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Isis is consistently the most popular heroine in the series for a reason.

I also subscribe to the Isis is best girl agenda too, though really close for me between Isis, Alice and Shiro.
 
I don't need to choose bro, harem is always the path.
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May the Venuz gg bless the harem.

Also, you said Alice, Shiro, and Isis, where Kuro btw? From what I have read she seems very into the mc-
 
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Isis best girl so far, try to change my mind. (Te amo means I love you btw)
🤝 She was also the first to show that polyamory is normal. The good thing is, character development exists, if it didn’t, the MC would’ve ended up as a bad harem MC. You’re almost at that moment.
I don't need to choose bro, harem is always the path.
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May the Venuz gg bless the harem.

Also, you said Alice, Shiro, and Isis, where Kuro btw? From what I have read she seems very into the mc-
Pretty much every single girl Kaito meets or interacts with ends up becoming his love interest, lover, and wife sooner or later. It doesn’t matter what race they’re from, that’s the kind of rizz he has, and that’s the type of harem MC he’s becoming.
I’m also proud of how he gains immortality like the rest of his harem. Even the human girls get it, which I really like, because I hate when there’s no equality in a harem where it actually matters.

The author of UQ Holder did it dirty by killing off three girls in the MC’s harem. The first two were human girls who had just made beautiful love confessions to the MC, wanting to be together forever and all that. But something bad happened shortly after, and since they were human, over the 100 years that passed, they had already died by the time the MC came back.
The last girl lost her immortality because her ability was too overpowered for the verse, so the author took it away. She died of old age. The MC did everything he could to make her life happy, and she died in his arms. After that, the harem just didn’t feel whole or complete anymore since the MC wasn’t with all his lovers at the end.
 
There will be no sad endings here, after all the world is at peace, the world's singularly that is Kaito, will only have happiness in his future.

That's what's great about this series, you can relax and enjoy it, not take things too seriously.

Except the powers scaling, which still baffles me, how op this slice of life is
 
On brand actually, the more you think about it, the more you're glad that the author didnt write battle shounen type novel because we can get not only high 1-A+ Epilogue, but Universal low tiers 💀

In any case, the more you think about it, the more you realized it was never meant to be taken seriously and anybody who did it will be going for an lsd ride
 
Isis is also like near best girl for me, or very close to. Alice's personality honestly just matches me really well, it's like a connection with her. So I've always had her as my personal best
 
Eh, could be implying this is a whole hierarchy here; higher order dimensions>exceed omnipotent (omnipotent and omniscient)>omnipotent? Only issue with that is Tiana who is only one on that level, and the plural is used here, though I doubt the author even conceptualized Tiana at this point, so could be a moot point.

But yea still have beings like Shiro and Kuro being able to interfere with and perceive higher dimensions, is the raw in their statement higher dimension or higher order dimension?

This should have been simply, now there is a whole other angle we are going down...
For Kuro and Shiro, the raws state they can perceive and interfere the higher-order dimensions. I wouldn't say for sure if that implied the same ones Tiana's from. They also can't create them, no statements imply that.

I wasn't too sure what the implications would be for pointing out that small detail, but it could go either way for being how old it is and that the author didn't conceive Tiana at that point. My bad.
 
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Whoops just saw that

Though now that i think about it,' if higher order beings make those dimensions, what about the lower ones. Wasn't that statement used to say they can make higher dimensions?
 
Quasi-Omnipotent beings can make temporal dimensions, those are the only other dimensions. The relationship between a "higher-order dimension", and a temporal dimension hasn't been explored.

It could lead towards some interesting lines of logic if you think about it though.
 
there might actually be a chance that it's different hierarchy altogether, and we'll have to suffer for figuring out what the **** it means again...
 
What are the two routes we'd go down towards if the statement ends up as either higher dimension or higher-order dimension? Because I'm not aware of the effects of it being higher-order dimensions tbh 😭
 
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Higher dimensions: changes almost nothing. H1-B.

Higher Order Dimensions: Might have a lot of potential for H1-B+.
 
What are the two routes we'd go down towards if the statement ends up as either higher dimension or higher-order dimension? Because I'm not aware of the effects of it being higher-order dimensions tbh 😭
I still think Omnipotents, and Omnipotents and Omniscients are infinite dimensional, so they are at least High 1-B.
I think using the higher order statement to apply to Tiana when she definitely wasn't thought of at the time, and it was a pluralized statement is iffy. That said the whole statement looks like a whole hierarchy which starts off with nuking a world<omnipotent beings<beings that exceed omnipotence<being that cannot even be described by the word infinite<beings that can freely create higher order dimensions.

