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If it was before Najenda could even react, IMO that should greatly increase the speed.
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ICE QUEEN GOES NUT (Akame Ga kill becomes Planetary)
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PrinceofPein
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I am thinking since Najenda is MHS+ at that moment and she was a few meters (let's say 10meters) to Esdeath when she started the attack. And she was shown to react after the feat is done. We can lowball the speed to use a superhuman reaction speed or normal human to find the speed of the storm creation
Sorry to disturb you again.
can you create another blog, using the same method and calc but just changing the speed to what is above?
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Najenda is Hypersonic+ right now.
PrinceofPein
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Right now she is, I will make a thread later to fix that though
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If you could re-adjust your calc to account for Najenda's speed, I would greatly appreciate it.
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Baseline superhuman reaction speed then?
PrinceofPein
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yes
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Maybe call Migue or M3X to see if they think it makes sense. Considering 1 second timeframe got it to moon level, using a smaller timeframe (and thus a higher speed) than that will be even higher.
PrinceofPein
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She does not scale to it, she scales to a fraction of it, so it makes sense.
Whatever the value is we divide it by 158, that is what she scales to. The attack itself is what she can only do when she is in ISCIC mode and no one scales to her in that mode
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Najenda did say that Esdeath could "attack this very world and its lands" in chapter 75.
Besides, Esdeath only scales to 63/10000 of the feat usually.
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I guess it makes sense then. That'd put CiC at ~59 exatons and base Esdeath at 373-ish petatons.
Stuff like that is usually calc stacking. In stuff like this you have to make logical assumptions. Let's say Najenda scaled to Tatsumi who has actually dodged lightning, then I could use baseline MHS+ reaction and it makes sense. If there isn't any logical baseline that I can use (that doesn't involve another calculation), then it won't be valid.
PrinceofPein
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Well Najenda actually scales to the cast who can dodge lightning, but that itself is a calc, since they got their MHS+ from calculating the lightning that was dodged. Is that still calc stacking?
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If you use the result of a previous calc (exceptions being sizes of locations and such), it's stacking. However if the cast is officially lightning timers you can use baseline MHS+ since that's how fast lightning is.
PrinceofPein
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Yes they are officially lightning timers, since they can dodge tens of lightning that are like 30 meters above the ground
I can provide scans and the likes, this calc should be done in a new blog
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Scans would be nice, yeah. I'll just format it exactly the same way and then justify why the timeframe was used.
PrinceofPein
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This is from chapter 55
The clouds of the lightning was directly above the stadium, Tatsumi could dodge the lightning and show up behind Budo without him realizing it.
Multiple lightning strikes, it is random I think but they dodged it regardless.
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It is used. My blog has already been accepted by 2 CGMs.
@PrinceofPein So I've just redone it with rough math, if you use baseline MHS+ reaction speed it ends up being High 5-A. I don't think there's any need, I think it can be applied as is.
PrinceofPein
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High 5-A Tatsumi? that turned me on.
Edit: it is an outlier though, since nothing else comes close aside Esdeath planetary statement and that is a far cry from High 5-A
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Can't we just use peak superhuman speed if you think MHS+ is too high?
And Najenda did say Esdeath could "attack the very world and it's lands" so a tier 5 result is fine IMO.
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He'd only possibly scale to 63/10000 of that, and even then that's only a "possibly".
Besides, if anyone would be turned on by that it'd be Esdeath.
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Using peak superhuman reaction time puts CiC at just over baseline Low 5-B.
PrinceofPein
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That is a good lowball of the feat
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Ok, let's use that, then.
And since Najenda is Hypersonic+, not MHS+, we wouldn't even use MHS+ for her speed if we high-balled.
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No, the anime never showed it.
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I guess for something that's explicitly stated to destroy the world, it makes sense for it to be anywhere from Multi-Continent to baseline Planet. I'll upload the scans to a separate website (I don't have an imgur account and they're "temporarily over capacity") and re-do the blog in a bit.
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Well that's what happens when the AgK anime chops the manga story up into pieces.
Fight animation was dope, tho.
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I mean, the KE is gonna be much higher once the calc takes the above-mentioned superhuman speed stuff into account.
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@PrinceofPein Do you have the scan of where CiC was stated to be able to destroy the world? Not like it needs more evidence than literally being visible from space over a continent and happening in a fraction of a second but any is nice.
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can you use imgur?
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Imgur/Catbox link would be nice, it doesn't work. Also, can I get the source on Esdeath being equal to 63 of her soldiers?
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I remember that she made 63 casually, lemme try to find the scan.
Either way, we should save the scaling for a CRT, this is mostly about the calc itself.
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A few panels/pages earlier, it is shown as something Esdeath made casually.
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I'm sorry but I don't have the patience to read through this entire thread but why are we using superhuman reaction time as the speed of the storm expansion?
