Infinite speed for Zhuo fan?

[Youngwolf-0.1]

By the way, this idea is not mine — it’s all from @Le_démon_Araii

Let's start


「你的世界。」 卓凡做了介紹："你不是要重塑世界嗎？世界就是這樣開始的，什麼都沒有。盡情發揮你的創造力，盡情繪畫吧。」(supporting evidence)

we will focus on this passage: 什麼都沒有。

We will analyze this passage in detail, providing supporting evidence.

The pinyin 什麼 indicates a “thing”, something, an object, a soul, a law, etc. The term “thing” is very broad, but when you know what makes up the universe, it's quite easy to make the connection with the context of the sentence and the universe of Magic Emperor.


Then the pinyin 都 indicates a “whole”, referring to a set of “things,” and when it says “whole,” it means absolutely the entire set without exception, because otherwise it would be “whole, except for...


Next, we have the pinyin 沒, which shows us a negation, something that does not exist, using “not have,” ‘not’ thus showing a certain “lack” due to the absence of something.


Now when you put everything together without the context, this is what you get

Spoiler

Nothing at all

since it is a true void of nothingness devoid of space, time, causality, etc... it is therefore by default infinite in size, and since Zhuo can easily destroy it, he can destroy an infinite space in a finite amount of time, which gives him infinite speed in attack speed. Next, this void of nothingness is literally “Nothing” in the true sense of the word; it corresponds to NEP 1, and since Zhuo can destroy it, he therefore has the Negation of NEP 1.

 

[MotherStar]

Having received information directly from Araii, I agree with the conclusion, but in practice, what is written is insufficient.

For example, translating the phrase "said" into English, explaining the cosmology in more detail, etc. Therefore, the conclusion is sound but lacks evidence and supporting arguments.

 

[Le_démon_Araii]

Having received information directly from Araii, I agree with the conclusion, but in practice, what is written is insufficient.

For example, translating the phrase "said" into English, explaining the cosmology in more detail, etc. Therefore, the conclusion is sound but lacks evidence and supporting arguments.

Did we talk about this? I don't remember you, sorry, but yes, there are quite a few statements missing, like one that says Zhuo can destroy the world with a single thought right here, then the nothingness of these worlds corresponds to a NEP Nature 1 and Aspect 1, 3, and 4 of memories, and since Zhuo can negate these nothingnesses, it proves a negation of this NEP, and as for infinite speed, well, that's logical to me, destroying a space of infinite size in a finite amount of time is automatically infinite speed in attack speed.

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

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[Youngwolf-0.1]

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[Vesxpura]

since it is a true void of nothingness devoid of space, time, causality, etc... it is therefore by default infinite in size, and since Zhuo can easily destroy it, he can destroy an infinite space in a finite amount of time, which gives him infinite speed in attack speed. Next, this void of nothingness is literally “Nothing” in the true sense of the word; it corresponds to NEP 1, and since Zhuo can destroy it, he therefore has the Negation of NEP 1.

In what world would that by default be infinite in size. not to mention. you havent even proven he actually destroyed that nothingness. Plus this wouldnt even give a speed rating since if you have lets say a infinite range. you could very well perform the same feat and still get speedblitzed by any tier of speed.
Destroying it(which isnt even possible, since its literally nothing) would just give nep interaction or npi at best. Destroying nothing is like destroying a vacuum. it doesnt make sense.

 

[Vietthai96]

A void devoid of time and space didn't have a define size due to being a void; it would be unqualifiable by default, because without space, you can't define or measure its size, length or distance

So yeah, i disagree with Infinite Speed

 

[Le_démon_Araii]

So at best, it will be a negation of NEP, and if he destroyed it, since it is shown that he destroys it in chapter 1315 of Magic Emperor, and since these voids of nothingness are literally “Nothing,” he can destroy “Nothing.” To contradict this would be to deny the feat itself.

 

[Le_démon_Araii]

In what world would that by default be infinite in size. not to mention. you havent even proven he actually destroyed that nothingness. Plus this wouldnt even give a speed rating since if you have lets say a infinite range. you could very well perform the same feat and still get speedblitzed by any tier of speed.
Destroying it(which isnt even possible, since its literally nothing) would just give nep interaction or npi at best. Destroying nothing is like destroying a vacuum. it doesnt make sense.