Before Tiana was even a thing, the top of the hierarchy excluding outliers was the omnipotent and omniscient beings, so even viewing this to say like this is a whole hierarchy and there actually exists beings that infinity can't describe and beings above that which can freely creating higher order dimensions, doesn't really work, as while Tiana could fit into being a being which can freely create higher order dimensions, there aren't beings above "exceeding omnipotence" that infinite can't describe, Makina's rivial was in fact infinite. Unless we are going to say Current Makina fits there since she fought her rival which infinite could describe, was a very long time ago, and she got stronger since then.....


Which means Current Makina is High 1-B+, Omnipotent beings are High 1-B, and I suppose Tiana being a much higher order dimensional being in comparison to the already uncountable infinity is even further into High 1-B+, since Low 1-A is about all possible dimensional space, and she can't kill Makina whose true self is in a place like that which isn't on a dimensional scale.

My head hurts



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Ah my bad, we should just proceed with High 1-B for everyone and worry about this 3 months later. Use the current translations we have now by lazycat to get it over with 🥀
 
I'm basically up for H1-B Omnipotent and Omnipotent and Omniscient beings, H1-B+ for Makina and Tiana tho for a different reason, my understanding was the existence of two different hierarchies. Normal dimensions (Trinia, our world, etc) and higher order dimensions(Tiana's world). This would fit perfectly with that "can freely create higher order dimensions" thing as Tiana is from a higher "hierarchy" so there being multiple of these beings isn't shocking at all. Well.....yea, heavily depends on the translation results tho....

Not as simple as it seemed, is it...?
 
Makina is Omnipotent and Omniscient, and while stronger than the others its not a massive difference, Canalis is described as slightly weaker than her, and Makina herself says fighting other beings like that are a pain, because it takes a while, like thousands of years, so if Makina is High 1-B+, Canalis, Electrone etc, would also scale.
 
Makes sense. We kinda cleared out that world creators have almost every ability in the verse, so it's easy to insinuate others could reach that level using RE or something.

But yikes, I sure overcomplicated things 😭
 
If you're talking about the higher order dimensions then not really, I was gonna bring those things or something similar later anyways. So things were bound to go overcomplicated....
 
I am just not going to think about that for a little, coming back to this comment though to distract myself
I don't need to choose bro, harem is always the path.
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May the Venuz gg bless the harem.

Also, you said Alice, Shiro, and Isis, where Kuro btw? From what I have read she seems very into the mc-
It's a meme in story that while Kuro is supposedly the main heroine she gets upstaged by others. For me, that's very much the case.

I don't like her personality as much as the others, baby castella antics aren't as amusing after a while. Shiro's antics however for me are still amusing, because you never know what she will do next.

And then other thing which is big for me is character development, which kinda stagnates for Kuro, meanwhile Shiro and Isis are still developing, Alice doesn't really massively develop after her arc, but you see more to her personality, and overall her being the most devoted lover, and also Kaito's best friend, makes her personality very appealing for me.

But yea Kuro is like #4 for me, and even then I would have to think about it, because Illness may take that position from her. Main heroine lol
 
If we don't use that beyond infinity statements as much, I'm not sure what other evidence would really make them high 1-B+ besides what I said in that thread tbh.

And yeah, Kuro stagnated a bit. A lot of the other characters surpassed her in development. Maybe when she gets some big arc this will change, but Alice, Isis, illness are big up there for me
 
I actually liked Kuro, much more than the other main heroine in other series anyway, mainly due to her being a baby castella gremlin and Kaito really spoiling her, like he literally had precognition solely due to his trauma eating her baby castella failure, and he still continue doing so lol, bst boyfriend material fr

But actually, got a give her credit, without her Kaito gonna be progressing much later if he didn't meet her first, so yah, main heroine everyone
 
Starting to get impatient with the calc evaluations, after this whole headache with High 1-B, I don't want to immediately going another headache inducing topic like Isis magic power of death, but can't do anything else strength, speed, lifting strength without the calcs been accepted.

I might just post the ap upgrades, and whenever the tsunami calc is evaluated make another CRT, doesn't seem productive to hold up a verse wide revision over a calc that applies to like 2 characters.
 
Think the High 1-B thread should be closed? There's nothing much further to do about it. Oh, I think the removal of the 2-D, 3-D statement for Shiro on the world creator blog should be good.
 

Might kill Isekai at Peace High 1-A, but we'll see
 

Might kill Isekai at Peace High 1-A, but we'll see
The wank was fun till it lasted (shouldn't have existed in the first place, cough)
 
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