How powerful would you be if... [Kamisam no Iuotoori]

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Well hard to explain but basically, if in a universe where a character is treated as the creator of it like a creator of a video game is treated, would level would they be? And said other characters are already gods of the current universe (which seems to allow a full reversal of time later on) and is incomparable to this girl

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[Celestial_Pegasus]

Hmm at first i thought the world meant just the earth but considiering she says she isn't an alien from another planet makes it seem like universes however that earth is like a barrier from what i can see and those other earths could just be earths from other universe. I think first you need proof that she created all the universes and not just the earths in different universes, but then again "this world" could mean all of existence, what other earth are they talking about? I need more info.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

She denies it quickly right after though so we can't go with that actually.

Although if she created everything and treats their world as if fiction then it's sensible that she created everything shown. There are no other planets or Earths there sadly, however at minimum there is a galaxy because it has been shown cubes (where the battle takes place) travel in space for quite some time before they reach Earth despite their speed.

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And well the planet in that 'Place of Gods' is quite small in comparison to the 'gods' that reached that place. And the place itself actually has a sun in existence from the next panels so if you treat it as that, it's a pretty big place? Kinda like scaling the planet to the size of a exercise ball and comparing the scale to everything else or err, to describe it like the Men in Black aliens and marbles thing? (Only it's a beach ball and it's a planet?)

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And yeah that's also proof that Earth is that small in scale to the gods.


There's also another

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And lastly to add on, Tomfoolery was given to some of the cast earlier. And it's basically a weaker variant of the god power they would receive (Not the one the girl, outsider, has) and it has the guy creating a multi solar system with numerous stars showing. Or at least I think it's galaxy? Either way it's unlikely to be just teleporting.

They're in a forest on this one-

http://*********.com/Manga/Kami-sama-no-Iutoori-Part-2/Chapter-076?id=287670#4

and then the change to Silver Surfer

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(c76 16-18)

And err, probably irrelevant but helps on the scale

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making distant stars glow

(c70)

And the biggest one yet, him actually claiming he made a universe with this combo attack. Though probably overkill. Then again the guy did shrug off the triple star beam attack earlier.

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(c79)


And to scale, well the final victor, sorry no translations yet,-

http://beta.senmanga.com/Kamisama_no_Iutoori_Ni/Final#25

-seemed to be able to travel to any point of timelines and could monitor everything. Or recreated everything so there's that degree of time control.


If I misunderstood the question sorry about that.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Hmm from what i have seen the gods power basically only apply to the earth which is small in comparison to them. Cubes traveling in space don't prove there is a galaxy, however i saw many stars in another scan so there is more to the universe than just earth and that guy did make stars shine. Still though the god said she created the world and came from other side and that humans have no concept of the outside, that one guy couldn't leave the planet, the outside just means outside of the planet from what i can see, i am not seeing universe level here, unless the gods are stated to control entire universes that is and not just the world which is referring to earth.

Being gods seem to make them able to be outside of the earth which is why that guy with tomfoolery could leave the planet, and being a god allows them to control the earth, however it doesn't give them control of the entire universe from what i can see.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Fair enough on the former parts.

But what I mean on the guy not leaving the planet, well two things

- We can't actually determine where he is after that since we don't have a proper pic or time frame or how fast he's going. Although initially a weakened god power, tomfoolery which was barely a fraction in comparison to the true god power, has them going at a speed like a meteorite.

- Secondly, it almost looks like he's already surrounded by stars there. And there is also a possibility that Acid Mana, god loli girl there, just took him back before he could leave because he's talking to them

- Thirdly, on the scale of that place they're on, the planet is still relatively small.

And I actally made a new edit showcasing some of the tomfoolery above where the guy basically uses the fraction of god's power to create a universe. But if you already saw that then nevermind.

Edit - Just saw the edit. Well it does make sense. But yeah the long haired guy still did that time reset and oversee everything afterwards.

Double Edit - Then again the term world is a bit vague on just what extent it is sometimes. Agreeing on your posts though, but it does raise the chance of possibility though since that crazy guy (the one with the manic look that tried toe scape) basically wanted to destroy everything and then rebuild everything and then destroy everything.

