits two characters he really likes against each other and seeing how Hues and GV debate" Also celebrating my new pic.

Yada Yada Speed, Yada Yada Max power for both.

Black Panther:

James Heller: 1

 

[Huesito88]

I'm going to say the same thing I said in the Black Knight vs Black Panther thread

"Wait until I'm done with my blog"

 

[Schnee_One]

How long will that take?

 

[DMUA]

Which Blog?

What kind of upgrades we talking?

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Here's about more MCU buffs: :^)

 

[Schnee_One]

This is comic Panther, not MCU Panther

 

[Huesito88]

Which Blog?

What kind of upgrades we talking?

No ap upgrades, well possibly a durability upgrade for vibranium, if I find a consistent tier based on feats for it. Some resistances, abilities, and equipment for Black Panther/his ancestors.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Rip me

Anywho, this is a tough one. Heller's arguably outclassed in skill and smarts here, as while he has the knowledge of an unknown amount of soldiers, scientists, government agents and even Alex Mercer himself, T'Challa has arguably better intelligence and strategy feats, and is clearly the better fighter. His tech can also prove to be an annoyance and make him hard to hit.

That said, Heller resists a good chunk of his abilities either with his regen shrugging off the damage or his unique physiology keeping him safe from harm

Gonna need to stew on this a bit

 

[Schnee_One]

Panther can beat his regen through soul spear if that's what you're asking

 

[Huesito88]

"resists a good chunk of his abilities either with his regen shrugging off the damage or his unique physiology keeping him safe from harm"

"Weaknesses: He needs biomass (Meaning a food source) to keep his healing factor at a high speed (Regenerationn is drastically slower if he has low biomass). If he is too low on biomass he will be incapable of maintaining his Evolved form. "Electricity can lock him in place"

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Oh wait, I didn't see didn't he didn't have soul resistance

Well in that case, does T'Challa's suit have filters or something to keep him from something? Cause I'm pretty sure it can be transfused in a multitude of ways, including airborne

 

[Schnee_One]

 

[Huesito88]

Yes, he does have filters

Edit found it https://i.imgur.com/JNeaj7A_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

@Huesito

Heller could adapt to it to gain a larger tolerance to electricity, so it's not like he's completely screwed if he gets shocked. But filters does cause a problem

@Gar

I got him confused with Alex, who has soul manipulation resistance... but then again, shouldn't Heller have it as well for also being a virus and for consuming Alex and gaining all his abilities? ah **** I'm doing it agai

 

[Huesito88]

@Huesito

Heller could adapt to it to gain a larger tolerance to electricity, so it's not like he's completely screwed if he gets shocked. But filters does cause a problem

@Gar

I got him confused with Alex, who has soul manipulation resistance... but then again, shouldn't Heller have it as well for also being a virus and for consuming Alex and gaining all his abilities? ah **** I'm doing it again

Nope he is from my blog

"Black Panther energy daggers can paralyze a skrull with Mr. Fantastic powers the same Mr. Fantastic who has resistance to Electrical attacks and Black Panther didn't even put it at full power. If Black Panther wanted to he could've paralyzed the skrulls whole entire body, but he didn't. Why? because he trying to do things peacefully, and they just accidentally stumbled upon there world."

 

[Schnee_One]

Wait what?

How does Alex have soul resistance?

 

[Huesito88]

For no reason (I talked to the Prototype experts a while back =P)

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

@Huesito

Isn't Mr. Fantastic High 7A?

@Gar

From being a virus I guess? He was also stated to no longer fit into categories such as "dead" or "alive." Though the more I think about the more unsure I am

 

[Schnee_One]

You know for the heck of it

What else can he beat his regen with?

 

[Huesito88]

@PTSOXMONKEY99 More haxed then ap based

 

[DMUA]

Because he's stated to be neither alive nor dead, but honestly, we don't know the status of his soul, since Prototype is kinda nailed down to Sci Fi rather then Science Fantasy.

 

[Huesito88]

@Huesito

Isn't Mr. Fantastic High 7A?

@Gar

From being a virus I guess? He was also stated to no longer fit into categories such as "dead" or "alive." Though the more I think about the more unsure I am

Only answer I got from Alex having resistance to soul manipulation is the fact that he's already dead, that's it.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Hmm, you make some good points. I'm gonna wait for input from Void before saying anything decisive.

 

[Huesito88]

You know for the heck of it

What else can he beat his regen with?

James regen can be overwhelmed, and it was agreed even Ruby could overwhelm Alex with her electrical attacks (back when she was 8-A, she still lost because she'd inhale Alex attack's)

 

[Huesito88]

Btw Gargoyle the Blog will take a while to finish =P

 

[Huesito88]

@PTSOXMONKEY99 Why are we waiting for Golden again?

 

[Schnee_One]

Simple he knows the verse

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

^What Gar said, he's the most knowledgeable in the verse

 

[Huesito88]

and exactly what does he need to answer here?

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Just clear up the current confusion. He was the one responsible for a lot of the prototype revisions

 

[Huesito88]

Is it about the soul thing?

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

That and another question about Heller's abilities that I had

 

[Huesito88]

Which is?

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

I was gonna ask if Heller had Alex's matter manipulation and if it would help him here in the fight, but I think Vibranium resists it fairly easily

 

[Huesito88]

In my blog I have possibly resistances to matter manipulation for Black Panther

 

[Golden_Void]

Alex has a 127 ton feat at the beginning of the game, that doubles with musclemass, and he's even stronger with his hammerfist and blade power, so at least 254 tons prior to amping himself to fight James who beat and ate him. So AP advantage.

BP scales to Cap who scales to Deadpool who has a 174 ton dura feat.

As for Prototypes not having souls, they're practically reanimated bodies. Alex died but the virus took over his body.

BP is dealing with every form of infection stacked against him. James can also summon multiple other infected to fight with him.

Heller could poke and its a wrap. His profile is also very outdated.

I should erase whoever put that BS about electricity back in his profile

 

[Schnee_One]

Captian America one shotted Deadpool who did the feat without a single scratch.

At best they're even in AP

 

[Golden_Void]

So unquantifiably above 174 vs unquantifiable above 254

uwotm8

 

[Schnee_One]

Where are you getting 254 tons? Is their an amplifier I'm missing?

And that's not even 2x stronger so IDK what you're talking about with him "Poking" Panther

 

[Golden_Void]

Yeah, musclemass doubles Alex's power (literally typed that). And I'm talking about the bio-bomb ability. Even a casual evolved could use a bio-bomb against Heller despite the massive gap in their power, and Alex forcefully consumed 8 at one time.