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This one will be short and sweet (I hope).
While working on the Speed revisions and the Chakra blog, I thought what the hell? Might as well fix a mistake I made a while back that has been bothering me for some time now.
The Error in Question:
So, the Clone Technique is currently indexed as follows:
Now, this is NOT what the Clone Technique does. This technique very explicitly does NOT produce real clones or legitimately duplicates the original. It merely creates an illusion that has no physical form nor substance. It's nothing more than an illusion or an afterimage.
The Shadow Clone technique (and its variants, such as the Raiton, Suiton, Doton, etc clones) on the other hands were actually noted to be true, flesh and blood clones that are identical to the original.
This distinction has been noted in the series on a number of occasions, and with an abundance of clarity. Here's the rundown of said instances:
Well, I've thought about this a lot. We already know it's definitely NOT Duplication.
The first thing that popped in my head was Afterimage Creation, but after much deliberation, I came to the conclusion that it's not very accurate. Why? Well....
I believe that under our standards, Illusion Creation fits this ability the most.
Now, yes, this technique is a Ninjutsu, not a Genjutsu. However, that doesn't change the fact that it's still the ability that fits how the technique actually works the most. Illusion Creation is described as follows:
Conclusions:
So here's what I propose we do.
All of the profiles that have this, which is practically all of them:
But that's not all. Some of the profiles have the justification(s) for their actual cloning technique(s) merged with the Clone Technique justification. For example.....
I propose that they be separated moving forward, with the description/justification for Shadow Clones being something like this:
We don't have to add this to everyone just yet, since the profiles are in the process of being revised atm. The only ones that should definitely get this change immediately are the profiles that have already been overhauled, such as Itachi, Shino, Kisame, and Jiraiya. So, basically, ya'll should keep this in mind if you're doing a profile overhaul at any point in the future.
The main thing that needs to be done here for damn near everyone is adjusting the Clone Technique. True Clone Techniques can be adjusted gradually as we revise the individual profiles.
Here's a sandbox with the source code for these changes, in case anyone wants to just copy paste this stuff for their revisions.
And that's about it, really. Let's discuss!
Votes:
Agree: DarkDragonMedeus, Damage3245, LordGriffin1000, Kachon123, KaydeeX, Nierre, Metalballrun, Arcker123, Dark_Soul20189, Shiraito983, Spectra_Schiffer, LordTracer
Disagree:
Neutral:
This one will be short and sweet (I hope).
While working on the Speed revisions and the Chakra blog, I thought what the hell? Might as well fix a mistake I made a while back that has been bothering me for some time now.
The Error in Question:
So, the Clone Technique is currently indexed as follows:
This is just wrong. Our Duplication page makes it pretty clear that to get this ability you need to actually duplicate something, as in you have to produce an actual identical copy of something. The original object has to be replicated or multiplied.
Now, this is NOT what the Clone Technique does. This technique very explicitly does NOT produce real clones or legitimately duplicates the original. It merely creates an illusion that has no physical form nor substance. It's nothing more than an illusion or an afterimage.
The Shadow Clone technique (and its variants, such as the Raiton, Suiton, Doton, etc clones) on the other hands were actually noted to be true, flesh and blood clones that are identical to the original.
This distinction has been noted in the series on a number of occasions, and with an abundance of clarity. Here's the rundown of said instances:
- The Clone Technique has been described as a technique that produces "afterimages" with no physical substance. (Rin no Sho, Page 220)
- The Clone Technique produces "shadowy illusions", unlike the Shadow Clone technique which produces actual flesh-and-blood replicas of the original. (Naruto chapter 1)
- The Shadow Clones produce "solid", "flesh-and-blood bodies", unlike the Clone Technique, which produces mere "illusions". (Naruto chapter 5)
- The Clone Technique doesn't produce anything "solid", and are merely a "bluff". (Naruto chapter 33)
- The Shadow Clone technique creates a "true copy of something". What makes it different from the normal Clone Technique is that it creates a clone with substance, making them able to perform physical attacks. (Rin no Sho, Page 170)
- The Shadow Clone Jutsu creates actual copies, not "illusions" like the Clone Technique. (Naruto chapter 315)
Well, I've thought about this a lot. We already know it's definitely NOT Duplication.
The first thing that popped in my head was Afterimage Creation, but after much deliberation, I came to the conclusion that it's not very accurate. Why? Well....
Our page for Afterimage Creation makes it very clear that the way we treat this ability is as a byproduct of very fast movement. The Naruto equivalent would be, say Rock Lee or the Raikage. It's a byproduct of extreme speed. As a result, this doesn't really fit the Clone Technique, and it does not qualify for Afterimage Creation under our standards.
I believe that under our standards, Illusion Creation fits this ability the most.
Now, yes, this technique is a Ninjutsu, not a Genjutsu. However, that doesn't change the fact that it's still the ability that fits how the technique actually works the most. Illusion Creation is described as follows:
The highlighted parts fit the Clone Technique perfectly. They are just illusory clones, with no real substance, that achieve nothing beyond distracting or bluffing the opponents. Combine that with the series going out of its way on many occasions to differentiate between this technique and actual cloning techniques, and I feel like it's a pretty clear cut conclusion.
Conclusions:
So here's what I propose we do.
All of the profiles that have this, which is practically all of them:
Get changed to this:
But that's not all. Some of the profiles have the justification(s) for their actual cloning technique(s) merged with the Clone Technique justification. For example.....
I propose that they be separated moving forward, with the description/justification for Shadow Clones being something like this:
We don't have to add this to everyone just yet, since the profiles are in the process of being revised atm. The only ones that should definitely get this change immediately are the profiles that have already been overhauled, such as Itachi, Shino, Kisame, and Jiraiya. So, basically, ya'll should keep this in mind if you're doing a profile overhaul at any point in the future.
The main thing that needs to be done here for damn near everyone is adjusting the Clone Technique. True Clone Techniques can be adjusted gradually as we revise the individual profiles.
Here's a sandbox with the source code for these changes, in case anyone wants to just copy paste this stuff for their revisions.
And that's about it, really. Let's discuss!
Votes:
Agree: DarkDragonMedeus, Damage3245, LordGriffin1000, Kachon123, KaydeeX, Nierre, Metalballrun, Arcker123, Dark_Soul20189, Shiraito983, Spectra_Schiffer, LordTracer
Disagree:
Neutral:
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