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Those white blood cells are gonna one-shot him tho. I mean, they can kill bacteria that should downscale to Acheron via being able to kill her if she does not take her meds
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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread
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The gap between Giant Sting and the Baseline multi system value is a 840,637x gap and the gap between Star level and Giant Sting is a 12411765000000000000000000000000x gap so yeah arbitrary giving Argenti a random tier isn't going to fly. So yeah, the bug's internal organs durability is downscaled and Argenti gets an At most rating for what level level Giant Sting is due to this.
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Yeah Im not really sure about this....
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It’s either they downscale their durability or Jotaro is capable of crushing Welt’s heart with Star Platinum.
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Whats the gap between a little hole in your stomach and you…
Genuinely what is logically inconsistent about the latter
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is it bad that im ok with this?
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The feat is probably around Tier 4. I js dont fully see it being 4-A.
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The issue is how far you'd downscale from the feat. Argenti will still have to be pretty strong to affect it like that, but how much?
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Does this mean me as a Tier 10 can replicate the same feat
Literally any and all alleged abilities based on full on “durability negation” got their rating nuked off the rating.
And the gap mind you is this
A character that is 9-B CANNOT harm the internal organs of a 7-C character and the wiki accepts this. There’s literally nothing that can be changed about this unless yall make a staff thread for a wiki wide change regarding this.
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This still doesn't answer the question: how much does Argenti downscale?
It's weird to use the exact value the Sting scales to when Argenti logically should be far below it. Like, is it 50x, 100x, 1000x? How far below does he scale?
The only solution would be if the wiki somehow finds the durability gap between internal and external organs.
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Also again, Argenti made it vomit rather than destroying a heart or something
I def wouldn’t say something the tap of your throat so you gag is equal to the force of a punch. The downscale could be so much it’s unquantifiable tbh.
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Broskie the actual solution for this to give an At most rating. Argenti isn't going to magically be 50 tiers below the bug.
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I recall there's an old calc about argenti piercing the bugs from inside only give result tier 5
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You’re probably thinking of this, but it’s not evaled and I doubt its methodologies work. But I did fail to get results near tier 4
Honkai: Star Rail - Argenti stabs the Giant String
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Probably not, especially since
"and we consider internal damage a form of dura neg"
is only really limited now after a staff discussion and that their durability for internals do actually downscale. (Ontop of how a Wall level character cannot in any shape or form damage anything internal of a Town level character)
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Is 10-B immune to organ damage from a 10-C?
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You mean like
Eri (My Hero Academia)
Eri was born with a mutated Quirk that allows her to "rewind" any person back to a previous state, but has little to no control over it. When this Quirk first manifested, she accidentally "rewound" her own father out of existence, causing Eri's mother to consider her to be cursed. Eri was then...
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(Without her quirk obviously)
doing internal damage to
Frieren
Frieren is the primary protagonist of Frieren: Beyond Journey's End. Eighty years after defeating the demon king as a member of the hero Himmel's party, she travels the world to discover new magic while visiting places where her party traveled during their 10 year voyage to defeat the demon...
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If Eri punches Frieren's stomach directly, can she cause her to gag?You mean like
Eri (My Hero Academia)
Eri was born with a mutated Quirk that allows her to "rewind" any person back to a previous state, but has little to no control over it. When this Quirk first manifested, she accidentally "rewound" her own father out of existence, causing Eri's mother to consider her to be cursed. Eri was then...
(Without her quirk obviously)
doing internal damage to
Frieren
Frieren is the primary protagonist of Frieren: Beyond Journey's End. Eighty years after defeating the demon king as a member of the hero Himmel's party, she travels the world to discover new magic while visiting places where her party traveled during their 10 year voyage to defeat the demon...
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The type of comment your read on Gelbooru
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Finepoint is here???? Anyway i do have a question. Does messing with internal organs count as duraneg or scaleable AP?
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Gelbooru isn’t even allat tbf.
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I have my homepage set to be just the list of latest posts, and sometimes I see something that catches my eye in random threads.
It's typically duraneg, but could also be AP if the durability of their internal organs is established.
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Apparently a calc for it exists…
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Dawggg
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After the events of Chariot’s staff thread, this pretty much got turned into a very limited aplplication
Isn’t this more like the assumption to go for by default unless proven otherwise based on the staff thread
“Secondly, basically every character has durability comparable to their externals by default.
I don't think I need to explain it in to much detail or the logistics behind it, but, for example, a 6-A's internals would be in the same ballpark as their externals as otherwise even something like a 9-B attack would kill them for the same reason why a shockwave would liquify your organs even if you stood behind a solid wal”
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Well, it's possible I missed it. Link?
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Yeah pretty much back in 2025 Chariot made a staff thread to change standards when a Dragon Ball CRT tried granting full on durability negation to Gogeta and Broly just doesn’t have any missing organs from a literal internal organ nuke
Durability Negation (Internals).
Link to the page for reference. Yeah so, for some reason we list attacking internals as "Durability Negation". This is misleading in what durability negation even is, as defined by the page itself "The ability that allows users to damage the target, regardless of their durability." but attacking...
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It appears you are right.
Though it is still typically Durability Negation, it is Limited Durability Negation.
That said, the more important conclusion was that without confirmation you can apparently downscale organ durability from regular durability.
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Makes sense.
If Internals don't scale comparably or downscales to its externals, then Deku here would've just died to a Country level massive elbow to his gut. Yet none of his organs are cooked or fried.
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That does make logical sense in hindsight, but we very often ignore technicalities in the realistic impact of punching really hard like that, so I assumed that was the case here too.
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Why is Deku being brought up in a Honkai thread? Different authors obviously understand organ durability differently.Makes sense.
If Internals don't scale comparably or downscales to its externals, then Deku here would've just died to a Country level massive elbow to his gut. Yet none of his organs are cooked or fried.
Also, this sees to largely misrepresent the feat in question. This entire situation feels more like a false equivalence than anything because the entire point revolves around a gag reflex.
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It was just an example. Doesn't really matter since the default assumption for internals on the wiki is that they scale comparably or downscales their externals
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Right so, you either commit to gag reflexes scaling of AP, or you also commit to the Bug’s individual constituents being 4-A, which is incoherent when the rating itself is a derivative of the sum of these constituents, i.e it’s achieved by size and not strict AP.
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