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Even if it was extreme Downscaling, shouldn't it be 6-C+? nor that the 6-C were 5% of the strength of supermanI don't think 6-C is based on any calculation, just downscaling.
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Even if it was extreme Downscaling, shouldn't it be 6-C+? nor that the 6-C were 5% of the strength of supermanI don't think 6-C is based on any calculation, just downscaling.
I suppose it could work at least for some charactersSo make everyone that downscaled from Superman "at most High 6-C" instead 6-C? How about the Poseidon feat/calc?
We would need to know where Themyscira is and like Asura said, we couldn't find anything about itSo make everyone that downscaled from Superman "at most High 6-C" instead 6-C? How about the Poseidon feat/calc?
Finally
Well now excuse me, gonna choose which heroes/villains that i want to use for Raikou
Yeah I think so (Trigon's gonna be a tough one)So, should we move on to the next thread with the speed, lifting strength and Trigon stuff?
Wasn't it the idea to propose to make him tier 1?Not really. He just scales above Etrigan and probably to this feat.
Pls stop, everyone knows how it will end
Nah, Zeus physically overpowered him with a casual backhand slap, no hax hereBased on the above discussion, I think that Zeus simply out-haxed Superman, but is roughly equal in power to Darkseid and Highfather, and as such Superman as well.
So…Can Ares’ weakened and prime states be separated into two keys?
If Superman was mostly undamaged, and Zeus, Highfather, and Darkseid are otherwise considered roughly equal, I think that we can write it off as an inconsistency.Nah, Zeus physically overpowered him with a casual backhand slap, no hax here
Besides, without seeing a long drawn out confrontation, it is very hard to judge just how far above Superman Zeus is.If Superman was mostly undamaged, and Zeus, Highfather, and Darkseid are otherwise considered roughly equal, I think that we can write it off as an inconsistency.
It lasted one panel si yeahBesides, without seeing a long drawn out confrontation, it is very hard to judge just how far above Superman Zeus is.
I don't think I'm the only one who'd prefer to scale the much more drawn out Superman vs Darkseid than the two or three panel Superman vs Zeus.
I agree with both personnally, it could go like that "Varies, at most High 6-C | High 6-C" with the justification for the varies part being about how his powers rely on war to keep him strong. Also, for the prime tier, I think it's good if we simply mention he overpowers DianaTrue, I just feel the Varies better reflects Ares' mechanics
In that case it'd be At most High 6-C (While weakened by the One Earth Regime was able to fight but lose against an alternate Aquaman and Wonder Woman) | High 6-C (at his absolute prime was able to overpower Diana but was overwhelmed by Superman)
I'd also note we might have Zeus scaling for Prime Ares and he does swat aside Yellow Lantern
That works for me.I agree with both personnally, it could go like that "Varies, at most High 6-C | High 6-C" with the justification for the varies part being about how his powers rely on war to keep him strong. Also, for the prime tier, I think it's good if we simply mention he overpowers Diana
Something like “higher with Powered Armor (Defeated Wonder Woman. Fought Superman on even grounds and defeated him)” should suffice.It's kind of redundant yeah but the armor made him straight up High 6-C since he fought and defeated Supes in a "fair" fight so this is worth saying he's on the same level
Yeah that should workSomething like “higher with Powered Armor (Defeated Wonder Woman. Fought Superman on even grounds and defeated him)” should suffice.