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Odinforce Thor now has a Varies ratingaided by an incomplete all father Thor
Um ok, what about hulkOdinforce Thor now has a Varies rating
Alright give me a minI can agree with adding "up to 2-A" if the scaling proposed is legitimate, but the OP still needs to provide the sources for these comic panels before this revision can go anywhere.
Ok I sourced themI can agree with adding "up to 2-A" if the scaling proposed is legitimate, but the OP still needs to provide the sources for these comic panels before this revision can go anywhere.
An extra key may be necessary, yes.Create another key or profile or you can slap him with the "varies" tier since he has varied power level and inconsistent.
Either way he has consistently fought Thor so we cannot keep writing it off as PIS or outlier.
It will be necessary for joeAn extra key may be necessary, yes.
You never know, looks like hulk is gonna get another big change to his mythosI am perfectly fine that Savage Hulk is comparable if not superior to regular Thor I agree given Hulk arguably having no limit to how much stronger he could become and agree that his fight scenes between him and regular Thor isn't a full argument against potential Skyfather level threat. But key words are "Isn't full" and I feel like it's a middle road area. Hulk's "Limitless potential" also shouldn't be taken too extreme to the point and I doubt reach Low 1-A through anger for example, but the focus is 2-A here.
So I am more or less neutral here.
Especially with the whole Primordial Mother Of Horrors stuff.You never know, looks like hulk is gonna get another big change to his mythos
Uhhhh, why? Is there any... proof of Hulk being in a different named key? Or is this the good old "Antvasima is upgradaphobic"?I am currently neutral here, but an extra key would likely be necessary.
Alright, I agree with the proposals then.Ok I sourced them
No. Hulk just very blatantly used to be outclassed by skyfathers even in his WWH form, so we should at least make a note of that his power has grown a lot.Uhhhh, why? Is there any... proof of Hulk being in a different named key? Or is this the good old "Antvasima is upgradaphobic"?
No not really, I’m pretty sure it was stated WWH was going to original fight OF Thor in his storyline rather then sentry. Not really, it’s been stated repeatedly over the years that he gets stronger the angrier he gets and he had no limit to his rage.No. Hulk just very blatantly used to be outclassed by skyfathers even in his WWH form, so we should at least make a note of that his power has grown a lot.
Um ok, what about hulk
Savage hulk even later goes on to fight a fully powered od force Thor who was straight up going full power
From my understanding, Joe Fixit Hulk is scaling to incomplete Odinforce Thor, and Savage Hulk would be scaling to full Odinforce Thor and Celestials, so unless I'm missing something, wouldn't that make Hulk High 1-B once Ultima's revision goes through?Savage hulk’s power has even been stated to potentially surpass the power of celestials
I guess, but for now they’ll both be 2-a considering incomplete OF Thor is 2-aFrom my understanding, Joe Fixit Hulk is scaling to incomplete Odinforce Thor, and Savage Hulk would be scaling to full Odinforce Thor and Celestials, so unless I'm missing something, wouldn't that make Hulk High 1-B once Ultima's revision goes through?
Maybe if it was stated a couple times but it’s been stated through out most of his historyI do not know. It seems extremely exaggerated, but Marvel Comics is insanely inconsistent.
No you don't get it, it's a herald with a proper reason to be Tier 1! Ant will never accept such a terrible thing!Maybe if it was stated a couple times but it’s been stated through out most of his history
An argument can be made tho as Hulk has been shown to be consistently comparable to Thor better than most Heralds.From my understanding, Joe Fixit Hulk is scaling to incomplete Odinforce Thor, and Savage Hulk would be scaling to full Odinforce Thor and Celestials, so unless I'm missing something, wouldn't that make Hulk High 1-B once Ultima's revision goes through?
An argument can be made tho as Hulk has been shown to be consistently comparable to Thor better than most Heralds.
The heckling for my caution and skepticism is getting very old.No you don't get it, it's a herald with a proper reason to be Tier 1! Ant will never accept such a terrible thing!
It's a running gag(with reason to exist beyond skepticism, mind you) That you don't like anything upgrade-related for Marvel and DC, I'll stop making the comments all but to your face, but trying to get me to cease making them on places not on the wiki isn't gonna happen, I'm sorryThe heckling for my caution and skepticism is getting very old.
His always had the potential to do so, so savage hulk doesn’t need an extra key just up his rating. The only one that needs a new key is Joe since he actually has a new formWell, we have to decide in what manner we should add them. Should we add extra keys or not? The Hulk definitely didn't use to be able to reach a skyfather level of raw power.
Apply the changes I guess. Ultimas tier 1 stuff isn’t going to affect this for awhile until he officially gets to the gods I thinkSo what should we currently do here more specifically then?