1-A for Zhuo Fan?

[Youngwolf-0.1]

Tier 1-A for Zhuo fan? Let's try

Thanks to @Le_démon_Araii for this all i dea

Let's start

We know that a being of level 1-A is completely outside of space itself, unrestricted by any space whatsoever, including spatial, spiritual, and mathematical dimensions, because its existence is not limited by these things. However, what I am going to try to prove here is not really that, but rather a derivative of it.

「你的世界。」 卓凡做了介紹："你不是要重塑世界嗎？世界就是這樣開始的，什麼都沒有。盡情發揮你的創造力，盡情繪畫吧。」(supporting evidence)

we will focus on this passage: 什麼都沒有。

We will analyze this passage in detail, providing supporting evidence.

The pinyin 什麼 indicates a “thing”, something, an object, a soul, a law, etc. The term “thing” is very broad, but when you know what makes up the universe, it's quite easy to make the connection with the context of the sentence and the universe of Magic Emperor.


Then the pinyin 都 indicates a “whole”, referring to a set of “things,” and when it says “whole,” it means absolutely the entire set without exception, because otherwise it would be “whole, except for...


Next, we have the pinyin 沒, which shows us a negation, something that does not exist, using “not have,” ‘not’ thus showing a certain “lack” due to the absence of something.


Now when you put everything together without the context, this is what you get

Spoiler

Nothing at all

Zhuo explains to the Celestial Sovereign that they are in “his world” (that of the Sovereign), Zhuo explains to him that this is how the world began, and here we have the passage we have analyzed, which translates with the context as: “where nothing yet existed.”

By this, we mean a world that contains absolutely nothing at all. No time, no space, no laws, no celestial paths, nothing. An absolute void, a true world of nothingness, which also gives it an infinite size by definition.


Here, we have the god of the celestial sword telling Ye Tianmao that Zhuo is beyond the barrier of the world, in an infinite world, the supreme realm, and that they themselves cannot access it until they are “complete,” something that in another CRT has been proven to be an HDE. But in another passage, the god of the celestial sword says that Zhuo is not at all restricted by space and time and can travel through space and time at will without difficulty because he is not affected by the laws of space-time, also proving his superiority over them.


Zhuo is therefore a being that transcends space and time and is significantly superior to real worlds of nothingness, able to affect them to the point of destroying them would easier to him.

Zhuo Fan should therefore be eligible for Tier 1-A.

 

[Suimei_The_Phantom]

I'm sorry, I just read the thread above. Furthermore, I disagree that Zhou Fan is 1-A because Zhou Fan is only above the infinite world. Zhou Fan, who is not bound by space-time itself, only gains immunity to space-time manipulation and does not affect himself. Because indeed, the upper realm that oversees the infinite world cannot be classified as 1-A. This is not qualitative superiority, but quantitative superiority, which is an increase in dimensional structure.

 

[SuperNova55555]

Traveling through time and space is an anti-feat for 1-A

 

[Le_démon_Araii]

Voyager à travers le temps et l'espace est un anti-exploit pour 1-A

I don't see how this is an anti-exploit. It would be if Zhuo were limited in his destination because he would be restricted by space, but he transcends space and time and is not subject to these laws, which means that he is not restricted at all and can go wherever he wants, which is only possible for characters who are non-dimensional in nature, and therefore beyond dimensions.

 

[Youngwolf-0.1]

I'm sorry, I just read the thread above. Furthermore, I disagree that Zhou Fan is 1-A because Zhou Fan is only above the infinite world. Zhou Fan, who is not bound by space-time itself, only gains immunity to space-time manipulation and does not affect himself. Because indeed, the upper realm that oversees the infinite world cannot be classified as 1-A. This is not qualitative superiority, but quantitative superiority, which is an increase in dimensional structure.

Zhuo Fan’s transcendence goes beyond being higher in dimension or outside space-time. He completely surpassed the structure that defines all worlds and realities, including the Upper Realm itself.

 

[SuperNova55555]

I don't see how this is an anti-exploit. It would be if Zhuo were limited in his destination because he would be restricted by space, but he transcends space and time and is not subject to these laws, which means that he is not restricted at all and can go wherever he wants, which is only possible for characters who are non-dimensional in nature, and therefore beyond dimensions.

1-A is not to simply be unrestricted to Space and Time but rather to be wholly irreducible to it as you qualitatively transcend it. Simply existing within Space-Time in any form is inherently an anti-feat and existing outside of it is also not inherently 1-A (as non-dimensional things are not beyond the quality of dimensions, they simply lack it.)

