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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

Enryu_The_Red_Tower said:
Can't Lifting Strength help in resisting Gravity Manipulation or I am drunk?
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i dont know, i dont think i saw anything like that get used
all i know is that if u can somehown survive singularity of a blackhole u can get high 3-A dura but thats impossible to do bcs thats just general resistance to black holes
 
PedjaTarzan said:
i dont know, i dont think i saw anything like that get used
all i know is that if u can somehown survive singularity of a blackhole u can get high 3-A dura but thats impossible to do bcs thats just general resistance to black holes
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Hoyo!!!! Let Base Acheron tank the singularity of a Black Hole so we can get High 3-A HSR, and my life is yours.
 
Viery said:
Welt’s agenda is really being pushed to the peak, huh?

Anyway, I need to remind you that even though the statement says “They devour each other,” the visuals show otherwise.

Zephyro's hole is pure white as it was shown in the lord Ravanger trailer.... But here his hole is not fully white it has welt's black whole mixed with it
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PedjaTarzan said:
i think u are mixing gravity with actual black holes
Which in this case no one rly outside nihility and destruction ppl have shown resisting that
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no the video is hyping up how gravity hax is so strong in verse then say blackhole is its strongest form etc etc
Enryu_The_Red_Tower said:
Can't Lifting Strength help in resisting Gravity Manipulation or I am drunk?
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They can actually depending on how potent the gravity hax can go.
 
I think welt can keep high 1-C via SoE in hsr too, maybe 1-B but ill think about it
as of now those levels of powers are explicitly shown with 0th power and Singularity Rebuild
and for emanators i dont even doubt its wrong to have Zephyro Cyrene and Irontomb in these tiers too
for the rest they will have to wait ig
 
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@Shiroiyo Why is Welt in the Aeon category bro 😭. We already have enough impostors here
 
I opened the category and he's not there anymore. Anyways, I think it's because I had put the category in the editor, and screenshot it to make a joke offsite, and halfway through I decided to reformat some references. I spent some time doing that and I must have forgotten to remove the aeon tag afterwards
 
Shiroiyo said:
I opened the category and he's not there anymore. Anyways, I think it's because I had put the category in the editor, and screenshot it to make a joke offsite, and halfway through I decided to reformat some references. I spent some time doing that and I must have forgotten to remove the aeon tag afterwards
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Idk which looks funnier. Welt being there on accident or Sunday being there legitimately unironically.
 
This was my lengthy response to that video and whole debate between the two characters from both lore, power scaling and narrative perspective.

It's not that Welt has the same power he had as a Herrscher(power or Reason) because he blatantly doesn't. It's that his new powers as a Pathsriders + Star of Eden make comparable if not stronger than his prime. Regardless if you consider the Star of Eden "Welt's power" is beside the point here. Even if Zepyhro and Welt are equal hax wise (defintely not stat wise). That has 0 bearing on Acheron......she can access the power of her ENTIRE Path. She has survived being consumed from a manifestion of IX before becoming and Emanator and resisted being conceptual erased from existence whenever she goes to the Horizon of Existence. If you believe Star of Eden is comparable to the Nihility then you are either grossily misinfoirmed on what each do or are delulu. I can't even really see why Star of Eden would even affect Acheron.


That girl can erase events from history so thoroughly that THE REMEMBERANCE doesn't even know they occured. That's what she's packing. No offense to Welt but the only character we know that can potentailly hang with Acheron is amppped Phainon while he burns through his existence (even then it's likely Acheron can do something similar through tainting her existence with Nihility).


To address Acheron's blade to balck hole comparison, this is irrevelent to argument becuse much like Welt....Acheron is deliberately hiding her identity and powers at this point of the story. She is downplaying herself and minimzing her involvement by aruging Welt is more dangerous because of Star of Eden. However the danger she possess has very little to do with her sword and moreso the her effects on all of existence as draws all things closer to Nihility by merely existing. We are talking about the same person ELLIO CAN'T SEE THE FUTRUE OF BECAUSE NIHILITY ERASED IT. She has no past nor future making her acausal. She can stop time, freeze space, cut trhough fate itself, travel through higher dimensions (like all Emanators), BFR you to the Horizon of Existence (which is an instant win-con), manipulate causality, erase anyone or anything from history, and even affect the power of several Paths themsleves.


I'm not a Acheron stan, I love Welt and like him more as a character but it doesn't make sense to say he's stronger than Acheron. Let's look at it narratively, if Welt is equal to Zephyro whom you think is stronger than Acheron (because you think she doesn't have galaxy level scaling even though everyone in the game does with simple logic and Emanators 12-D/Hyperversal) THEN is Phantiliya's adundance clone stronger than Zephyro? Is Dominicus also stronger than Zepyhro? Welt has fought with us against eneimes in which we desperately needed to win or everyone was ****** yet we always required outside help and a combined effort to simply stand a chance. What you proposing either makes Welt a giantic asshole or incompetent. Neither are the case.
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It's crazy how Paths and Aeons kinda wouldn't "exist" in a sense without the creation of Erudition aka Nous. Obviously they still existed on a fundamental level of reality but mortals didn't and couldn't know because that concept of discovery was absent.

However Zandar should be smart enough to realize that destroying Nous wouldn't destroy the Path nor remove the Knowledge Circle or Singularity. Erudition would still exist along with all the Aeons. Another Aeon could simply be born or even consume the Path. Not to mention if Paths and Aeons existed before then there's no stopping from this happening again since they come from the Imaginary. For his plan to work the entire nature of the cosmology would need to change.
 
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