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Sakuya Izayoi Vs Heaven ascention DIO
Both are bloodbusted and speed is equalized
Both are bloodbusted and speed is equalized
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It's time to stop
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Sakuya stomps.
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DIO but a maid stomps
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thats not on his profile ovo
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He has limited resistance to time stop, all he can do is see and hear, not move in stopped time
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Why isn't DIO able to move in stopped time? Jotaro could do that at the cost of his own time, DIO should scale to that since they both "the same type of Stand". He couldn't move during Jotaro's stopped time because he ran out of his own time. DIO should be able to move in stopped time
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That was Jotaro's own time Stop though. Jotaro could barely move even when he had time in Dio's time Stop.
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Yeah. Also, DIO not being able to Overwrite in stopped time is a myth, similar to Diavolo not being able to interact with the world in erased time. However, it's still heavily out of character. Not that that matters since it's a bloodlusted match.
In his boss fight, DIO can use a teleport that has similar effects to his time stop, and Jotaro can't see or think in it. So his time stop bypasses resistance, most likely.
In his boss fight, DIO can use a teleport that has similar effects to his time stop, and Jotaro can't see or think in it. So his time stop bypasses resistance, most likely.
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eh, ima just go with whats on the profile ovo
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@Smashor
actually I'm pretty sure thats just straight up teleportation or gameplay mechanics
actually I'm pretty sure thats just straight up teleportation or gameplay mechanics
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I'm talking about the bypassing resistances part ovo
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Heaven Dio's time stop is potent enough that Jotaro can't even see or perceive Dio's time stop when he can every other.
>inb4 gameplay mechanics
You can actually use your time stop to enter other time stops in this game and you can see as well into others (such as Diego, High Dio and Jotaro's), but with Heaven Dio you simply cant even see when he uses it. It's a white flash and that's all you get and it's only sometimes.
No it's not teleportation (his teleportation utlizes the eyes of heaven), it uses the timestop sfx that was used in he anime and every other time stop in the game very exiplicitly, it's HA Dio's version of timestop, the reason why he doesnt use anything within time stop is gameplay mechanics though, as to get across how potent his time stop is, he wasnt actually programmed with the standard timestop, as such to actually show him doing anything in his duel heat, he would have to do it after.
We know he wasnt programmed with the standard because HA Dio, while not normally playable, is still using the standard base as every other character does, aka literally not enough moveslots. And Jotaro could barely move in Dio's canon timestop because of how long he had, he could only move for as long as he himself could stop time.
I like Sak, moreso than Dio actually by quite a bit, but Dio's time stop being potent enough to overcame resistances while not infinite, is legit. If Sak stops time, HA Dio would likely do the same back and end it there because he really doesnt like when someone takes his powers.
>inb4 gameplay mechanics
You can actually use your time stop to enter other time stops in this game and you can see as well into others (such as Diego, High Dio and Jotaro's), but with Heaven Dio you simply cant even see when he uses it. It's a white flash and that's all you get and it's only sometimes.
No it's not teleportation (his teleportation utlizes the eyes of heaven), it uses the timestop sfx that was used in he anime and every other time stop in the game very exiplicitly, it's HA Dio's version of timestop, the reason why he doesnt use anything within time stop is gameplay mechanics though, as to get across how potent his time stop is, he wasnt actually programmed with the standard timestop, as such to actually show him doing anything in his duel heat, he would have to do it after.
We know he wasnt programmed with the standard because HA Dio, while not normally playable, is still using the standard base as every other character does, aka literally not enough moveslots. And Jotaro could barely move in Dio's canon timestop because of how long he had, he could only move for as long as he himself could stop time.
I like Sak, moreso than Dio actually by quite a bit, but Dio's time stop being potent enough to overcame resistances while not infinite, is legit. If Sak stops time, HA Dio would likely do the same back and end it there because he really doesnt like when someone takes his powers.
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If Sak leads with time stop, he's probably just gonna over ride it immediatly.
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I never said it was fair, 90% of the time that's probably how it's gonna happen given the circumstance.