So in whatever way this dude transcends Space-Time or it’s laws is not one which the tier cares about. Not to mention stuff like “transcending time” is a common fictional allegory for time travel—which is not 1-A.

 

[SweetDao]

Sharing opinion with Super_Nova.

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

1-A is not to simply be unrestricted to Space and Time but rather to be wholly irreducible to it as you qualitatively transcend it. Simply existing within Space-Time in any form is inherently an anti-feat

Qualitatively transcending it, means you are in a meta space and time or meta quantitative of it. Other than that, you are not wrong about this not being 1A.

 

[Shar122]

This just sounds like dimensional or time travel tbh, which does not really entail any form of qualitative superiority over lesser things or the material world.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Same as Dao-kun and Super_Nova here

The "free from restrictions of space and time" seem to refer to speed here or a travelling ability rather than transcendence in a qualitative way.

Plus you can't really be 1-A AND be able to travel in regular space and time without reducing yourself qualitatively to become non 1-A.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I disagree with 1-A for Zhuo Fan.

 

[Le_démon_Araii]

I'm sorry, I just read the thread above. Furthermore, I disagree that Zhou Fan is 1-A because Zhou Fan is only above the infinite world. Zhou Fan, who is not bound by space-time itself, only gains immunity to space-time manipulation and does not affect himself. Because indeed, the upper realm that oversees the infinite world cannot be classified as 1-A. This is not qualitative superiority, but quantitative superiority, which is an increase in dimensional structure.

1-A is not to simply be unrestricted to Space and Time but rather to be wholly irreducible to it as you qualitatively transcend it. Simply existing within Space-Time in any form is inherently an anti-feat and existing outside of it is also not inherently 1-A (as non-dimensional things are not beyond the quality of dimensions, they simply lack it.)

So in whatever way this dude transcends Space-Time or it’s laws is not one which the tier cares about. Not to mention stuff like “transcending time” is a common fictional allegory for time travel—which is not 1-A.

However, it can interact with and destroy worlds devoid of space, time, laws, etc. It can literally destroy true nothingness and even create it thanks to the Dao, and is superior to these same true nothingnesses (which should give inf speed in attack speed, by the way).

He can destroy a world where even reality did not exist.

 

[SuperNova55555]

However, it can interact with and destroy worlds devoid of space, time, laws, etc. It can literally destroy true nothingness and even create it thanks to the Dao, and is superior to these same true nothingnesses (which should give inf speed in attack speed, by the way).

He can destroy a world where even reality did not exist.

These are just some hax, not 1-A.

 

[Le_démon_Araii]

These are just some hax, not 1-A.

A feat that gives inf speed, but more importantly, it can destroy a world that should be eligible for BDE T3, I think I see T2.

 

[Le_démon_Araii]

Same as Dao-kun and Super_Nova here

The "free from restrictions of space and time" seem to refer to speed here or a travelling ability rather than transcendence in a qualitative way.

Plus you can't really be 1-A AND be able to travel in regular space and time without reducing yourself qualitatively to become non 1-A.

It would be an anti-feat if it were his physical body, but he is no longer a physical being since he merged with the 10 heavenly paths and embodies the Way of Humanity, which has been accepted as a concept. Therefore, it is not an anti-feat since he is a conceptual being.

 

[SuperNova55555]

It would be an anti-feat if it were his physical body, but he is no longer a physical being since he merged with the 10 heavenly paths and embodies the Way of Humanity, which has been accepted as a concept. Therefore, it is not an anti-feat since he is a conceptual being.

Physicality has nothing to do with the tier. I already said that being unqualified of Space and Time does not make you superior to the quality itself.

 

[Le_démon_Araii]

Physicality has nothing to do with the tier. I already said that being unqualified of Space and Time does not make you superior to the quality itself.

Except that he is through the Dao, which is his “true self,” and that all power is nothing before the Dao, which is the supreme power. Plus, he would be disqualified because he would physically travel through space, which would cause him to regress in level. However, since he is no longer a physical being, he can be considered an avatar because his “true self” is not part of the same plane of existence and is above everything.

 

[SuperNova55555]

However, since he is no longer a physical being, he can be considered an avatar because his “true self”

I have no context on the verse, but I must ask—is this just your headcanon? “can be considered” is a very strange thing to say.

