How come Oblivion is not Tier 0

[LuciusIsMas]

Oblivion is beyond the concept of dimensions, existence. He's pretty much far more powerful than all of creation most likely and exceeds the living tribunal, eternity, etc. near infinitely. He's pretty much a boundless character. I think he should be Tier 0 however I'll listen to any arguments you all propose.

 

[MYHERO]

Don't know who Oblivion but you're going to need to provide scans to prove your point.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

@MYHERO Oblivio

@Lucius. Because Living Tribunal.

 

[MYHERO]

Also I might be wrong but the way you described him sounds like a normal outerversal character.

 

[LuciusIsMas]

@MYHERO Oblivio@Lucius. Because Living Tribunal.

Oblivion is said to exist entirely beyond Living Tribunal.

 

[LuciusIsMas]

@MYHERO Well he is said to be the embodiment of non existence but Tier 0 does say the character has to be, beyond the concept of existence and non existence.

 

[MYHERO]

I see...

Do you have any scans? It can help your case a lot.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

This is comicvine's fault thanks to that insane wank

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

@MYHERO Well he is said to be the embodiment of non existence but Tier 0 does say the character has to be, beyond the concept of existence and non existence.

Emboding non-existence =/= being beyond non-existence

 

[LuciusIsMas]

I think this is where Oblivion basically explains all of creation and even NON creation is all apart of him. Pretty much showing he's boundless.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Nah, he doesnt transcend the nothingness, he is just attached to it, he embodies non existence but he is not beyond it

 

[LuciusIsMas]

Ah alright.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Actually in that scan he just says he embodies the eternal nothingness beyond creation. All things will fall into nothingness. Inferring creation and possibly even the creator.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Nothingness is beyond creation, but Oblivion himself is not beyond the nothingness

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Oblivion ''IS'' the nothingness.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Yes, but he doesnt transcend it

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Maybe the original DeMatteis version... But the one inplemented into the lore of Marvel definitely isn't Tier 0.

 

[EmperorRorepmeThree]

DeMatteis has his own Oblivion? Which comics are those?

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

The original one that states he was before the Multiverse... the Iceman Comic... that was the original Oblivion he had within his own lore... Before he included it within the lore of Marvel as one of the Cosmic Entities.