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Hyper classic sonic vs golden Frieza
- Thread starter Pippom3la
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> Let's smash!
Care to rephrase that?
Care to rephrase that?
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Isn't Low 2-C Golden Frieza is almost 50 times current blue Goku? If so then he stomps
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Yeah he is.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Will bloodlusting them makes it any different?
After all, Hyper Sonic might be a stonewall, but he only scales to far above someone who stomped baseline, while Golden Frieza is at bare minimum (with extreme lowballing) 1000 times baseline. It's a strech to assume that Sonic's stonewall durability will protect him from someone who is hunderds of times stronger
After all, Hyper Sonic might be a stonewall, but he only scales to far above someone who stomped baseline, while Golden Frieza is at bare minimum (with extreme lowballing) 1000 times baseline. It's a strech to assume that Sonic's stonewall durability will protect him from someone who is hunderds of times stronger
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How in the **** did you get 1,000x baseline?
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Goku in current blue should be at least 20 times baseline given that each UI surpassed SSBKK20, and then afterwards he could match the previous UI with SSBKK20.
Golden Frieza is a little less than 50 times stronger than SSB Goku, so 20 * 50 = 1000
Golden Frieza is a little less than 50 times stronger than SSB Goku, so 20 * 50 = 1000
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Again, how Frieza doesn't stomp here?
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Oh didn't saw you bloodlusted Sonic. In that case Sonic time stops Frieza and then uses ring time on him
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Wisps are standard equipment, I'm pretty sure Ring Time is standard equipment too. Or it's an ability rather than an equipment
Also without these Sonic would not be able to affect Frieza so he stomps when Sonic is stripped from his haxes
Also without these Sonic would not be able to affect Frieza so he stomps when Sonic is stripped from his haxes
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Yes, with Time BreakPippom3la said:
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Not really. Frieza can still one shot Sonic but bloodlusted Sonic would just stop time and hax Frieza to death before he could send a death beamPippom3la said:
Gilad_Hyperstar
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The battle is fair. Since Sonic's time stop isn't thought based. That means that Frieza can still potentially one shot him with a death beam before Sonic time stops, but Sonic is just more likely to use his haxes first while bloodlusted
In short, this is a decisive win, rather than a stomp
In short, this is a decisive win, rather than a stomp
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Ya'll forgetting Frieza will get a seizure just looking at Hyper Sonic. The hog clearly takes this even at an AP disadvantage ƒæÇ
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I'm voting Frieza, his death beams are far faster than Sonic haxes, ending this in a quick one shot
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Uh, Sonic can literaly slow down time with a thought, then he can easily dodge the beam while time is slowed then use his AoE transmutation
Death Beam is not faster than thought based time slow
Death Beam is not faster than thought based time slow
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The one that's shiny stomps.
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The Smart Cal Howard.The real cal howard said:
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Time Break is thought based, so it should allow Sonic to avoid getting Death Beamed right off the bat.
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Time break is also not de wae.Maverick Zero X said:
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Time break slows Sonic down too. In secret of the rings it slows him down and in generations it slows him down. The only time it makes him move faster than his opponent was when he asked for Shahra's help.
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Zamasu, we see in the cutscene of Sonic using Ring time without slowing him down, he asked Shara for help because in Secret Rings he only could use this ability because of Shara
Slowing down is gameplay mechanics, plus it wouldn't change, it would still make him dodge a very predictable beam then just transmutate
Slowing down is gameplay mechanics, plus it wouldn't change, it would still make him dodge a very predictable beam then just transmutate
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Show me all instances of Sonic not getting slowed down without calling for Shahra's help.
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Time Break is only used once outside of gameplay when Sonic meets the Ifrit, but that's a stupid request, Sonic is asking Shahra for help because needs her to even use Time Break in that game, she doesn't amp time break, she is why Sonic can use it, same as speed break, it's literaly explained in the tutorial
Heck, Darksspine literaly asks for Shahra's power, according to our headcanon Darksspine Sonic shouldn't be slow down in gameplay because he is asking for her help
Heck, Darksspine literaly asks for Shahra's power, according to our headcanon Darksspine Sonic shouldn't be slow down in gameplay because he is asking for her help
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What? Even if it's gameplay, that one cutscene is the only time it doesn't slow him down. It's just even worse in generations because there's no context behind it and it slows him down there too.
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That's also the only time it's used outside of gameplay
Prove that Shahra amps Time Break, and re read my comment
Prove that Shahra amps Time Break, and re read my comment
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Prove that Shahra amps Time Break
The cutscene already does that. It's funny how all of a sudden gameplay doesn't matter when there's a clear weakness of a move. Context is important.
Sonic is asking Shahra for help because needs her to even use Time Break in that game
Except Sonic literally uses it by himself during game play, and I here him yelling for Shahra's help, infact he yells "time break". Even if it was true that he can't use it by himself, you'd need even more evidence to prove it doesn't slow him down in Generations.
The cutscene already does that. It's funny how all of a sudden gameplay doesn't matter when there's a clear weakness of a move. Context is important.
Sonic is asking Shahra for help because needs her to even use Time Break in that game
Except Sonic literally uses it by himself during game play, and I here him yelling for Shahra's help, infact he yells "time break". Even if it was true that he can't use it by himself, you'd need even more evidence to prove it doesn't slow him down in Generations.
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Aren't you listening to me? No it doesn't, Time Break is a ability Sonic only can use because of her, Sonic is never alone in gameplay, Shahra's is always following him as a pink ball, plus you have Darksspine literaly shouting "Shahra's lend me your power" yet time still slows down in gameplay
Sonic always yells the attack name in Secret Rings, there's no need to prove it in Generations because it's already show as a gameplay mechanic, you would need to prove it's diferent
Sonic always yells the attack name in Secret Rings, there's no need to prove it in Generations because it's already show as a gameplay mechanic, you would need to prove it's diferent
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Generations because it's already show as a gameplay mechanic, you would need to prove it's diferent.
> Asking me to prove a negative, ok.
> Asking me to prove a negative, ok.