 

[Le_démon_Araii]

I have no context on the verse, but I must ask—is this just your headcanon? “can be considered” is a very strange thing to say.

I don't remember the exact CRT, but we proved AE type 1 because by reaching the Dao, he found “his true nature” as described by the ancient Yuan, and that this true nature is the Dao. We proved in another CRT that the Dao acts as a “true self,” giving immortality type 9, because all cultivators have the same “true nature” since all cultivators come from the Dao and must return to it.

 

[SuperNova55555]

I don't remember the exact CRT, but we proved AE type 1 because by reaching the Dao, he found “his true nature” as described by the ancient Yuan, and that this true nature is the Dao. We proved in another CRT that the Dao acts as a “true self,” giving immortality type 9, because all cultivators have the same “true nature” since all cultivators come from the Dao and must return to it.

I’m not asking if he has a “true self”, but whether or not he has projected an avatar while existing as his true self. I’m asking if that has been stated anywhere or if it’s just your interpretation to reconcile with the anti-feat.

Erm. Not that it matters anyways as there’s still no proof that the Dao qualitatively transcends Space-Time. Its superiority seems to be that it is unrestricted by them but that does not imply at all that it is wholly irreducible to them.

 

[Le_démon_Araii]

I’m not asking if he has a “true self”, but whether or not he has projected an avatar while existing as his true self. I’m asking if that has been stated anywhere or if it’s just your interpretation to reconcile with the anti-feat.

Erm. Not that it matters anyways as there’s still no proof that the Dao qualitatively transcends Space-Time. Its superiority seems to be that it is unrestricted by them but that does not imply at all that it is wholly irreducible to them.

Yes, because the Dao is the true nature of all cultivators, and the Heavenly Sword God said that all power is nothing before the Dao, proving its superiority in addition to being the very source of space-time, to the point where even a fragment of the Dao's power the path to the destruction of the world via the apocalyptic thunder flame, which is described as something that should not exist because it is so powerful, knowing that this flame is the fusion of the powers of the sacred beasts that have their source in primordial chaos, therefore the Dao, which itself is the source of space-time and everything in existence, proving a qualitative superiority over the latter.

 

[SuperNova55555]

Yes, because the Dao is the true nature of all cultivators, and the Heavenly Sword God said that all power is nothing before the Dao, proving its superiority in addition to being the very source of space-time, to the point where even a fragment of the Dao's power the path to the destruction of the world via the apocalyptic thunder flame, which is described as something that should not exist because it is so powerful, knowing that this flame is the fusion of the powers of the sacred beasts that have their source in primordial chaos, therefore the Dao, which itself is the source of space-time and everything in existence, proving a qualitative superiority over the latter.

None of this addresses my points. And being the source of Space-Time is Low 2-C without additional context.

 

[Vesxpura]

Disagree. The justification for the tier seems really poor.

 

[Le_démon_Araii]

None of this addresses my points. And being the source of Space-Time is Low 2-C without additional context.

Your argument for creating an avatar while existing as your “true self” has already been proven in another AE CRT. then you talk about the fact that the Dao does not qualitatively transcend space-time, yet I have provided proof that primordial chaos = Dao, that the flame of apocalyptic thunder comes from primordial Chaos, and that this power is unsurpassable, meaning that it is qualitatively superior to the point that nothing can surpass it.

 

[SuperNova55555]

Your argument for creating an avatar while existing as your “true self” has already been proven in another AE CRT. then you talk about the fact that the Dao does not qualitatively transcend space-time, yet I have provided proof that primordial chaos = Dao, that the flame of apocalyptic thunder comes from primordial Chaos, and that this power is unsurpassable, meaning that it is qualitatively superior to the point that nothing can surpass it.

Unsurpassable does not mean 1-A. Uh, I guess it can be granted that there’s an avatar but I have no context on the verse (I’m assuming it’s because they returned to the Dao but retained their bodies?)

In any case there’s still a lack of proof for 1-A.

 

[Le_démon_Araii]

Unsurpassable does not mean 1-A. Uh, I guess it can be granted that there’s an avatar but I have no context on the verse (I’m assuming it’s because they returned to the Dao but retained their bodies?)

In any case there’s still a lack of proof for 1-A.

• As a default, statements of being "above dimensions" are set at Low 1-A, and the same is applied to statements indicating superiority over "All of space and time," and similar. However, if they are applied to realms that can be inferred to surpass the very composition of the lower reality (e.g. Realms that are, themselves, non-composite, such as conceptual domains, or often, voids of nothingness), then 1-A is the most appropriate rating for them.
  
