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HST's Strongest Protagonists | Ichigo vs Luffy

Eh it may not actually be unfair to equalize base Luffy and Bankai Ichigo's speed, since Ichigo's speed amp is like a triple fusion of speed blitz amps.
 
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That also means if Luffy runs out of steam he gets blitzed because Ichigo will equalize to G5 Luffy's combat speed
I mean that's mitigated by the fact that Luffy is like, 4x his value In G5. I doubt the battle would come down to attrition in the first place.

I think it's more fair that Ichigo gain a possible wincon of outlasting him, than Ichigo getting the Blueno treatment the moment Luffy goes Gear Second.
 
But that is opposed to Ichigo being at Base Luffy's speed, while Luffy uses his multiple blitz tier amps due to gears + Soru. Which is where I'm concerned! But if his Ichigo has comparable speed amps, as Arc mentioned, then forget I said nothin'.
 
After beating Naruto, Ichigo now faces the Joy Boy, Monkey D. Luffy. Future Soul King vs Future Pirate King!

Standard Battle Assumptions

Speed equalized

Battle takes place in an empty Little Garden

Luffy scales to 537.6 Exatons
Ichigo scales to 133.05 Exatons

Gear 5th Luffy vs Fullbring Bankai Ichigo

Who wins and why?
I think Ichigo wins. Sure he may have a disadvantage in ap, but he has other things going for him. He still has the Blut defenses to close and surpass the gap, Getsuga Tenshou also closes the gap, he has reactive evolution as well, and other means to close it. Also, he has the Hollow Poison... and actually, I check the profile quickly, but Luffy doesn't seem to have soul manipulation resistances.
 
Ok I'll ask the important questions

Who has higher heat scaling chain
Will hollow poison effect luffy
How long can ichigo last after repeated ryou strikes
Does ichigo have resistance to toon for-
 
Ok I'll ask the important questions

Who has higher heat scaling chain
Pretty sure Luffy is >28000C vs Ichigo's downscale from Real Yhwach's 15 million resistance.
Will hollow poison effect luffy
It could. Depends on how Haki interacts, which I don't think it can stop it.
How long can ichigo last after repeated ryou strikes
I'll answer this later.
Does ichigo have resistance to toon for-
SHUT! jk
 
Being surrounded by flames ≠ scaling to the heat of the flames.
Royd's Blut resistance scales to that level of heat, it says so on both his profile and the Quincy Physiology page. Ichigo burned the real Yhwach with GT while he defended it, implying usage of Blut. And those flames are 15 million as well, Jugram directly confirms this:
 
Ichigo burned the real Yhwach with GT while he defended it, implying usage of Blut
So it's an implication rather than a concrete fact? I don't see why he would've had used Blut if it wasn't shown. What else do they scale to?
And those flames are 15 million as well, Jugram directly confirms this:
Again, simply being surrounded by the flames doesn't mean he scales to their heat. He'd need to be directly touching them, which the anime didn't show he was.
 
Again, simply being surrounded by the flames doesn't mean he scales to their heat. He'd need to be directly touching them, which the anime didn't show he was.
Royd by being in the area in general would have been covered by Yama's initial spreading of the flame.
 
So it's an implication rather than a concrete fact? I don't see why he would've had used Blut if it wasn't shown.
The manga doesn't always directly show usage of Blut, the panel in question of Yhwach doesn't. He was clearly shown defending against GT as well.
Again, simply being surrounded by the flames doesn't mean he scales to their heat. He'd need to be directly touching them, which the anime didn't show he was.
He was standing in proximity of them, in addition to also being caught in the initial blast. Even if you argue he didn't, that resistance would still be far above anything Luffy has done.

Haki. According to Kisuke, it works by weakening the spiritual powers of the target which results in the soul being decayed. Luffy's Haki resists this.
Does Luffy's Haki resist Corruption? I don't recall it being the case, nor it resisting death manip.


Anyways, there are probably better arguments for this, but I'm gonna sleep rn.
 
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