On the off chance Sak doesnt use time stop and uses something unavoidable like EE then she has a chance, but Sak tends to always lead with time stop, and given how Dio would react to someone stopping time, he'd probaby time stop, overide it and go only I have the right to stop time, muda, you arent accepted into my reality cue OR. It's gonna play out like that the majority of the time in character, thus dont think it's quite fair, would call it a stomp to save Sak.
On the off chance Sak doesnt use time stop and uses something unavoidable like EE then she has a chance, but Sak tends to always lead with time stop, and given how Dio would react to someone stopping time, he'd probaby time stop, overide it and go only I have the right to stop time, muda, you arent accepted into my reality cue OR. It's gonna play out like that the majority of the time in character, thus dont think it's quite fair, would call it a stomp to save Sak.
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If bloodlusted yeah it'd be a thought based draw.
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Dio either induces PIS and somehow through an extremely convuluted domino effect manages to win, or he does a incap or something (unless acid/bio manip would work, then again his soul manipulation would work fine as well). Or Sak ee's or ohkoes.
It'd probably end up inconclusive due to the random factor of what Beyond would do to net Dio the victory but he should somehow make it out alive.
It'd probably end up inconclusive due to the random factor of what Beyond would do to net Dio the victory but he should somehow make it out alive.
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I'm calling the cops if you make that joke again.Alitudil0 said:
Dont bully sak.
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What are you even talking about? Dios time stop got a potency boost upon gaining heaven. Jotaro can't even see in dios new time stop.
And litterally nothing is stopping Dio from using OR in time stop, at all. Jotaro defeated Dio through fate and Dio being so stuck up his own ass because he already killed jotaro once so underestimated him drastically and even gave him a free win card
And litterally nothing is stopping Dio from using OR in time stop, at all. Jotaro defeated Dio through fate and Dio being so stuck up his own ass because he already killed jotaro once so underestimated him drastically and even gave him a free win card
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Oh you're asking why Dio didn't overwrite Jotaro? We have an actual answer to that, initially Dio manipulated Jotaro into collecting the corpse for him, Dio didn't want Jotaro dead, but by the time Dio wanted Jotaro dead it was to late, he had already began to unlock SPOH. Dio underestimated Jotaro and wasn't aware of the same stand thing because he killed jotaro in his timeline, he was stupid and canonically fated to lose to jotaro no matter what he did, he simply was to arrogant against jotaro and had a vendetta against him so Dio toyed with him for far to long.
Every other character Dio didn't give a shit about though, he soulfucked the entire cast, overwrote valentine from the multiverse the moment valentine tried to be a hero and even swatted jolyne and OR'd her body and ate her soul the moment she tried to attack him.
Basically the reason why he didn't OR jotaro was literally because he was jotaro, everyone else he did it the moment he didn't want them in his way or when they stood against him.
Every other character Dio didn't give a shit about though, he soulfucked the entire cast, overwrote valentine from the multiverse the moment valentine tried to be a hero and even swatted jolyne and OR'd her body and ate her soul the moment she tried to attack him.
Basically the reason why he didn't OR jotaro was literally because he was jotaro, everyone else he did it the moment he didn't want them in his way or when they stood against him.
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Litterally yes. That's unironically exactly what it is. It's even stated somewhere Dio was fated to lose to jotaro no matter what (hell Dio even donuted jotaro instead of OR'd, simply so Dio could gloat to jotaro while he was dying, which backfired because that was when he fully awakened SPOH).
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Yes. Actually there was a thread of that a month or two ago.
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That's just disappointing, especialy from Jojo. A series like Jojo who is praised for having some of the best fights in manga history, where even the asspulls works because of how over the top they are, resorting to fate to explain why the hero wins is so lazy and uninspiring, especialy when part 5 had an extremly good take on fate. It's not even hard to fix, reality overwrite not working in time stop would make it way more coherent, as it would show how DIO's quest for power and overestimating himself led to his own demise, which would have been a better way to recreare part 3 ending(and part 1 to a lesser extent) while still keeping the scene mostly intact.
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