Triple Edit - ding ding ding! Also there seems to be a likelihood of Acid Mana to be 5th dimensional.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Just saw that edit, the person made a meteor and placed it in orbit within their universe, as i said before gods have control over earth and humans can't leave the planet however gods can and they have control over stuff beyond just earth as that guy was using stars to attack, so that other character could have placed the meteor in their universe yes doesn't mean they have the power to create or destroy a universe, this is what i think.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Fair enough that does make sense. What of the time reset? Done so after?

Also made additional edits on the latest response, although I wanna hear more about the third edit.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Unless that time reset resets the time of the entire universe and not just earth, i don't think it helps.

The guy wanted to destroy and rebuild everything, as in the earth or the universe? Besides that scan with the guy using stars, the series really seems restrictive from what i can see in what it means by world as it only seems to refer to just earth, you would think they would show a picture of the entire universe if gods had control of all of it and not just a single planet.

Guessing acid mana is the god? If so she did mention about how 3-D beings can't pass through the fourth or fifth dimensions however seems like she was just making comparision about how just like how comic book characters can't come into the real world and 3-D beings can't go to the 4th or 5th dimensions, humans can't leave the earth, it doesn't mean that she is necessarily 5-D.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

I see. It did rewind everything so I would say that it affected everything alongside the cube's pre-arrival to Earth. So that should be a larger range.

Thinking about it's probably the planet if the above doesn't scale.

Though so. Was worth a shot. Either way though despite creating literally everything in the world (Planet and everything in it) what tier wouls she be then? Then again she was being correct about it and it does make me doubt on why she would make such an accurate description on that when she could've just used 3D cannot reach 4D no matter what.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

The cubes come from space but where though? All i see is the time stop being on a planetary level but also extends towards space to an unknown degree.

Idk she said she created the world but the world refers to the planet from what i have gathered and not the entire universe so i don't think you can put her at universe level, the best you could do is scale her to the tomfoolery guy and put her at least star level likely far higher.

Still don't think she is 5-D, seems to be just a comparision to me, what you need is statements of gods being universe level in order for any feat to be higher, again the story seems oddly confined to a single planet if the gods were suppose to be universe level.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

It's not shown exactly which is why I draw on the separate location thing.

God's place is where all those guys are in right? And in there a planet is the size of a beach ball and with a thought someone could summon a giant soccer ball into the world.

Also did you answer my question regarding the guy leaving the place? Cause even if he did leave the planet and was brought back, I explained that Acid Mana was talking to them so that's probably why she brought it back. But if you basically have an entire planet/solar system and a beach ball is worth the size of a planet... hang on let me find some values.


On the other hand thinking about it, if we do use the guy with the tomfoolery, he was on a place where it seems that there's no familiar planets anywhere and it seems to be on a separate spectrum and he did say Universe there so pseudo gods having a domain there? That being the world?

Fair enough. I'll try rereading and see if there's more feats.

Also sorry if I'm being annoying, I just kinda wanna try every attempt on these feats.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Can the gods control the world of the gods though, a planet there is the size of a beach ball so their planet would have to be massive, probably an extremly large planet or a star even.

I don't know what to make of him leaving that place either it's cause of his speed or as a result of having godly powers he was instanly able to leave the hurt, kinda like what i have been sayin how being a god allows you to leave the planet, sow ould kind be teleportation i guess.

Idk, he was in a seperate place and that other guy said he was putting a meteor in order in his universe, so i guess it's a place where that guy has domain over like how the gods have domain over planet.

And no your not being annoying.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Yes, they could create anything there. After all it's the domain. And I just did a calc there, will show once I organize it. But I did get the meters of about while using a low value in meters (8.1963925e+45)

I think it's more speed seeing as he isn't fond of tricks actually. But yeah it's a bit weird.

Hmm. I see. Would that be enough to warrant the possibility of it then? Or at least as a 'possibly'? I mean pocket universes are in existence but the guy's power was at least able to utilize distant stars.

Ah gotcha ^^