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Cool.

Also seems Alice is training to adapt to higher dimensions for Kaito's eventual trip to Tiana's word.
 
Ya know

We should definitely upgrade the LS of the verse if 50x boost from kaoru to baron rank is accepted

and well I think Counts can maybe be 50 times in stats compared to a Baron rank as Counts are hyped up to be a Wall that easily cannot be crossed instory

Counts are already at speed of light while barons are only dozens of times Mach speed which kind of fits with the linear body enhancement statistics we use

I don't think we should give them like 72,833 times a Baron Rank's statistic (or 7,283 times a Baron's statistic)

However ! I think a case could be made for 50 times ? Possibly would fit I guess since Vsbw is strict with this kinds of stuff and I don't think its far fetched when Counts are the actual walls that cannot be crossed as oppose to Barons Ranks

Even the average folk can use 10x Body enhancement magic so a 10 times boost isn't seen as a big deal (Mainly talking about multipliers not being too insane so a Jump to count rank from Baron rank would definitely be more then 50 times imo)
 
Cool.

Also seems Alice is training to adapt to higher dimensions for Kaito's eventual trip to Tiana's word.
Ya know... people bring up BIG RAGA and Doomsday and such for characters who can adapt to more hax

but alice's adaption speed is broken too
 
Ya know

We should definitely upgrade the LS of the verse if 50x boost from kaoru to baron rank is accepted

and well I think Counts can maybe be 50 times in stats compared to a Baron rank as Counts are hyped up to be a Wall that easily cannot be crossed instory

Counts are already at speed of light while barons are only dozens of times Mach speed which kind of fits with the linear body enhancement statistics we use

I don't think we should give them like 72,833 times a Baron Rank's statistic (or 7,283 times a Baron's statistic)

However ! I think a case could be made for 50 times ? Possibly would fit I guess since Vsbw is strict with this kinds of stuff and I don't think its far fetched when Counts are the actual walls that cannot be crossed as oppose to Barons Ranks

Even the average folk can use 10x Body enhancement magic so a 10 times boost isn't seen as a big deal (Mainly talking about multipliers not being too insane so a Jump to count rank from Baron rank would definitely be more then 50 times imo)
Body strengthening is what makes the cast superhuman, without it they would just be normal humans, with the exception of Lilia who even without it, would still be strong, and the 6 Kings too based on the author statement before about tanking planet busting attacks unguarded or soemthing.

But yea with multipliers, the wiki is very strict, so think it would be hard going for an upgrade.
 

MIYAMA KAITO THE RIZZ LORD FIGHTS THE UNHOLY SITH LORD HIMSELF ! DARTH VADER !!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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I think Pegasus and Hecker are the same person

I have evidence now

Pegasus is like Sukuna and Hecker is Yuji Itadori
 
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Anyways EUL is so strong lmao

In Yuusha Gaiden chappy 4 !!!

Eul can mimick shock fist which viscounts can learn

It detonates inside your body and BLOWS you the **** up from inside

And Eul mocks the poor guy for using it because it DOES NOT work on Count Ranks or Higher LMFAO ! Eul can copy that no Problem so its nice to see her talent being shown

They can also fire it from a distance it seems with another magic (Co-ordinate Targetting Magic)

Idk why I like small fight chapters like this

Also lowkey this destroys the Viltrumite from the Invincible Universe
 
The author confirmed that Alice's original world is called Earth.

At one point, Kaito asks why Alice knows Japanese laws so well when she never visited his world. Turns out it's the same, and Makina's world by sheer coincidence developed in the same direction.

That also means she has basically mastered everything feasible in our world implicitly.
 
Huh...yknow that makes sense. Alice lived in the past circle, it would make sense if heart tools died out overtime since she met makina many many years in the future. Said future was more modernized.

If that's the case and it's the same world, Alice literally saved Earth and by proxy kaito
 
It’s more like Alice’s world is Proto-Earth, and the world Makina created is Earth 2.0.

By proxy, Isis is the world creator of proto-earth.
 
which means Alice knows Negative Theology and Modalities and by extension world creators transcend them as they're byproduct of mortal minds and world creator transcend them

tier 0 confirmed (y)
 
At one point, Kaito asks why Alice knows Japanese laws so well when she never visited his world. Turns out it's the same, and Makina's world by sheer coincidence developed in the same direction.

That also means she has basically mastered everything feasible in our world implicitly.
Just wait until Alice goes to Tiana's world and starts yapping about quantum physics and string theory.
 
Alright, should we give six kings time stop res and void manip res? Cuz Isis' golem in the Six Kings dungeon uses Cocytus Infinity, and the only way to progress is to overcome it. Megiddo cleared the dungeon before, so I think they should outright if not possibly get it.

And what about WC magic power being CM1 now? Their authority = existence = soul = magic power. Fate got erased by Shiro's magic power (something that authorities like Life's couldn't resurrect from) and then regen back from it, would that be high godly?
 
Alright, should we give six kings time stop res and void manip res? Cuz Isis' golem in the Six Kings dungeon uses Cocytus Infinity, and the only way to progress is to overcome it. Megiddo cleared the dungeon before, so I think they should outright if not possibly get it.

And what about WC magic power being CM1 now? Their authority = existence = soul = magic power. Fate got erased by Shiro's magic power and then regen back from it, would that be high godly?
Aren't all World Creator related abilities basically CM Type 1

Also yeah.. Should add abit more along with a small buff to the Peerage Page

We should add possibly "limited durability negation" via Shock Fists which is not uncommon amongst Viscount rank who can learn this

So Caraway can potentially get it and I have a match planned for her
 
Alright, should we give six kings time stop res and void manip res? Cuz Isis' golem in the Six Kings dungeon uses Cocytus Infinity, and the only way to progress is to overcome it. Megiddo cleared the dungeon before, so I think they should outright if not possibly get it.

