In-Betweener Profile Overhaul (Marvel Abstracts)

[Da3ggman]

Old stinky:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_In-Betweener?so=search#Universal_In-Betweener_(M-Body)

New shiny:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Da3ggman/In-Betweener#Normal

Seems pretty self exemplary, just updated The In-Betweener's profile to be...actually good and stuff.

What's changed:

• Added more renders to his appearances, including his modern, old, and redesign in the current run of G.O.D.S.
• Added a new key for when he Acquired the Soul Gem (Infinity Stone), which he had for a sufficient amount of time (July 1988 - September 1990), as well as all of its adjacent abilities.
• Added a few new abilities and added justifications for ones that lacked them, listed below:

New Justifications:

• Telekinesis (Was able to lift Longshot in the air[20]. His Order Half was able to throw The Avengers back telekinetically[18].)
• Space-Time Manipulation, Matter Manipulation (His existence divides the "then" from the "now," as well as the "here" from the "there."[17]Possesses unlimited control over time, space, and matter [18].)
• Absorption (Absorbed the Braak'nhüd into himself[21].)
• Fusionism (Fused with the Soul Gem [2].)
• Energy Manipulation (Can fire blasts of energy[1].)
• BFR (Trapped Doctor Strange between levels of reality[12]. Can take people into his dimension just by touching them. [10])
• Illusion Creation (His realm is one between reality and illusion [19].)

New Abilities:

• Size Manipulation (Is the duality of "huge" and "small", and thus can choose to be any size he wants [2].)
• Non-Physical Interaction (His Chaos half was able to interact and damage Vision, despite the latter turning intangible[18].)
• Durability Negation (Can use the opposite energy of his opponent, allowing him to kill them instantly[1].)
• Aura, Light Manipulation (Can make an aura of green light around him[23].)
• Possession (Possessed Reed Richards[2].)
• Soul Manipulation (Stole and used the souls of both Reed Richards and Susan Storm[2].)
• Dimensional Travel (Could take Doctor Strange into another dimension, which the former could not reach on his own [10].)
• Nonexistent Physiology (Types 2, 3, and All Aspects; Describes himself as being both everything and nothing,[5]and simultaneously as being untouched by either concept[1])
• Magic (Sorcerer Supreme level Magic and Resistance; Easily turned Doctor Strange's spell against him. Used his power to help The Creator's make The Wheel of Change[13]. Laughed off Doctor Strange's attempts at harming him[12], with the latter having to summon Lord Chaos and Master Order to defeat him.)

Anyway yeah, that's all.

Agree: @Excellence616, @Suigetsuhyugs, @Antvasima, @Eseseso, @DarkDragonMedeus
Disagree:

 

[Excellence616]

Great work. I agree

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

• Power Nullification (His Chaos half was able to interact and damage Vision, despite the latter turning intangible[18].)

This seems more like NPI than actually Power null since he is not stopping vision from going intangible but damaging him despite being intangible.

• Magic (Used his power to help The Creator's make The Wheel of Change[19].)

Don't think there is any point in adding this since there is already a thread to add magic to this profile and it's marvel magic so it's much more powerful than normal magic.

• Aura, Light Manipulation (Can make an aura of green light around him[23].)

 

[Da3ggman]

This seems more like NPI than actually Power null since he is not stopping vision from going intangible but damaging him despite being intangible.

Fair; I was actually switching between it being Power Null or NP. Regardless, it's a simple change.

Don't think there is any point in adding this since there is already a thread to add magic to this profile and it's marvel magic so it's much more powerful than normal magic.

It's more so just there until that thread goes through and fulfilled. Once it does, the change would just be linking to the Marvel Magic page rather than the general one, since they both have the same justification. No harm in keeping it as a placeholder, right?

Also, I agree about adding Aura along with the Light Manipulation.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

It's more so just there until that thread goes through and fulfilled. Once it does, the change would just be linking to the Marvel Magic page rather than the general one, since they both have the same justification. No harm in keeping it as a placeholder, right?

The magic thread was already accepted it just gonna take some time to apply to all the characters, while this one doesn't have any staff support so I think it's more likely that Marvel Magic it's done before this can be applied, also it's not just a link since there are levels to Marvel's magic

In-Betweener​

• High-Level Sorcerer (Gave a group of sorcerers, including the already skilled magician Stygyro, a large amplification to their magic power, allowing them to create the Wheel of Change)
• Immunity to Magic at the Sorcerer Supreme level (Laughed off all of Doctor Strange's magic attacks, and was only defeated when Strange summoned Lord Chaos and Master Order to overpower him)

Right now that's what it's gonna be added to his profile.

 

[Da3ggman]

The magic thread was already accepted it just gonna take some time to apply to all the characters, while this one doesn't have any staff support so I think it's more likely that Marvel Magic it's done before this can be applied, also it's not just a link since there are levels to Marvel's magic


Right now that's what it's gonna be added to his profile.

All fair points, honestly; I've removed it from my blog.

Is there anything else you have a contention with?

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

All fair points, honestly; I've removed it from my blog.

Is there anything else you have a contention with?

No, I don't think so

 

[Eseseso]

Looks fine, and for Magic you can put him down as a High Tier Sorcerer, like I did here.

You can also give him resistance to Sorcerer Supreme level Sorcery, as Strange's hax did absolutely nothing to him and he needed to use Chaos and Order to overpower him through raw strength (plus the fact that they created him).

 

[Antvasima]

This seems fine to me at least.

 

[Da3ggman]

Looks fine, and for Magic you can put him down as a High Tier Sorcerer, like I did here.

You can also give him resistance to Sorcerer Supreme level Sorcery, as Strange's hax did absolutely nothing to him and he needed to use Chaos and Order to overpower him through raw strength (plus the fact that they created him).

