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The note should stay. He is a controversial character enough, and it would serve as a remainder in order to prevent situations like these in the future.
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Iihiko's "infinite" nullification
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Since I think this was concluded, I guess it can be closed.
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You are right about the first part. The second part kinda misses the case. The fact that he erases someone from the totality of the past is what makes it different from most other haxDontTalkDT said:
So is that agreement then?
Well, how do her spacetime erasing attacks work? are they a single moment of spacetime or are they a full span of time that they erase? If it is the latter (and there isn't more context that would disqualify her) then she probably should be considered to have High 3-A hax
They are hax, but they are High 3-A hax, which is what we are potitioning
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So have the changes gone through then?Andytrenom said:
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On a side topic, A note was actually supposed to be added to Iihiko's profile a while ago that I guess we can add now. It was supposed to be about avoiding putting him in VS matches where his abilities are called NLF on, since they cause so much chaos
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That's already in the Power Null page. Iihiko is just a power null user, we don't add that note on every power null user.Ogbunabali said:
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Not every PN user. Some target the general features of a certain group of ability users, not the ability itself.
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It's not we that treat Iihiko differently, it's the MB supporters that treat his null differently. That note would be just a reminder that Iihiko isn't an exception to the rules.PaChi2 said:
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Right now he can. When High 3-A gets changed he won't be able to.GLHF22 said:
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smhOgbunabali said:
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I did.PaChi2 said:
Multiple times.
You still do.
At least like this you won't.
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I think I agree, there hardly seems to be a reason to reiterate what the power page already says on a specific character's profile
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Wew, the way of this thread was ridiculous.
I love how in this thread, people act like if in versus in general, characters with power Null doesn't Null every ability of the opponents, in most of the threads with a power Null characters i've seen, it always treated as being able to Null every other ability of the opponent (Like Arceus and his Plate Power Null, Yhwach's Almighty ect...) But, in this case, no? i don't talk about the potency of the ability he can null, but how PNull is treated in general in vsb, that why i find pretty ridiculous the add of the Description to Iihko's page (which as been added without any reason since the discussion was still on), Iihko's Pnull is just 4-D in hax, not in AP, that's mean he can Null hax up to 4-D, nothing less, nothing more.
In the Medaka box side, 4-D not necessarly mean Low 2-C, i was one of the guys who argued about the removal of the "High 3-A = Limited 4-D", Kuma 's time erasure is 4-D but only and purely hax, not AP
About @OP, i don't get the attitude of directly call everything you aren't agree wank when it can still be argued and true, it ruins your argumental credibility throught the thread and end to just add hostility, but i'll stop wasting time about this.
You are free to close this thread but i just find the way of this thread really ridiculous, i'am done.
I love how in this thread, people act like if in versus in general, characters with power Null doesn't Null every ability of the opponents, in most of the threads with a power Null characters i've seen, it always treated as being able to Null every other ability of the opponent (Like Arceus and his Plate Power Null, Yhwach's Almighty ect...) But, in this case, no? i don't talk about the potency of the ability he can null, but how PNull is treated in general in vsb, that why i find pretty ridiculous the add of the Description to Iihko's page (which as been added without any reason since the discussion was still on), Iihko's Pnull is just 4-D in hax, not in AP, that's mean he can Null hax up to 4-D, nothing less, nothing more.
In the Medaka box side, 4-D not necessarly mean Low 2-C, i was one of the guys who argued about the removal of the "High 3-A = Limited 4-D", Kuma 's time erasure is 4-D but only and purely hax, not AP
About @OP, i don't get the attitude of directly call everything you aren't agree wank when it can still be argued and true, it ruins your argumental credibility throught the thread and end to just add hostility, but i'll stop wasting time about this.
You are free to close this thread but i just find the way of this thread really ridiculous, i'am done.
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I dont care if Iihiko nulls 4D hax, 5D hax, InfiniteD hax. What I care about is that we dont show any bias against Medaka Box like we dont do with the rest of the verses. And the note is screaming bias.
If the supporters blatantly refuse to acknowledge and ignore what the PN page says, the match is invalid and wont get added.
If the supporters blatantly refuse to acknowledge and ignore what the PN page says, the match is invalid and wont get added.
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ExactlyPaChi2 said:
This description is completly unnecessary to me, you can add the exact same note to every Power Null user.
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Should I just remove the note then?
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Yep.Andytrenom said:
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@Andy Yes, it was added rather prematurely, it's better to remove it (for the moment if other people want to argue about it)
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I disagree with removing the note. It just allows MB supporters the excuse to claim his ability works in ways it doesn't.
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Power NullificationOgbunabali said:
This page is linked in Iihiko's profile.
Done.
"t would be a No Limits Fallacy to assume someone with this ability can nullify anything that falls within the phenomena their powers are made to counter. It is to be assumed that any negation power has its limitations based on the strongest thing it has nullified, and a character may be resistant to the ability (at least in one of its forms), preventing it from having its usual effects."
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Done
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Well well, if the note has been removed, my job is done.
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Well that was removed fast kek but I understand why so eh.
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