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How strong is Baldur in GOW 4?

So how would Baldur's justifications be reworded to address his proper scaling to the World Serpent and Kratos. The latter is obviously noting the bone splintering thing and Kratos being rusty + out of his prime, but what about Jormie?
 
So how would Baldur's justifications be reworded to address his proper scaling to the World Serpent and Kratos. The latter is obviously noting the bone splintering thing and Kratos being rusty + out of his prime, but what about Jormie?
Low Multiverse level (Held his own against an out-of-practice Kratos, though he was ultimately overwhelmed and defeated. Could temporarily knock out Jormugandr, albeit very briefly and when the latter wasn't in a position to defend itself)
 
Low Multiverse level (Held his own against an out-of-practice Kratos, though he was ultimately overwhelmed and defeated. Could temporarily knock out Jormugandr, albeit very briefly and when the latter wasn't in a position to defend itself)
Is there any Norse character that he is stronger then? (Regarding on our wiki)
 
Idk. He kinda scales nowhere but below Kratos. Definitely stronger than like, Thrud or Magni and Modi at least.
Speaking of, how strong are Magni and Modi?

I mean, they knew that Kratos fought and beat Baldur in round 1 yet were still confident in fighting him (as their dialogue has Magni [aka the one who should've lived longer] say "He went to war with uncle and walked away")
 
Speaking of, how strong are Magni and Modi?

I mean, they knew that Kratos fought and beat Baldur in round 1 yet were still confident in fighting him (as their dialogue has Magni [aka the one who should've lived longer] say "He went to war with uncle and walked away")
Tbf, that could just be them being cocky.

They killed Nerthus during the Long War but that's about it.

Funny that Thor's kids killed Freya's mom.
 
Already been debunked countless times.

This is in reference to Kratos' misconception that Baldur was the strongest mortal he had ever faced, until he realized he was just your run-of-the-mill god.

In the end of the game tho, after Baldur's regenerative curse is nuked, Kratos threatens to splinter every single bone in his body until Atreus tells him Baldur has been beaten and is no longer a threat.
How do you debunk Cory's tweet of old Kratos being stronger than Young Kratos? It's the most ambiguous thing of all
 
How do you debunk Cory's tweet of old Kratos being stronger than Young Kratos? It's the most ambiguous thing of all
One tweet (Two if you count Bruno's "parental love" bullshit) contradicted by multiple other official sources stating Kratos is hella rusty in 2018, less muscular than his Greek self, re-awakening his dormant powers, constantly holding himself back for the better of his son, shaking off the cobwebs after not having a godly fight in a long-ass time, and only got back to form after training for 3 years up until the immediate start of GoW Ragnarok, confirmed by Eric Williams himself? (He also calls 2018 Kratos as being far too rusty and out of form).
 
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One tweet (Two if you count Bruno's "parental love" bullshit) contradicted by multiple other official sources stating Kratos is hella rusty in 2018, less muscular than his Greek self, re-awakening his dormant powers, constantly holding himself back for the better of his son, shaking off the cobwebs after not having a godly fight in a long-ass time, and only got back to form after training for 3 years up until the immediate start of GoW Ragnarok, confirmed by Eric Williams himself? (He also calls 2018 Kratos as being far too rusty and out of form).
Even with all this, Norse Kratos has none of his old Greek magics that made him such a devastating menace to Olympus.
 
Blade of Olympus is really only there for its power-null bullshit as of GoW3, because all the other powers it had were permanently reclaimed by Kratos before the Styx bullshit happened. The Blade at this point is a useless hunk of metal that only serves to be a conduit for channeling one's godly powers through it, instead of the Blade having anything going for itself anymore, as seen when the Blade no longer lights up without either Kratos or Zeus wielding it.
 
GOW2018 Novel Chapter 55

“Come on, do it!” Baldur taunted, the corners of his mouth inching into a grimace.

“Stop… please!” Freya cried, surrendering to the agony of her breaking heart.

“This must end,” Kratos snarled.

“But he is beaten, Father. No longer a threat.”

Something in Atreus’ voice stopped Kratos in his tracks. He stared first at Baldur, then at his son, then back at Baldur. It was Freya’s influence that tugged at his son’s heart. Was Atreus allowing emotion to cloud his thinking? Was it the way he cared for Freya that made him wish compassion on this fiend? The old Kratos lived only to kill, and would have snapped this one’s neck then pummeled him until every bone in his body splintered. That Kratos could find no reason to let this monster live. But he was no longer that man.

Hearing Freya’s whimpers behind him, he yielded to the god he desired to be, rather than the god that was.

He released Baldur’s throat.

“You will never come for us again. You will never touch her in anger,” Kratos commanded, his face hard as stone.

“I need no protection from you,” Freya said, her voice growing stronger from the realization that her son would live.

Kratos cast his gaze to Freya as if to dismiss her words. She stared back at him, disappointed, hurt, and broken.
Tbh Kratos has brutalized people on par with him like Herc, this isn't no anti-feat for Baldur especially since he was already defeated.
 
Tbh Kratos has brutalized people on par with him like Herc, this isn't no anti-feat for Baldur especially since he was already defeated.
Herc he needed to get rid of his Cestuses to do so, and everyone else was pure fodder to him.

Baldur? Baldur was getting his shit kicked in every time Kratos even slightly lost his temper.
 
Herc he needed to get rid of his Cestuses to do so, and everyone else was pure fodder to him.

Baldur? Baldur was getting his shit kicked in every time Kratos even slightly lost his temper.
That was enraged Spartan Rage Kratos, different from serious normal Kratos.
 
That was enraged Spartan Rage Kratos, different from serious normal Kratos.
Okay, but again, this Kratos is still nowhere near his prime. And there's no "Enraged Spartan Rage", just Spartan Rage. That is literally him getting enraged just about enough to pull through sticky situations, it's still not the full package that he used against the Gods, let alone Zeus.

Even without the Rage, in the final section of the fight, Baldur was growing increasingly frustrated at being unable to actually do anything to Kratos in the long term, even screaming out "Why won't you die" at that point.
 
Hypothetical scenario: what if Kratos never got rusty? How much easier do you think his battles in both GoW 2018 and Ragnarok would have been?
 
Hypothetical scenario: what if Kratos never got rusty? How much easier do you think his battles in both GoW 2018 and Ragnarok would have been?
Kratos was no longer rusty in GoWR, so I'm not sure how that game would be affected. As for GoW2018, all the battles would be easier, but Baldur would probably still be the most challenging, mainly due to his invulnerability curse
 
Kratos was no longer rusty in GoWR, so I'm not sure how that game would be affected. As for GoW2018, all the battles would be easier, but Baldur would probably still be the most challenging, mainly due to his invulnerability curse
The reason I mentioned Ragnarok was because I was wondering if Kratos wasn't rusty in 2018, how much stronger would that make him in Ragnarok, given the starting point for his strength would be higher?
 
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