And what about WC magic power being CM1 now? Their authority = existence = soul = magic power. Fate got erased by Shiro's magic power (something that authorities like Life's couldn't resurrect from) and then regen back from it, would that be high godly?
I remember the Isis golem does like immediately use Cocytus Infinity, but you could argue it could have gotten speed blizted or something, which is iffy honestly considering Megiddo's personality as a battle maniac who likes to take things head on.

6 Kings are stated to have resistance to abnormal conditions, it probably falls under that, probably along with lots of other stuff we just haven't seen yet.

We know WC's abilities are conceptual, everything they do works off that, but that's a little different from erasing someone conceptual. To resist erasure from a WC would also require resistance to concept manipulation just like all their other abilities, but doesn't mean when they erase someone that person was destroyed conceptually.
 
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I remember the Isis golem does like immediately use Cocytus Infinity, but you could argue it could have gotten speed blizted or something, which is iffy honestly considering Megiddo's personality as a battle maniac who likes to take things head on.

6 Kings are stated to have resistance to abnormal conditions, it probably falls under that, probably along with lots of other stuff we just haven't seen yet.

We know WC's abilities are conceptual, everything they do works off that, but that's a little different from erasing someone conceptual.
Well tbf shiro was directly using her magic power to Amp their respective authorities

So it likely has those traits associated with the conceptual nature of authorities

Fate was being painted over with the text describing it as "white" so she was being overwritten by it
 
Well yea she was being erased, but conceptual, isn't said.

The mechanics of an authority is conceptual, but what effects does it display? That's basically where I am at, the underlying cause of everything a WC does is conceptual, but the effects are what's relevant when it comes to something like regen, I don't think fading to white is enough.

Chronois authority is conceptual, but the effects are manipulating time, if we had something where the effects are to erase concepts, then it's obvious, but to say any erasure is necessarily conceptual isn't correct imo, but I could be wrong.
 
Need to add shock fist first, but it could work I guess, albeit I think Caraway so far seems like a physical fighter, while Garfiel will outskill her, so it's a matter of when she decided to use the hax ie bfr.
 
Is Nebula considered able to grow passed high 1B? Or is it like her first key says "higher" because the power was modified to be a RE type ability. While her 2nd "ultimate god" key is like a state of being where she encompasses/absorbs everything in a high 1B state.
 
Got around to reading the Gaiden chapters, and while shock fist is interesting, this statement is even more so

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Above Count Rank, tricky techniques don't work, so instead of using hax, it's better to just use brute force. So, basically once you reach Duke Rank, you should basically have resistances to almost all hax, matches up with the Megiddo feat mentioned before of resisting Isis time/void hax.
 
I kinda like how Hax Merchants aren't really that strong in Yuusha Shoukan Universe.

Physical Stats + a way to circumvent their immortality is probably the better option in dealing with Counts because they have counter measure against your techniques !

Although Count ranks are very rare and varies alot yeah
 
Its also implied that they have a ranged based version of Shock Fist ! Honestly, wouldn't be surprised if they introduce more Hax techniques because iirc

Speed type Barons are Dozens of times Mach speed ! while other types speciliase in powers or some ability.
 
The higher up the ranks you go, the more hax you gain, but eventually that becomes useless, it's back to pure power.

Counts being able to attack you internally from a range is neat, though we knew that sort of stuff ignoring defenses, messing with causality, was a thing 6 Kings did a long while back, but in their case its not just a ranged attack which attacks you internally, but a ranged attack which attacks you internally, and is guaranteed to hit due to causality shenanigans.

And yea all these attacks negate immortality, otherwise a purely physical attack is doing nothing and they would just tank it.
 
Makes me wonder about illness's dura negating attacks. It worked on a golem sure but like it was a golem powered by Alice and had considerable magic and power

But yeah, every ability on the peerage holder blog gets resisted with addition to durability negation ig? Count ranks need that now
 
That Illness was from tens of thousands of years ago, I doubt she was Duke Rank at the time, especially since durability negating attacks was shown by a Viscount Rank.

It explicitly doesn't work above Count Rank, so it's a pointless technique to use against those sorts of opponents. But yea essentially Viscounts get durability negation, and we can add a new section in the peerage page for Duke's with resistances to all abilities below that rank.

We still have to add power null which works on power null to Counts as well.
 
abit of wank but what about annihilation magic ? Technically this was spatial annihilation magic which erases stuff but annihilation magic in general seems to have some form of erasure ? because in the same scan the word erasure and annihilation is used interchangeably

from chapter 1283 of the web novel, the remaining gravel are implied to have disappeared but idk

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maybe there is some correlation cuz the word annihilation was also used for when Isis erased the black bears completely
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spatial annihilation magic was brought up again here
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Though if the golem had defense magic, illness's dura neg technique bypassed it. I think it bypasses magic power to attack internally. So it may be stronger than normal techniques like those. The golem itself had enough power to one shot her too pretty sure, and although illness trained she was fit for at least count rank at that time I think?

Unless we say the golem isn't trained to make a resistance to dura neg passive like a skilled magic user
 
Isis magic is special so that can't be used for anything, and annihilation is vague, spatial annihilation destroys well space, its obviously a kind of annihilation magic, but just annihilation doesn't really tell us anything so far.

High ranking demons can break whatever they eat down on a molecular level, so wouldn't be a stretch to say higher rank people can do that in general not just by eating, but it's a leap.
 
OH SHIT !

ANRI IS FRIENDS WITH ELECTRONE AND HAS 5 BLESSINGS ! ALSO KAITO HAS A KID WITH SIEGLINDE AND LUNA
 
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