  The Dao is the source of everything in existence and exists in everything that composes it, namely the entire cosmology, including the voids of nothingness, knowing that when a world is created, there is literally nothing in it; it is devoid of space, time, laws, reality, etc. The “world” in which Zhuo lives is the space that encompasses all of these worlds, which are represented as white, gray, and black spheres that he can also significantly affect, as he can destroy several of them at once. Zhuo is literally superior to a true void of nothingness devoid of everything, embodying “nothingness.”
  
  It exists in the space that encompasses all of space and time, and this same world is significantly larger than all of those worlds, which are nevertheless infinite, which should already make it eligible for level 1-A.

 

[Le_démon_Araii]

Unsurpassable does not mean 1-A. Uh, I guess it can be granted that there’s an avatar but I have no context on the verse (I’m assuming it’s because they returned to the Dao but retained their bodies?)

For the first part of your question, I refer you to this CRT for clarification.

 

[SuperNova55555]

• As a default, statements of being "above dimensions" are set at Low 1-A, and the same is applied to statements indicating superiority over "All of space and time," and similar. However, if they are applied to realms that can be inferred to surpass the very composition of the lower reality (e.g. Realms that are, themselves, non-composite, such as conceptual domains, or often, voids of nothingness), then 1-A is the most appropriate rating for them.
  
  The Dao is the source of everything in existence and exists in everything that composes it, namely the entire cosmology, including the voids of nothingness, knowing that when a world is created, there is literally nothing in it; it is devoid of space, time, laws, reality, etc. The “world” in which Zhuo lives is the space that encompasses all of these worlds, which are represented as white, gray, and black spheres that he can also significantly affect, as he can destroy several of them at once. Zhuo is literally superior to a true void of nothingness devoid of everything, embodying “nothingness.”
  
  It exists in the space that encompasses all of space and time, and this same world is significantly larger than all of those worlds, which are nevertheless infinite, which should already make it eligible for level 1-A.

That’s just a space that encompasses various dimensions… I don’t see how that’s 1-A. The reason why the above examples are 1-A is because the realm’s composition and quality (or lack thereof) transcends the qualification of spatiotemporality in the sense that the non-1-A realms are not parts of it’s whole. The difference with Low 1-A is that it still encompasses the lower realms (as a Proper Class still contains the smaller sets within itself) and as such, Space and Time can be considered parts of itself (like a realm that is too large to be encompassed by Space and Time but nevertheless encompasses Space and Time itself).

But with the various worlds appearing as bubbles within the space itself sort of disqualifies any qualitative transcendence as it implies the latter scenario. But if those bubbles are Space-Times in themselves, then I believe a Low 1-C rating is tenable.

For the first part of your question, I refer you to this CRT for clarification.

I did read it. But it didn’t clear my confusion.

 

[Le_démon_Araii]

That’s just a space that encompasses various dimensions… I don’t see how that’s 1-A. The reason why the above examples are 1-A is because the realm’s composition and quality (or lack thereof) transcends the qualification of spatiotemporality in the sense that the non-1-A realms are not parts of it’s whole. The difference with Low 1-A is that it still encompasses the lower realms (as a Proper Class still contains the smaller sets within itself) and as such, Space and Time can be considered parts of itself (like a realm that is too large to be encompassed by Space and Time but nevertheless encompasses Space and Time itself).

But with the various worlds appearing as bubbles within the space itself sort of disqualifies any qualitative transcendence as it implies the latter scenario. But if those bubbles are Space-Times in themselves, then I believe a Low 1-C rating is tenable.


I did read it. But it didn’t clear my confusion.

What you say does not disqualify anything because this “space” is not a dimension or anything else. it can be seen as a void, an emptiness that contains countless universes, because yes, these dimensions are universes, which I have also proven and which has been accepted. It is a void where there is nothing but darkness and “spheres,” but how does the fact that they appear as spheres disqualify them? So a lot of verses or feats will be debunked if we follow your logic, knowing that this page is mainly about a void of nothingness distinct from reality to such an extent that it is devoid of space-time, which is the case here because these spheres are completely devoid of space-time, laws, reality, etc... They are literally “nothingness,” which makes them distinct between a world that contains reality and a world that contains none at all. Furthermore, “the entirety of space and time” is clearly respected because each world is formed by primordial chaos, which is the source of space and everything, and this void encompasses all of that.

