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Honkai: Star Rail Welt's Apology Form

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Currently Welt's Star of Eden is listed as this for his HSR Key
Unknown with the Star of Eden (His cane is the Star of Eden, but the original was destroyed long ago and he only used fake ones to fight since)
and High Complex Multiversal level for his HI3 Key

Welt's Star of Eden and Authority of Reason should be buffed to 1-B (12D) for his Honkai Impact 3rd Key and 1-B Star of Eden for his Honkai Star Rail key

Acheron stated that his Star of Eden was more dangerous than her sword naught which is listed as 1-B
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He was also going to use Star of Eden to annihilate Aventurine of Stratagems 1-B final attack as retaliation until Acheron stepped in.



Now it is shown that Welt is capable of clashing with Zephyro's White Hole and Path of Destruction, with the clash causing the rupture of the entire cosmos, ending Elio's script


This is consistent with how the Astral Express constantly praises Welt as the strongest member and is shown to solo fight Zephryo while the rest of the Astral Express had fallen

Elio also has the power to see the future and infinite possibilities, with his scripts always being accurate. Elio also gets his prophecies from the Aeon of Finality Terminus THEMSELVES

So the proposal will be
Hyperverse level with the Star of Eden (He is repeatedly regarded as the strongest by his fellow Astral Express Members. It is stated that he is comparable to the strength of his prime, making it likely that he can use the " Singularity Rebuild" which can affect all twelve dimensions and instantly erase higher planes of existence. The Emanator of Nihility Acheron stated his Star of Eden was more dangerous than her Sword Naught. The same weapon that allows her to effect the entire Dreamscape, undo Dominicus' Emanator of Harmony and Order powers and destroy a manifestation of IX THEMSELF. In the fight against Aventurine of Stratagems', he was going to use the Star of Eden to annihilate Aventurine's full power of Preservation in retaliation. With the Star of Eden, he was also capable of clashing with the Emanator of Destruction & Self-Annihilator himself, Zephryo, who is the strongest Lord Ravager of them all and the most ferocious enemy they have ever faced by that point. Their clash resulted in the rupture of the entire cosmos and the end to Elio's script for the future if the Astral Express went to Patrevia instead of Amphoreus)

Next up, Jingliu should get a new key called Base | Lord Ravager (Alternate Future) or Base | Lord Ravager (Elio's Script)

As shown in Elio's script, if the Astral Express didn't go to Amphoreus, Jingliu would've eventually become a Lord Ravager / The Emanator of Destruction as well as becoming the Emanator of Propagation for controlling the entire Swarm and Emanator of The Hunt for controlling and commending a corrupted Lightning-Lord



As such, Jingliu should be buffed to the stats of an Emanator and 1-B via Path of Destruction, Propagation, and The Hunt alongside gaining the abilities of each path

Agree: @Godernet @Vietthai96 (With Honkai Energy)
 
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where is hertatomb bro?
I agree but one correction
Express didnt die when Welt fought Zephyro, they fell after the events of Welt vs Zephyro
its just that welt decided to run the fade against the strongest on a random tuesday
that is all
 
This applies to Yanqing too, lol
I hope you realize this all chainscales back to Pom-Pom

 
I want to agree but wouldn't it will affect most of the characters in HI3rd?(I think so) 🧐
 
Is "Naught" a weapon that has a special ability like SoE? Honestly, for me, Naught isn’t a special weapon but rather just a mediator between Acheron and the Path of Nihility, so it’s better not to use that justification, since the statement is very vague.

And what about the enemies that Welt fights in HSR, like Sunday or the Ebon Deer? Are they get chainscaled and then scaled back to the Astral Express, making all AE members Tier 1B?
 
I want to agree but wouldn't it will affect most of the characters in HI3rd?(I think so) 🧐
god tiers are alr 1-B so no
Is "Naught" a weapon that has a special ability like SoE? Honestly, for me, Naught isn’t a special weapon but rather just a mediator between Acheron and the Path of Nihility, so it’s better not to use that justification, since the statement is very vague.
Diff between her base and naught self can literally one shot you and nuke asdana galaxy
And what about the enemies that Welt fights in HSR, like Sunday or the Ebon Deer? Are they get chainscaled and then scaled back to the Astral Express, making all AE members Tier 1B?
No this is explicitly full power welt
 
Diff between her base and naught self can literally one shot you and nuke asdana galaxy
That’s what I want to ask — can Acheron nuke a galaxy because she has Naught, or because she uses the Path of Nihility?

