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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread
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Welt on one occasion is said to be equal to his prime
The other he’s said to maybe have the strength from his hayday
His hay day being after he emerged from the sea of quanta with a more Honkai adapted body that can handle his Herrscher core better.
His hayday can’t be after part 1 cause Kiana was siphoning Honkai from the world and he becomes a pathstrider in HSR only.
Welt in chapter 33 of hi3 said he never reached Welt Joyce’s power (after getting out of the SoQ) more so. Herrscher of Thunder Mei from reawakening in Nagazora far exceeds his, Joyce and Bronya’s power.
Even worse; Welt compared the core of reason he and Bronya had to the gem of desire rather than to other stronger herrschers.
Saying Current welt is above Flamescion doesn’t make sense
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Prime welt 3-C when he explicitly cannot use full power of herrscher and is below bronya who actually can (High 4-C) yeah UNC negs i agree
Mbpoops
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she literally has 4 cores bruh
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No you don’t understand one Herrscher core that can’t even make 1080p anime episodes anymore and a star of Eden that should be running on fumes > Multiple herrscher cores from a Valkyrie with some of the best Honkai resistance in the verseshe literally has 4 cores bruh
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I mean it does make sense why Current Welt > Flamescion because we need explicit evidence why Flamescion > Current Welt as we don't know the "heyday" here especially if Welt nuked the cosmos with Zephyro
Didn't Welt fight Sirin who had more than that?
Mbpoops
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and we know what happened to welt right..? you do know why sirin got 6 cores right..?
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Didn't he get no-low diffed everytime he fought Sirin after she obtained the other cores
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Like Welt only ever won (later got sneaked and backshotted by Otto) against a Sirin who had just become a Herrscher and didn't have a good grasp on her powers
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We do know the hayday
We played the game and know the timeline of the story
Hayday is past tense. And the strongest he was in HI3 had him getting one tapped by Weakened Base Kevin’s aura.
If he surpassed his peak the game would say so cause it’s been talked about on two occasions.
Welt’s cosmos nuke would just be something even Bronya scales to if yall are fine with giving Star of Eden that (which nova at least ain’t)
did you read second eruption?
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if heyday here means his prime, then hes literally below HoR bronya, who actually got victimized by HoD that kiana negged. so there you go
and this is same welt who went, "hmm yes from what ive seen from HoT mei shes stronger than our full power bronya"
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And then Sirin died to a nuke
I did, multiple times, actually
And no, we don't know the heyday, it's vague
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Oh yea Sirin was being experimented by Otto after to create K-423 when she died to a nuke
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I am also not fine with that since there is zero context regarding that alternate timeline (or any of the alternate timelines really)
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not even a herrscher
she literally got knocked out back to human form after getting blasted by 300% shamash from siegfried
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the context is literally express getting slimed on sight because they happened to find zephyro and unc was the only one fighting him, thats literally on script unless terminus own words (since thats where they get script from) arent accurate then idk man he summoned IX or sum shit
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not even a herrscher
I mean Welt survived the nuke
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You mean the same Sirin that was already exhausting herself and was caught off guard and was still going strong??
She died to a nuke? Blatant misinformation that's being spread. Have you even played the game or read the manga? It shows how she died.
Can't tell if this is ragebait or pure larp.
*Also Cocoon ain't getting downscaled
Thank god part 2 exists!
It's given so much info and you need a full 150+ hours of reading it slowly, so thanks to PT2 yea
Weaver ironically is amazing at giving misinformation, he larps the game he never touched!* That's over all -1000 points. Larping something never played
And
Is this your welt?
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He got his ahh handed to him by Sirin.
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Sirin got hit with a Siegfried might of an utu blast + Schariac blood which can purify Honkai I don't see how the nukes did the heavy lifting here
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honestly i dont even know what is happening here anymore, ill finish up crt and pray it has at least 3 pages cuz anything over that is cooked
Mbpoops
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doesnt matter we're getting capped at 4-B again
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ok I’m not getting through to you.
So I’ll just keep it brief
Hayday is the past
There’s a clear point where Welt got stronger in HI3’s main story
He’s inferior to Bronya regardless
He couldn’t have gotten stronger after part 1 and before Star rail cause of how part 1 ended
If Welt was oh so powerful why didn’t he deal with FG Otto or the Herrscher of domination himself
Even if he was stronger before HI3 as a game started (Ryusuke fight), he’s weaker than Welt Joyce. Who’s fodder.
Hayday can’t talk about the future like his fight with Zephyro
And on the second eruption bit, idk why you’d even mention it then if you know of how many times Sirin used him like a chew toy.
That’ll be all.
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thats how it was accepted first time when we got welt vs zephyro scaling accepted, welt was via HE and zephyro was with path of destruction
now if the 2-A isnt applicable Zephyro would be at least 3-C with emanator value and welt would be AT MOST
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Just take that out it should only be higher with star of eden
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She was a normal girl when she died to the nuke with Cecila LOL. Her core had literally collapsed.
+ If you think Welt's FP (the dude who never drew the FP of the Core of Reason) is stronger than a fully transformed Herrscher of Flame, nevermind Flamescion, you're delusional. So try your best to remember that the Reason Authority is BARELY WORKING because the CoF stopped supporting it. Every Herrscher is explicitly weaker once Kiana takes her place on the moon, including Welt.
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If no one made a concluded thread on clone scaling or mentioned it at any point leave them as 3-C and tackle it later
Mbpoops
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nah it would be 4-C the clones dont really scale to acheron like at all but ill leave it 3-C
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A quick fix thread like the s-rank removal will be enough to fix that so it’s no worry
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Gnaw sting scaling is gone so Base FF goes back to her old unknown rating if you’re wondering
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Yeah like isn't she like extremely sick and can't even exist properly outside of her suit or a medical tank
Mbpoops
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fine with this cus idk her speed
Mbpoops
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yea the scaling is literally silverwolf saying if she gets caught itll be a threat to penning cone... and that somehow makes her comparable to base aventurine?
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Aventurine and Topaz?
Base aventurine doesn’t get blitzed and fights along side Archer (check the scan/vid though I might be mistaken) against the gnaw stings iirc
So they get FTL
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