Next, regarding your other question, when they attain the Dao, they discover their “true nature,” which is the Dao, and at that moment, their “true self” becomes one with the Dao, but they retain their “body,” even though this body is not a physical body, knowing that all cultivators have the same “true self,” which is therefore the Dao.

 

[SuperNova55555]

So a lot of verses or feats will be debunked if we follow your logic

Ok.

 

[Vesxpura]

Zhuo is literally superior to a true void of nothingness devoid of everything, embodying “nothingness.”

It exists in the space that encompasses all of space and time, and this same world is significantly larger than all of those worlds, which are nevertheless infinite, which should already make it eligible for level 1-A.

The issue with this, I dont think they really prove it lacks everything in reference to superiority. They just lack everything, something similar to dragon balls world of void(the place where TOP is held). Which isnt really 1A nor would help as supporting evidence for 1A characters

 

[Le_démon_Araii]

The issue with this, I dont think they really prove it lacks everything in reference to superiority. They just lack everything, something similar to dragon balls world of void(the place where TOP is held). Which isnt really 1A nor would help as supporting evidence for 1A characters

Could you elaborate on your point? Because I don't really understand what you're getting at.

 

[Vesxpura]

Could you elaborate on your point? Because I don't really understand what you're getting at.

For an 1A Void of nothingness. it requires superiority. A void of nothingness by itself doesnt scale anywhere nor help other characters who transcend it scale anywhere.

 

[SuperNova55555]

Could you elaborate on your point? Because I don't really understand what you're getting at.

Privation is not transcendence.

 

[Le_démon_Araii]

Well, as for the voids of nothingness mentioned at the beginning, we cannot say that they encompass reality because they are devoid of it. However, the space that encompasses all universes is separated by a metaphysical barrier that is impossible to cross because to go beyond this barrier, one must attain the Dao, and this “beyond” encompasses all reality contained in each universe that has content. we can say that it surpasses it qualitatively because the simple fact of having to attain the Dao in order to access it shows a qualitative superiority. This had been proven and accessed for Zhuo Fan's HDE.

 

[Vesxpura]

Well, as for the voids of nothingness mentioned at the beginning, we cannot say that they encompass reality because they are devoid of it.

Then why is it being used as supporting evidence? Also i never said anything about encompassing reality. The void that the post is talking about just seems like below 11-C tbh so transcending it isnt really a feat to support Eligibility of 1A. Let alone any tier

However, the space that encompasses all universes is separated by a metaphysical barrier that is impossible to cross because to go beyond this barrier, one must attain the Dao, and this “beyond” encompasses all reality contained in each universe that has content. we can say that it surpasses it qualitatively because the simple fact of having to attain the Dao in order to access it shows a qualitative superiority. This had been proven and accessed for Zhuo Fan's HDE.

So why wouldnt this stay HDE and instead be a qualitative gap?

 

[Le_démon_Araii]

Then why is it being used as supporting evidence? Also i never said anything about encompassing reality. The void that the post is talking about just seems like below 11-C tbh so transcending it isnt really a feat to support Eligibility of 1A


So why wouldnt this stay HDE and instead be a qualitative gap?

So if I understand correctly, a true void of nothingness, which is the real “nothing,” is inferior to a void that contains reality? I don't find that logical. We're talking about total nothingness where absolutely nothing exists, not even creation, knowing that beyond this nothingness there is infinity, which encompasses all worlds. I mention this because the BDE page talks about it here: "A void of nothingness is not necessarily 1-A; it is only 1-A if it encompasses or is vaster than reality in a qualitative manner. "
And the space beyond the global barrier meets this criterion of encompassing reality, since it contains within itself all the realities of all worlds.

I'm not sticking with this HDE because, after talking with other people who do powerscaling, we concluded that it would make more sense to place it at least at Low Outer since it meets the basic criteria. I could also talk about transcendence in the verse's hierarchies, but that would take a long time and I'm feeling a bit lazy.

 

[Vesxpura]

So if I understand correctly, a true void of nothingness, which is the real “nothing,” is inferior to a void that contains reality? I don't find that logical. We're talking about total nothingness where absolutely nothing exists, not even creation, knowing that beyond this nothingness there is infinity, which encompasses all worlds.

