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The note should stay. He is a controversial character enough, and it would serve as a remainder in order to prevent situations like these in the future.
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If this point is the case, it is pretty cool.Andytrenom said:Actually I am talking about what was decided on Sera's thread
You are right about the first part. The second part kinda misses the case. The fact that he erases someone from the totality of the past is what makes it different from most other haxDontTalkDT said:Kumagawa's All Fiction fundamentally erases things by erasing their cause and effect. With one exception anything he does is really as much 4D and potency appliciable as causing time paradoxes.
The only thing that could potentially be seen as 4D potency is him erasing like 10 seconds of time related to the events happening in a hallway.
If we give Iihiko 4D power null for negating that I petition to upgrade the White Quee to High 3-A for being able to damage barriers that can endure her spacetime erasing attacks, which can erase spacetime for several seconds of entire planets to galaxies.
But to be serious, we treat small scale spacetime abilities as hax, meaning exactly that we don't scale stuff to High 3-A potency from them. And Kumagawa's ability is small scale.
So have the changes gone through then?Andytrenom said:Affecting timespace on a scale below universal isn't going to be High 3-A anymore and it's not going to be low 2-C either. Only feats of affecting a time space continuum in its entirety or having explicit transcendence over 3-Ds will count as low 2-C
This scenario isn't going to be tierable
That's already in the Power Null page. Iihiko is just a power null user, we don't add that note on every power null user.Ogbunabali said:The note should stay. He is a controversial character enough, and it would serve as a remainder in order to prevent situations like these in the future.
My dude. That note is basically saying what the PN page already says. Dont treat Iihiko differently.Andytrenom said:Not every PN user. Some target the general features of a certain group of ability users, not the ability itself.
It's not we that treat Iihiko differently, it's the MB supporters that treat his null differently. That note would be just a reminder that Iihiko isn't an exception to the rules.PaChi2 said:That Note is useless as its basically what every PN user should be assumed to have.
Treating Iihiko differently is some clear bias against MB.
Right now he can. When High 3-A gets changed he won't be able to.GLHF22 said:why we should remove it? is he can null every 3D hax regardless of potency?
smhOgbunabali said:It's not we that treat Iihiko differently, it's the MB supporters that treat his null differently. That note would be just a reminder that Iihiko isn't an exception to the rules.
No. Like, hell, no.Ogbunabali said:It's not we that treat Iihiko differently, it's the MB supporters that treat his null differently. That note would be just a reminder that Iihiko isn't an exception to the rules.PaChi2 said:That Note is useless as its basically what every PN user should be assumed to have.
Treating Iihiko differently is some clear bias against MB.
I did.PaChi2 said:No. Like, hell, no.
If the MB supporters treat Iihiko differently just link the freaking PN page every time they say that.
The note is unnecesary.
ExactlyPaChi2 said:I dont care if Iihiko nulls 4D hax, 5D hax, InfiniteD hax. What I care about is that we dont show any bias against Medaka Box like we dont do with the rest of the verses. And the note is screaming bias.
If the supporters blatantly refuse to acknowledge and ignore what the PN page says, the match is invalid and wont get added.
Maybe because of this ?Ogbunabali said:Well since Medaka Box's wank has been getting out of control lately.
Yep.Andytrenom said:Should I just remove the note then?
It'd be most appreciated.Andytrenom said:Should I just remove the note then?
everyone can read the PN page that is already linked in his profile. Why do you need an extra note?GLHF22 said:Maybe because of this ?Ogbunabali said:Well since Medaka Box's wank has been getting out of control lately.
Power NullificationOgbunabali said:I disagree with removing the note. It just allows MB supporters the excuse to claim his ability works in ways it doesn't.
I don't it was out bias but fair points regarding the others. I am fine with the note removal which @Andy did.PaChi2 said:I dont care if Iihiko nulls 4D hax, 5D hax, InfiniteD hax. What I care about is that we dont show any bias against Medaka Box like we dont do with the rest of the verses. And the note is screaming bias.
If the supporters blatantly refuse to acknowledge and ignore what the PN page says, the match is invalid and wont get added.