It is done. Oh yeah, I forgot to bring this up in the main thread, but would The-Inbetweener get to Sorcerer Supreme level magic through being easily able to take control of Doctor Strange's spell, and turn it into something else to counter it?

(Also congrats on getting it accepted!)

This seems fine to me at least.

Counted, as well as all the other votes so far.

 

[Eseseso]

It is done. Oh yeah, I forgot to bring this up in the main thread, but would The-Inbetweener get to Sorcerer Supreme level magic through being easily able to take control of Doctor Strange's spell, and turn it into something else to counter it?

That makes sense.

(Also congrats on getting it accepted!)

Thanks!

 

[Eseseso]

Is it possible that the In-Betweener's NEP (both Nature 2 and 3) could be expanded to include aspects 4 and 5?

The statements for NEP seem to cover a wide enough basis to include all aspects.

 

[Da3ggman]

Is it possible that the In-Betweener's NEP (both Nature 2 and 3) could be expanded to include aspects 4 and 5?

The statements for NEP seem to cover a wide enough basis to include all aspects.

He definitely should have aspect 4, but I'm not sure what statements could qualify one as such. As in like, what words would one use in order to describe something like information? One thing that may qualify is him being beyond logic, perhaps.

Aspect 5 is actually pretty easy, since he divides the concepts of Past and Future; and because of the concepts he divides touch him, he shouldn't have either.

 

[Eseseso]

He definitely should have aspect 4, but I'm not sure what statements could qualify one as such. As in like, what words would one use in order to describe something like information? One thing that may qualify is him being beyond logic, perhaps.

Aspect 5 is actually pretty easy, since he divides the concepts of Past and Future; and because of the concepts he divides touch him, he shouldn't have either.

I've seen for other profiles that sometimes general statements can give all aspects unless context proves otherwise.

 

[Antvasima]

Should we include the recent redesign for the In-Betweener, or wait to see if it sticks for a prolonged period of time first? He has been redesigned previously, and that did not stick, and we would have to use the "GODS" redesigns for the other cosmic entities as well.

 

[Da3ggman]

I've seen for other profiles that sometimes general statements can give all aspects unless context proves otherwise.

In that case, he absolutely should have all of them, since literally every time he explains his existence, it's always every single thing.

Should we include the recent redesign for the In-Betweener, or wait to see if it sticks for a prolonged period of time first? He has been redesigned previously, and that did not stick, and we would have to use the "GODS" redesigns for the other cosmic entities as well.

Tbh I mostly just included it for completion sake, but I can take it out if you think it best (I plan on revising all the abstracts in a similar way to this, so you wouldn't have to worry about them not including their redesigns).

 

[Eseseso]

In that case, he absolutely should have all of them, since literally every time he explains his existence, it's always every single thing.

You should probably make sure staff agree with NEP additions in the new profile, though.

 

[Da3ggman]

You should probably make sure staff agree with NEP additions in the new profile, though.

I've added it to the blog and the CRT, and I agree that that is probably the best course of action.

Should we include the recent redesign for the In-Betweener, or wait to see if it sticks for a prolonged period of time first? He has been redesigned previously, and that did not stick, and we would have to use the "GODS" redesigns for the other cosmic entities as well.

Is it possible that the In-Betweener's NEP (both Nature 2 and 3) could be expanded to include aspects 4 and 5?

The statements for NEP seem to cover a wide enough basis to include all aspects.

Sorry to call on you once again Ant, but do you think about this?

 

[Eseseso]

I've added it to the blog and the CRT, and I agree that that is probably the best course of action.


Sorry to call on you once again Ant, but do you think about this?

Wait, it's still just types 2 and 3 of NEP, no Type 1. Just noticed that in your sandbox.

 

[Da3ggman]

Wait, it's still just types 2 and 3 of NEP, no Type 1. Just noticed that in your sandbox.

Really? Weird, it shows that I said all types on my screen; might just be a FANDOM thing lol.

 

[Eseseso]

Really? Weird, it shows that I said all types on my screen; might just be a FANDOM thing lol.

No, what I mean is that it shouldn't be all types of NEP, just types 2 and 3 like before, but with all aspects.

 

[Da3ggman]

No, what I mean is that it shouldn't be all types of NEP, just types 2 and 3 like before, but with all aspects.

Oh, my bad dude! I’m on mobile rn, so I’ll fix it in a few when I get back from a football game.

 

[Da3ggman]

No, what I mean is that it shouldn't be all types of NEP, just types 2 and 3 like before, but with all aspects.

K, it's been fixed. Thanks for pointing that out!

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks good but I also agree with what Suigetsuhyugs has said.

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[Da3ggman]

Looks good but I also agree with what Suigetsuhyugs has said.

All of his suggestions have been applied, so I'll put you down as agree.

Aaaaaand I think that's grace? I mean, this doesn't seem like a controversial change, at the very least.

 

[Antvasima]

Sorry to call on you once again Ant, but do you think about this?

It isn't really my area, unless I spend some time refreshing my memory, and my available time is very limited. My apologies.

 

[Da3ggman]

It isn't really my area, unless I spend some time refreshing my memory, and my available time is very limited. My apologies.

Perfectly understandable, mate! Don't worry about it!

 

[Da3ggman]

Bump, unless this can now be applied? Idk, this my first real Marvel revision, so I wanna make sure I don't break any rules around it.

 

[Excellence616]

Bump, unless this can now be applied? Idk, this my first real Marvel revision, so I wanna make sure I don't break any rules around it.

Just one staff to go since It's not an upgrade

 

[Da3ggman]

Just one staff to go since It's not an upgrade

Nice! I'll get someone to unlock it.