Ike vs Sonic (1/1/0)

[Coolboy6]

Both low 7-B, speed equalized.
I fight for my friends: 1

Strange, isn’t it?: 1

Ike is 1.39 MGT

Sonic is 4.69 MGT

a roughly 3.4x advantage for Sonic

 

[DaReaperMan]

I think Ike has a skill advantage and... that's basically it. Sonic's got basically everything else.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Ike hasn't been exactly updated, but....

Ike, in Path of Radiance, scales to an amped Ashnard, who was capable of frightening Naesala (even in base), who should scale above most laguz (who should scale above most Beorc/1.39)

In Radiant Dawn, Ike scales even more massively above his PoR self, being equal to Zelgius, who's far stronger than Ike was in the previous game

The AP gap is a lot closer than 3.4x, Ike also has an increase to Durability while using Ragnell. Ike is also as strong as, and has the same hax (albeit without a x5 AP amp on his dura neg) as Zelgius does. Aether, which is a technique combining the skills Sol and Luna (in that order, of course), heals Ike (while dealing 3x damage) and then negates Sonic's durability.

Ike landing Aether even once should give him the win, which is reasonable given that he outskills

 

[Coolboy6]

Counted

 

[ElixirBlue]

Oh my god, sorry, I've been keeping busy and missed this.

The AP gap is a lot closer than 3.4x, Ike also has an increase to Durability while using Ragnell. Ike is also as strong as, and has the same hax (albeit without a x5 AP amp on his dura neg) as Zelgius does. Aether, which is a technique combining the skills Sol and Luna (in that order, of course), heals Ike (while dealing 3x damage) and then negates Sonic's durability.

Ike landing Aether even once should give him the win, which is reasonable given that he outskills

If he can catch Sonic.

There are more going for Sonic in the AP department. Sonic can stat increase his AP with the Spin Attack. Sonic's base AP was tanked on Metal Robotnik's shell and the recoil hurt himself. Sonic later shoot himself through Metal Robotnik's shell and cut him in half with the Spin Attack.

As for Ike trying to catch Sonic, Sonic has tricks to overcome the Speed Equalization.

Sonic have use Afterimages to trick Metal Sonic, who has the same speed as Sonic and was even catching up to Sonic using a Speed Amp.

And on the Ground, Sonic can... (looking at Ike's speed calc to make sure Sonic's calc is higher) can increase his speed to give himself the speed advantage in the fight.

There is also the Mobility Advantage Sonic has over Ike, being a skilled Acrobatic and can fly. (Sonic's smaller size, while not listed on the profile as of yet, ontop of everything else, gives Ike a harder time hitting Sonic with the swings of his sword)

Voting for Sonic the Hedgehog

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

I mean, it was decided that Nihil could probably just null Sonic's speed amps in the other thread, that's part of why I brought up that Ike literally has the same hax

 

[ElixirBlue]

I mean, it was decided that Nihil could probably just null Sonic's speed amps in the other thread, that's part of why I brought up that Ike literally has the same hax

:v I remember now. I still forget the details, does Ike need to touch Sonic for that?

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

No, it's passive

 

[ElixirBlue]

Is there an area of effect or can no one in the verse increase their speed stats?

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

It's not exactly AoE, but it "activates" whenever the user is targeted (you could, for example, be fighting someone next to Ike and still activate your abilities)

Range should be comparable to siege tomes, iirc ("hundreds of meters")

 

[ElixirBlue]

Ok... I'm not giving up on this just yet, could it... work on Sonic, if Sonic's Amp allows him to blitz his pervious speed?

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

I mean, if we have reason to believe he can activate it at all. Pretty sure he needs to resist Power Null

 

[DaReaperMan]

So Ike beats the furry lol

 

[ElixirBlue]

So Ike beats the furry lol

Nope nope! This is just about Sonic's speed amps.

I mean, if we have reason to believe he can activate it at all. Pretty sure he needs to resist Power Null

Right, passive when Ike "focuses" on his target.

What about the other points in Sonic's favor?

 

[ElixirBlue]

Ah, Coolboy, could you put up my vote for Sonic?

 

[Coolboy6]

Ah, Coolboy, could you put up my vote for Sonic?

Counted

 

[ElixirBlue]

bump

 

[ElixirBlue]

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