After proving that, at the outset, worlds are true voids devoid of all things, we will focus on the type of NEP that this produces.

Just as a stone has no soul, this nothingness is the same in the sense that it has no body, no soul, no spirit, no duality, nothing at all, which corresponds perfectly to its nature.
It is even possible to argue for NEP 2 because this nothingness is true “nothingness” devoid of any duality, whether it be light and darkness, good and evil, yin and yang. Initially, none of this existed.

Now, as for appearance, there is aspect 1, “Spiritual non-existence,” since it has no soul, nor any physical and/or astral body; there is also aspect 3, “Mental non-existence,” since it has no mind; and finally, aspect 4, “Information about non-existence,” since it possesses no information that could shape reality, given that reality itself is non-existent.

True non-entities therefore have a NEP nature type 1 and potentially type 2 aspects 1, 3, and 4.

Let us now turn our attention to the fact that Zhuo Fan can destroy these worlds.

In this sentence, which translates as: Shaking his head, Bai Ju sighed and said, “This man has long transcended the limits of time and space. He is not a mere mortal that we can understand. I can only say that if he wanted to destroy this world, all he would have to do is think about it,” we will focus on the last sentence.
(The screenshots will be in French, and I can't be bothered to translate them back into English, so I'll leave that to you.)
" 我只能說，若他要將這世界毀滅，也就一個念頭而已！”

As with the void of nothingness, I will analyze the different pinyin.

First of all, in the passage “若他要將這世界毀滅” he clearly talks about destroying the world, and so with pinyin, 也就一 can be translated in different ways depending on the meaning of the sentence, but when we reread the first English translation, the term “Just one” would be appropriate, knowing that each symbol is a set of “immediately,” “even,” “also,” and “right away.” “accomplish” in the sense of an action, and the sign 1 to define a number.

Now, the pinyin 個念 clearly shows us that this is a thought, an idea, but in our case it is a thought, even if the other would mean that if Zhuo Fan had the idea of destroying the world, it would actually destroy it.

And finally, with these last pinyin 而已, we understand that X is sufficient, meaning that X corresponds to “Just a thought” in the sense that only a thought is needed.So we understand from all this that if Zhuo Fan wanted to destroy the world, a single thought would suffice. Zhuo Fan can therefore destroy these voids of nothingness that are literally “Nothingness,” so he can indeed negate a NEP 1 (and possibly NEP 2) Aspect 1, 3, and 4 if this thread is accepted.

 

[Vietthai96]

So at best, it will be a negation of NEP, and if he destroyed it, since it is shown that he destroys it in chapter 1315 of Magic Emperor, and since these voids of nothingness are literally “Nothing,” he can destroy “Nothing.” To contradict this would be to deny the feat itself.

It isn't even negation of NEP, just Non-Physical Interaction

 

[Hjdjdhf]

「你的世界。」 卓凡做了介紹："你不是要重塑世界嗎？世界就是這樣開始的，什麼都沒有。盡情發揮你的創造力，盡情繪畫吧。」

作为一个中国人，这里的意思应该是说这个世界什么都没有，你可以从0开始创造，我看不出和速度有什么关系
As a Chinese person, the meaning here should be that the world has nothing, and you can start creating from zero. I don't see any relation to speed.

 

[Vesxpura]

And finally, with these last pinyin 而已, we understand that X is sufficient, meaning that X corresponds to “Just a thought” in the sense that only a thought is needed.So we understand from all this that if Zhuo Fan wanted to destroy the world, a single thought would suffice. Zhuo Fan can therefore destroy these voids of nothingness that are literally “Nothingness,” so he can indeed negate a NEP 1 (and possibly NEP 2) Aspect 1, 3, and 4 if this thread is accepted.

I dont think you understand what "negation" truly is. Its not to destroy nothing or create nothing. Its to say that zhuo fan is NOT nothingness. I.E its boolean and treated as truth values.