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Invincible Season 4 General Discussion Thread

While the statement is funny, Superman has moved planets in the modern era.

Overall, though I do feel bad for Kirkman based on these comments. While not shipping levels of deranged, power scalers are still super cancer to deal with.

If you use Supreme scaling Omni-Man has direct scaling to an overt planet-buster but then you get into Image crossover scaling weirdness.
Kirkman don't seem to care all too much when it comes to this stuff given he agreed that the PPG would wreck Nolan
 
Kirkman don't seem to care all too much when it comes to this stuff given he agreed that the PPG would wreck Nolan
No, what I mean is this part:
Every time I say it, a bunch of Superman fans, if you can believe there is such a thing, come out of the woodwork and attack me online as if I said something that's not definitively and indisputably true
While I don't agree with him entirely, it seems he gets a degree of online harassment whenever this question gets asked of him.
 
If you use Supreme scaling Omni-Man has direct scaling to an overt planet-buster but then you get into Image crossover scaling weirdness.
Isn't that a straight up High 3-A feat? Since they explicitly elaborate that mass becomes infinite at lightspeed (aka they are abiding fully to theory of relativity here). Also Image comics crossover scaling is almost as horrid as the current Marvel/DC situation man
 
Since they explicitly elaborate that mass becomes infinite at lightspeed (aka they are abiding fully to theory of relativity here).
High 3-A requires hitting someone directly at c since you have infinite mass and therefore infinite energy. Supreme is "approaches infinity" and then jumps to FTL. While it respects relatively to a degree, it still breaks it by letting Supreme go FTL.
 
isnt it weird to assume you just get infinitely weaker once light barrier is crossed
It's one of those fiction vs reality issues. True FTL travel just isn't possible under relativity. So you either work around it with stuff like wormholes, have a handwave like a different set of FTL physics, or just don't acknowledge it.
 
It's one of those fiction vs reality issues. True FTL travel just isn't possible under relativity. So you either work around it with stuff like wormholes, have a handwave like a different set of FTL physics, or just don't acknowledge it.
i dont think there's a problem with upscaling FTL here if SoL is directly established in verse to be infinity anyways. doesn't need to be completely accurate to physics just that things in verse about SoL necessitating infinity should make it sufficient enough.
 
i dont think there's a problem with upscaling FTL here if SoL is directly established in verse to be infinity anyways. doesn't need to be completely accurate to physics just that things in verse about SoL necessitating infinity should make it sufficient enough.
its probably not valid for invincible anyways and even if it was canon it'd be a huge outlier lol
 
While the statement is funny, Superman has moved planets in the modern era.

Overall, though I do feel bad for Kirkman based on these comments. While not shipping levels of deranged, power scalers are still super cancer to deal with.

If you use Supreme scaling Omni-Man has direct scaling to an overt planet-buster but then you get into Image crossover scaling weirdness.
It's been ages since I last went through Supreme's stuff but 1. I'm almost certain he way upscales Nolan, there's silly stuff like Suprema lifting a snow globe that had the entire universe shoved into it and 2. Mean Supreme specifically (the one Nolan fought) becomes as strong as he needs to be to overcome a threat, so him fighting Nolan doesn't support much of anything at all.
 
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I don't feel comfortable with much above it because it dwarfs basically everything else (until people starting taking a look at the sun disk and came up with numbers that rivaled the biggest feat in the comic).
You saying the top tiers of the verse performed a feat no one else seems capable of doing ? 🤔
 
that's a possibility but the wording of the panels implies otherwise here. Like "appreciating its endless opportunity to grow and explore", if there was only finite mass there wouldn't be endless opportunity to grow and explore 😭. Also isn't it or shouldn't it be a standard for an infinite universe to have infinite mass? Like I think there being an infinite void would be fairly relevant and just be kind of weird to be assumed instead of a universe with infinite planets and stars no?
 
that's a possibility but the wording of the panels implies otherwise here. Like "appreciating its endless opportunity to grow and explore", if there was only finite mass there wouldn't be endless opportunity to grow and explore 😭. Also isn't it or shouldn't it be a standard for an infinite universe to have infinite mass? Like I think there being an infinite void would be fairly relevant and just be kind of weird to be assumed instead of a universe with infinite planets and stars no?
Qawsedf234, could you clarify ?
Mean Supreme's RE is a Doomsday-esque adaptation than variable power levels. So afaik he only gets stronger with time, rather than stronger in relation to a particular opponent.
 
Also isn't it or shouldn't it be a standard for an infinite universe to have infinite mass
No. Our universe is theorized to have finite mass within an infinite or nearly infinite space. Just having an infinite or infinitly expanding space is not the same as said space having an infinite amount of matter.
 
No. Our universe is theorized to have finite mass within an infinite or nearly infinite space. Just having an infinite or infinitly expanding space is not the same as said space having an infinite amount of matter.
Theorized by whom? I have never heard of a scientific consensus or any scientist in general thinking if the universe is infinite it most likely only has finite mass. And just from a narrative standpoint its just weird to establish an infinite universe when it's just an infinite void with an observable universe sized amount of matter, especially in this case where the narrator says the infinite universe allows for endless opportunity to explore. If the universe was mostly an infinite void then there wouldn't be an endless opportunity to explore...
 
Never without like 60% of the site backing me for anything negative about Dragon Ball lmao
I really dislike this mindset. If something is so obviously wrong and you've got a very strong case against it, why not just do it ? I created this account precisely because I really disliked the way the Invincible-verse was portrayed here

Besides with they way some Dragon Ball fans talk here, you'd think the site is actually out to get them
 
I really dislike this mindset. If something is so obviously wrong and you've got a very strong case against it, why not just do it ? I created this account precisely because I really disliked the way the Invincible-verse was portrayed here

Besides with they way some Dragon Ball fans talk here, you'd think the site is actually out to get them
I agree, but it's politics.
 

New Thread for competition and matchup day
 
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