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Instant death downgrade

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Today, I'll attempt to adjust the scale of this cosmology by starting with "The Sea Theory's Connection to a Parallel Universe."


This implies that you possess infinite power by connecting to versions of yourself across parallel worlds. However, if you theoretically have infinite power but countless parallel worlds, it may become impossible to manage, as 1 power might correspond to 1 parallel world.

Thus, we can conclude that infinite power = infinite parallel worlds = Celestial Foundation Infinity.

But this is just a theory.

Celestial Foundation 2-B, possibly 2-A.
The sea of infinite space > Celestial Foundation 2-B, possibly 2-A.


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Higher Universe
It’s known that Toichirou and UEG met in a world governed by Toichirou within the Celestial Foundation.

Toichirou is a god-like figure who leads a slow life, farming, etc.

In their conversation, UEG stated their goal was to kill Toichirou.

However, Toichirou expressed a desire to relocate because he feared his crops would be destroyed. He then teleported to another location far enough that UEG could no longer sense where he had gone.

Later, it was revealed that he teleported to another sea, a different one from the Sea of Celestial Foundation or where Yogiri Takatou resides.

1. He relocated to another sea that also contains universes.


2. The Sea of Stars isn’t explained in detail but is described as a space with rules different from the Sea of the Celestial Foundation.


3. The Sea of Stars is not the Sea of the Celestial Foundation, and there’s no implication that it is higher or lower than the other sea.


4. It is similar to the original sea where worlds were born, but the difference is that the Sea of the Celestial Foundation holds many parallel worlds and timelines, while the Sea of Stars holds many parallel universes and a higher-level multiverse, which is somewhat similar.



Let’s try to structure this similarly.

For example, in CF:
"There are countless Celestial Foundations, all floating in a space known as
the “Sea.” The individual foundations are like bubbles in this Sea. By the
way, as we are comparing it to the ocean, the Sea also has a depth. If
foundations are at the same relative depth, traveling between them is simple.
Moving to a foundation at a lower depth is even easier, but moving up in the
Sea is much more difficult. Doing so requires an enormous amount of energy.
That is one of the reasons it is not so easy for Yogiri and Tomochika to return
to their own world.."

Although it’s not explicitly stated, the Sea of Stars is arranged in layers from lower to higher, like a "higher universe" extending from the bottom to the highest possible layer, just like the Sea of the Celestial Foundation.

And another theory:

The Higher Universe overlaps with another higher universe, potentially enclosed within the Sea of Stars, which encompasses all higher universes and multiverses.

Returning to Kouryu’s words and the event where the sea remained unharmed, but universes disappeared:
If the universe is larger than or overlaps with the Sea of Stars or the Sea of the Celestial Foundation, then why, when jumping to a higher universe, does the original universe remain intact?

5. From the moment Toichirou is in CF and jumps to another place, the Sea of Stars is beyond perception. After UEG follows, they say Toichirou exists in a higher dimension, suggesting that the Sea of Stars is at a higher level than the Celestial Foundation, 4D.

Therefore, the Sea of Stars is not exceedingly higher, or in other words, it exists at the same level and dimension as the Sea and encompasses all universes.



All of this may not be perfect


Celestial Foundation 2B possibly 2-A
The sea 2-B possibly 2-A
The sea of stars 2-B possibly 2-A


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There is so much wrong here, I can't even say anything. Why can't people just wait for my thread to come up?
 
Thread closed for the time being, as there are already 3 active threads for this verse. When these three are concluded, you can ask for this one to be reopened:

 
This thread can continue now
Out of curiosity, I've been planning to do a similar thread for quite a long time. This one is, frankly, underwhelming to say the least. May I ask to still close it until I open mine? I know there are no "reserved slot" for CRT, but working on something for so long and seeing someone make up a frankly barebone thread is... kinda annoying.
 
Out of curiosity, I've been planning to do a similar thread for quite a long time. This one is, frankly, underwhelming to say the least. May I ask to still close it until I open mine? I know there are no "reserved slot" for CRT, but working on something for so long and seeing someone make up a frankly barebone thread is... kinda annoying.
Only if OP agrees to it.

@Ihsjihahxu would you mind if this thread gets closed and remade at a later time?
 
I mean, sure, but I'm not going to entertain this. If he wants to continue the thread, it's his choice.
If he provides enough proof for what he's stating then it should be given attention, let's remember this is a community made to create and give the most accurate ratings for said characters, takes shouldn't be discarded because you disagree with them.
 
If he provides enough proof for what he's stating then it should be given attention, let's remember this is a community made to create and give the most accurate ratings for said characters, takes shouldn't be discarded because you disagree with them.
I mean yeah sure, ultimately it alleviates my work regardless. However, if it's only to make people barge and create CRT afterward because the OP was poorly made and filled with holes (from my perspective, obviously), I wouldn't say it's viable.

Tbf, it's not even a "me" thing, if I had completely written everything I wanted for the CRT, I wouldn't mind just sharing it with the OP or replacing some part with it. I just feel the current state of the OP is lackluster. If it can pass, I'll be the first fine with it.
 
Honestly, as long as the arguments are usable then it should be fine. It doesn't need to be perfect nor if it must have everything relevant and related to the downgrade as a whole.

It's not even funny anymore how all of this comes simply because the supporters didn't even try to reach out to each other first, even if this gets accepted.. SweetDao's plan for the downgrade itself would be "useless".

But still, aiming for accuracy in the CRT itself is very important. If nobody understand it enough, worst case scenario is that they're going to upgrade Instant Death again from 2-B (if someone didn't decide to make a thread in questions & answers for it).

All of this comes from the OP whether he wanted to continue this or close it for better arguments in the future but yeah personally I agree with SweetDao (If the OP doesn't want to close it, then atleast the additions are going to be added here regardless so that people won't ask/make any CRTS about it except if it's a good argument then that's a completely different thing).
 
High levels of assumptions
You can't just go and speak for the author and change what he wrote.
A parallel world cannot exist in the same universe, it been proven time and again .
The higher dimension argument isn't literally baseless since we have heard the statements from the novel
Did you even read the novels well or do any research at all ?
 
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