What you said is very vague. so it depends on the way you mean "void that contains reality". But other than that. It would definitely be inferior. As its literally nothing, would be inferior to even 0D. Now encompassing is another matter as it can suggest transcendence. However You yourself admitted that you cant say it encompasses because of a "lack of" whatever thing. The infinity thats beyond this nothingness would infact scale somewhere, at minimum low2-C(a few assumptions made). which is greater than the voids no scaling.

I mention this because the BDE page talks about it here: "A void of nothingness is not necessarily 1-A; it is only 1-A if it encompasses or is vaster than reality in a qualitative manner. "
And the space beyond the global barrier meets this criterion of encompassing reality, since it contains within itself all the realities of all worlds.

If we read further on it states that

A void of nothingness is not necessarily 1-A; it is only 1-A if it encompasses or is vaster than reality in a qualitative manner. For example, imagine a void so distinct from reality that it lacks space-time, not because it’s simply empty, but because it is beyond dimensionality and space-time itself. In comparison, the reality we know would be even lesser than a drop of water in an ocean.

And i dont know why your bringing up the space beyond the barrier, as encompassing reality doesnt give bde. and bde talks about existences that have no dimensions so it would be applicable to only the void. Which would not qualify for the second part of the criteria. And it only applies to a singular subject. Not multiple subjects. Meaning something is either a void or not. theres no inbetween. So the space beyond the barrier, wouldnt be a void(absolute sense) unless you prove it to be(which may already be contradicted as you stated its a space) and therefore bde is not relevant to it.
while the void that you actually do talk about. doesnt scale anywhere

I'm not sticking with this HDE because, after talking with other people who do powerscaling, we concluded that it would make more sense to place it at least at Low Outer since it meets the basic criteria. I could also talk about transcendence in the verse's hierarchies, but that would take a long time and I'm feeling a bit lazy.

you clearly talked to the wrong people. It doesnt meet any of the criteria. Based on this post alone. I suggest you go revise on how to truly qualify for 1-A.

 

[Le_démon_Araii]

Ce que vous avez dit est très vague. Cela dépend donc de la façon dont vous entendez « vide contenant la réalité ». Mais à part cela, ce serait assurément inférieur. Étant littéralement néant, il serait même inférieur à 0 D. L'englobement est une autre question, car il peut suggérer la transcendance. Cependant, vous avez vous-même admis qu'on ne peut pas dire qu'il englobe à cause d'un « manque » de quelque chose. L'infini au-delà de ce néant se situerait en fait quelque part, au minimum à 2 °C (après quelques hypothèses), ce qui est supérieur à l'absence d'échelle du vide.

The void containing reality is simple: at the beginning, there is nothing; that is how the world begins. Then comes creation, and thus reality, knowing that it does indeed exist. The “lack” I am talking about is this void of nothingness, but this lack will be filled when creation comes. There is no transcendence. It is literally said that in this void, there were spheres that are the different worlds, which means that this void contains its worlds. There is no transcendence in itself.

Si nous lisons plus loin, il est dit que

Et je ne comprends pas pourquoi vous évoquez l'espace au-delà de la barrière, car englober la réalité ne donne pas de BDE. Or, BDE parle d'existences sans dimensions, et ne s'appliquerait donc qu'au vide. Ce dernier ne répondrait donc pas à la deuxième partie du critère. De plus, il ne s'applique qu'à un sujet singulier, et non à plusieurs sujets. Autrement dit, quelque chose est vide ou non. Il n'y a pas d'entre-deux. Ainsi, l'espace au-delà de la barrière ne serait pas un vide (au sens absolu) à moins que vous ne le prouviez (ce qui est peut-être déjà contredit, puisque vous avez affirmé qu'il s'agit d'un espace), et donc BDE ne s'y applique pas.
tandis que le vide dont vous parlez réellement ne s'étend nulle part

When I talk about space, it is I who define it that way, but it is not a space; it is described as a darkness containing countless spheres of immaculate white, some gray and others black. Later, in God of the Heavenly Sword, this darkness is called the “infinite world” and the “supreme realm.”

Tu as clairement parlé aux mauvaises personnes. Ça ne répond à aucun critère. Sur la base de ce message, je te suggère de réviser pour savoir comment vraiment être admissible à la classe 1-A.

Personally, I'm stopping here. I can see it's hopeless, so I'm not going to bother any more than that. I have to go to bed because I have to work tomorrow. All the best.

 

[Vesxpura]

Personally, I'm stopping here. I can see it's hopeless, so I'm not going to bother any more than that. I have to go to bed because I have to work tomorrow. All the best.

Ill respond to this sometime tomorrow