- 2,545
- 1,525
(First CRT done on phone, wasn’t too bad but never again)
Currently we have 23rd Budokai Goku be 2x King Piccolo Saga Goku in strength, based on this statement from Dragon Ball Forever:
"After receiving training from the g*ds, Goku nearly doubles his strength. When he stores up his Ki for the Kamehameha, this value rises to nearly 1,000!"
However this is not stating Goku’s growth from KP to the 23rd Budokai, but rather his growth from the 23rd Budokai to the Raditz Saga. Firstly the header translates to “Battle with Raditz”, the corresponding battle power is 416 the same battle power Raditz analyzed from Goku in their fight, and the “nearly 1,000!” with the kamehameha is also within their fight. This is pretty straightforward.
This means 23rd Budokai Goku is half the strength of his Raditz Saga self, for the manga this scales him to 11.0779158667 Zettatons (Low 5-B) and for Toei this scales him to 2.1075 Quettatons (High 5-A)
Them getting up into this tier is also 100% fine and consistent. 21st Budokai Max Power Roshi with the Kamehameha (Manga: 5-C. Toei: 5-B+) < Goku in the 22nd Budokai < Old Piccolo with half his power < Full power old Piccolo (Toei: 5-A) < Piccolo in his youth = Post-Super Holy Water Goku <<< Kami (literally finger flicked him) < a fatigued Piccolo Jr. (also stated to be several/many times stronger than King Piccolo) < young adult Goku (Manga: Low 5-B. Toei: High 5-A)
Goku and Piccolo Jr. will still be at least 5-B/5-A with weights
Only counting staff votes
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Neutral:
Currently we have 23rd Budokai Goku be 2x King Piccolo Saga Goku in strength, based on this statement from Dragon Ball Forever:
"After receiving training from the g*ds, Goku nearly doubles his strength. When he stores up his Ki for the Kamehameha, this value rises to nearly 1,000!"
However this is not stating Goku’s growth from KP to the 23rd Budokai, but rather his growth from the 23rd Budokai to the Raditz Saga. Firstly the header translates to “Battle with Raditz”, the corresponding battle power is 416 the same battle power Raditz analyzed from Goku in their fight, and the “nearly 1,000!” with the kamehameha is also within their fight. This is pretty straightforward.
This means 23rd Budokai Goku is half the strength of his Raditz Saga self, for the manga this scales him to 11.0779158667 Zettatons (Low 5-B) and for Toei this scales him to 2.1075 Quettatons (High 5-A)
Them getting up into this tier is also 100% fine and consistent. 21st Budokai Max Power Roshi with the Kamehameha (Manga: 5-C. Toei: 5-B+) < Goku in the 22nd Budokai < Old Piccolo with half his power < Full power old Piccolo (Toei: 5-A) < Piccolo in his youth = Post-Super Holy Water Goku <<< Kami (literally finger flicked him) < a fatigued Piccolo Jr. (also stated to be several/many times stronger than King Piccolo) < young adult Goku (Manga: Low 5-B. Toei: High 5-A)
Goku and Piccolo Jr. will still be at least 5-B/5-A with weights
Only counting staff votes
Agree:
Disagree:
Neutral:
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