No this is explicitly full power welt
But the OP said ‘Welt’s Star of Eden,’ though.

Even if we assume that the one who has Tier 1B power is the full-power version of Welt in HSR, this version of Welt can’t be cross-scaled back to the HI3 Welt, since the HI3 version has never been shown to use Singularity Rebuild.
 
Ig I agree then 👍
(One question, is the SoE 0th-power 1-B?)

since the HI3 version has never been shown to use Singularity Rebuild.
Singularity Rebuild is from manga Honkai Impact 3rd: Alien Space chapter 16 and it's happened in 2005
 
That’s what I want to ask — can Acheron nuke a galaxy because she has Naught, or because she uses the Path of Nihility?
Using naught unleashes her emanator powers and draws path of nihility from IX so im sure it via naughy
But the OP said ‘Welt’s Star of Eden,’ though.
0th power is the name divine key use when you go FP
Even if we assume that the one who has Tier 1B power is the full-power version of Welt in HSR, this version of Welt can’t be cross-scaled back to the HI3 Welt, since the HI3 version has never been shown to use Singularity Rebuild.
what viet and other said
 
Then sorry my bad, so "full power of HSR welt" is same like "Hi3 welt" but what about SoE in HSR welt? Are the SoE still considered as "unknown"?
 
Then sorry my bad, so "full power of HSR welt" is same like "Hi3 welt" but what about SoE in HSR welt? Are the SoE still considered as "unknown"?
Welt’s full power with the SoE goes from Unknown to 1-B in HSR because of SoE being more dangerous than naught, Zephryo Vs Welt clashing with each other being dropped on a random ass Tuesday, etc.
 
Using naught unleashes her emanator powers and draws path of nihility from IX so im sure it via naughy
That’s what I meant — using Naught is the same as using the Path of Nihility, and the 1B tier comes from the Path of Nihility, not from Naught itself. So you can’t really compare Naught with the Star of Eden, since we don’t know how strong Naught is without the powers of its emanators.

Welt’s full power with the SoE goes from Unknown to 1-B in HSR because of SoE being more dangerous than naught, Zephryo Vs Welt clashing with each other being dropped on a random ass Tuesday, etc.
What about the base SoE? Are they still 1B or High1C or 3-B or unknown?
 
That’s what I meant — using Naught is the same as using the Path of Nihility, and the 1B tier comes from the Path of Nihility, not from Naught itself. So you can’t really compare Naught with the Star of Eden, since we don’t know how strong Naught is without the powers of its emanators.


What about the base SoE? Are they still 1B or High1C or 3-B or unknown?
I think "Varies up to 1-B with the Star of Eden" can work
 
That’s what I meant — using Naught is the same as using the Path of Nihility, and the 1B tier comes from the Path of Nihility, not from Naught itself. So you can’t really compare Naught with the Star of Eden, since we don’t know how strong Naught is without the powers of its emanators.
Acheron's profile has 1-B via Path of Nihility and sword. Also why does it matter if we don't know how strong it is with the powers of an emanator if the statement was made when the sword was only ever using the power of an emanator.

So 100% Star of Eden is 1B and 1%-99% Star of Eden is 3-B? That's funny ngl
Tbf no god damn way is that miniature blackhole Welt does is 1-B 😭
 
That’s what I meant — using Naught is the same as using the Path of Nihility, and the 1B tier comes from the Path of Nihility, not from Naught itself. So you can’t really compare Naught with the Star of Eden, since we don’t know how strong Naught is without the powers of its emanators.
Naught IS what grants her the powers, without it shes not able to use her emanator powers tho you could he right she can just jump higher into 3-B as naught and 1-B with paths but it wont change a thing abt SoE
What about the base SoE? Are they still 1B or High1C or 3-B or unknown?
3-B, 1-B with full 0th power and Singularity rebuild
buy hoyo works under UES so it applies to AP anyway its all scalable
 
hulk gets from like 5-B or 3-C idk to 1-A simply bcs he gets angry
It’s because he got boosted in his enraged form, isn’t it? It’s not like 99% of Angry Hulk’s power is 5-B or 3-C, but then suddenly 100% of it becomes 1-A.

If it’s not like that, then I don’t know how that could be possible.
 
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