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In what way exactly?Hst master said:R1 Ichigo high diff his spritual pressure cancels out Naruto's hax
Not when there are 8 more Super Tailed Beast Rasenshuriken hurled at him from different directions.Hst master said:using his grand rey getsuga and jujisho should be able to counter TBB and rasenshurike
In tiers Ichigo is at least 5-C, likely higher. Naruto is only at least 5-C.Cropfist said:I'd like to point out that in round 2 Naruto is still much stronger at moon level+.
For what purpose exactly? It's a complete and utter stomp because of the speed difference.Blackout046 said:And -BLANK- you should keep round 2.
I believe Naruto can manage. He's shown to be even more resourceful than Sauske.ScarletFirefly said:For what purpose exactly? It's a complete and utter stomp because of the speed difference.Blackout046 said:And -BLANK- you should keep round 2.
I did mention before to read this thread.Uchihazinon said:Can someone please explain to me how Ichigo has moon level attack power?
Ichigo is Sub-Rev+, 5% of SoL. That's ~Mach 44000.Gemmysaur said:R2 should be removed. Naruto's top tiers are Mach 3000+ while Sub-rel starts at Mach 8800+ and Ichigo is Sub-rel+. Too blitzy.
Okay so Ichigo is at least 15x faster. No big deal. Though niether Ichigo or Naruto are bloodlusted so this gives Naruto a chance to make thousands of shadow clones and evade Ichigo for a bit. As long as Ichigo doesn't have a good reason to fight Naruto, he'll pull his attacks at first.ScarletFirefly said:^^Manage? Are you serious? The moment Naruto tries to move, his head comes clean off. The difference in speed is enourmous.
I said...ScarletFirefly said:Ichigo is Sub-Rev+, 5% of SoL. That's ~Mach 44000.
Don't you mean Naruto?HokageMangaVox said:so he will parry anything Sasuke throughts at him, with speed equalize.
Exactly. We don't truely know Ichigo's bankai because of the rushed ending, so if Naruto wins here it'll truely be based on assumption and NOT accuracy. But there is no other way.Sword guy Z said:He actually has usable feats, unlike Ichigo. I wish we saw his bankai, I bet he would have been classified as stronger than Naruto.
Yes, that. I copy & paste from my sasuke thread.Blackout046 said:Don't you mean Naruto?HokageMangaVox said:so he will parry anything Sasuke throughts at him, with speed equalize.
His true power was Merged Hollow + Bankai + Quincy powers. But Yhwach stole his hollow and quincy powers depowering Ichigo to only bankai. His full power was greater than Yhwach's, that's why he fear him.Blackout046 said:Exactly. We don't truely know Ichigo's bankai because of the rushed ending, so if Naruto wins here it'll truely be based on assumption and NOT accuracy. But there is no other way.Sword guy Z said:He actually has usable feats, unlike Ichigo. I wish we saw his bankai, I bet he would have been classified as stronger than Naruto.
Disrupting his future sight, (hax) has nothing to do with his AP or durability. Yhwach already said, Ichigo was a threat. No they couldn't Ichibei tried and got buried. Are you implying that if Aizen puts Thanos under KS, Chad can kill him? lol The black comment above, contraditcs your argument, and he breaks everything because that's his power, wouldn't Madara do the same to the weapons that were brought to seal him, during the war. Yhwach lost his powers, it was never mention that his lost his durability or AP. He reacted and thought about it, he also caught the sword with his hand .Uchihazinon said:So are you saying that Ichigo has moon level swings just because he cut Yhwach in half when he was still under the ks or lost his power for an instant because of the arrow. Firstly the first time Ichigo cut Yhwach in half Aizen with his ks gave Ichigo an opening for him to get a clean hit on Yhwach. If anyone else had a clean shot they could have done the same thing. I mean come on Yhwach is not invulnerable to most attacks like someone like for example superman is. That's why he uses his almighty ability otherwise if he was invulnerable he would not even have to use that ability. I mean come on he even had plans to even break Renji's bankai. The second time was due to the plot because Yhwach destroyed the first layer of ichigo's sword before he was cut. Yhwach reacted but did not stop the sword.
That's actually interesting to know. So Ichigo has the potential to be at least 5-B likely far higher given the time. According to your statement.HokageMangaVox said:His true power was Merged Hollow + Bankai + Quincy powers. But Yhwach stole his hollow and quincy powers depowering Ichigo to only bankai. His full power was greater than Yhwach's, that's why he fear him.
Possibly, since when Ichigo went all out, he stated that he hadn't master that form yet, and Yhwach still said that he fear it, even with all of his powers. But we will never know since Yhwach broke him out of the form before he had a chance to attack, and steal his powers away.Blackout046 said:That's actually interesting to know. So Ichigo has the potential to be at least 5-B likely far higher given the time. According to your statement.HokageMangaVox said:His true power was Merged Hollow + Bankai + Quincy powers. But Yhwach stole his hollow and quincy powers depowering Ichigo to only bankai. His full power was greater than Yhwach's, that's why he fear him.