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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

wait till 3.6 for the funniest upscale or the biggest nothing burger
Not gonna lie, Trailblazer, Evernight and Permanente Terrae tanking attacks from Irontomb will be funny to see
depending on irontomb fight, because we are being amped by Cyrene
But for now its Zandar Cyrene and Irontomb
Or the lattera and whoever is 3rd erudition playable path since i doubt zandar is (hoping its welt bro)
Welt needs an huge amp on Amphoreus or it will mess with HI3 scaling too, since HoR Bronya is still stronger than when he returned from the Sea of Quanta, who surpassed his 2nd Eruption self
 
80% sure the Astral Express cast like Trailblazer, Evernight and DHPT are definitely going to be 1-B which would scale to like those on Edo Star arcs
I can already see Redditors complaining about this chainscaling if it actually happens, they only started accepting 3-C/3-B HSR recently because of Phainon's Animated Short when stuff like that was already in the beginning of the game
 
80% sure the Astral Express cast like Trailblazer, Evernight and DHPT are definitely going to be 1-B which would scale to like those on Edo Star arcs
I mean last fights against emanators is us being carried by other emanators (JY and Acheron)
so i think the same will happen against Irontomb here
But again knowing Hoyoverse they will make bro echo of war and have us directly face him
and given how consistent black swan statement is…yeah I LOVE RPG SCALING
 
Hoyo giving both HDE and BDE statements with R>F in between while making Ryusuke gravity victim
or how tree is some metaphysical shit and then aha justs climbs it
its mostly hoyo using enigmata powers to gaslight readers
«Go, spread misinformation 🥀» Hoyo was actually an Enigmata Pathriders from the beginning 🙏
 
Tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if Aha had Plot Manip or Toon Force. Cuz it’s Elation, it’s supposed to be a “**** the rules” kinda thing.
 
Tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if Aha had Plot Manip or Toon Force. Cuz it’s Elation, it’s supposed to be a “**** the rules” kinda thing.
possible but I don't think so, after all it's the most random Aeon in the game so we'll see what the Chaotic Joy of the Nobless Worm breeder 🙏
 
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Not gonna lie, Trailblazer, Evernight and Permanente Terrae tanking attacks from Irontomb will be funny to see

Welt needs an huge amp on Amphoreus or it will mess with HI3 scaling too, since HoR Bronya is still stronger than when he returned from the Sea of Quanta, who surpassed his 2nd Eruption self
If welt was on amphoreus... It would have been over in 1 patch🗣️🗣️🗣️
 
the recent vandalism issue removed half the shit so its obv bad
But you can correct them ig
If ever real proof that shows an aspect of non-existence other than "I surpass someone who does not exist therefore I am" comes to light I think I will share it or take care of it myself (moreover speaking of vandalism there are still a lot of haxs that have no justification/links in the profiles)
For now only IX is eligible for this position
 
If ever real proof that shows an aspect of non-existence other than "I surpass someone who does not exist therefore I am" comes to light I think I will share it or take care of it myself (moreover speaking of vandalism there are still a lot of haxs that have no justification/links in the profiles)
For now only IX is eligible for this position
The true justification for the NEP Nature Type 1 of the Aeons that are not IX is that their true forms are the amalgamation of concepts within Imaginary Space, a realm that is the absolute nothingness, a void without any meaning or common sense, being the opposite of reality

The reason the previous justification was so bad is that it was my first time dealing with a page that contained complex subjects that I couldn't explain on my own on the correct way and that I didn't have any help from anyone, so sorry for the confusion.
 
The true justification for the NEP Nature Type 1 of the Aeons that are not IX is that their true forms are the amalgamation of concepts within Imaginary Space, a realm that is the absolute nothingness, a void without any meaning or common sense, being the opposite of reality

The reason the previous justification was so bad is that it was my first time dealing with a page that contained complex subjects that I couldn't explain on my own on the correct way and that I didn't have any help from anyone, so sorry for the confusion.
well if that's the real justification I have no problem with it, I just had trouble understanding how it could have happened there
 
well if that's the real justification I have no problem with it, I just had trouble understanding how it could have happened there
As I said, the problem wasn't that the ability itself being there was wrong, it was that my paraphrasing on the justifications was rubbish and caused this confusion, sorry 😭
 
The true justification for the NEP Nature Type 1 of the Aeons that are not IX is that their true forms are the amalgamation of concepts within Imaginary Space, a realm that is the absolute nothingness, a void without any meaning or common sense, being the opposite of reality

The reason the previous justification was so bad is that it was my first time dealing with a page that contained complex subjects that I couldn't explain on my own on the correct way and that I didn't have any help from anyone, so sorry for the confusion.
I'm happy, finally someone who really knows the verse
 
As I said, the problem wasn't that the ability itself being there was wrong, it was that my paraphrasing on the justifications was rubbish and caused this confusion, sorry 😭
mistakes happen to everyone, it's not that serious, I myself looked for a way to put Nep on them I just didn't find anything in Hsr ;-;
anyway if the justification is going to be modified in the future, it's because everything is fine 👍
 
Big question, is Damage Boost canon to his lore? Why is it there???
Honestly, I don't think these boosts are canon, they're more like game mechanics. The Light Cone is canon, but anything related to gameplay percentages shouldn't be, or at least I don't remember that it was canonized (I'm late btw).
 
Honestly, I don't think these boosts are canon, they're more like game mechanics. The Light Cone is canon, but anything related to gameplay percentages shouldn't be, or at least I don't remember that it was canonized (I'm late btw).
i mean lightcone effects being canon is also making dmg boosts from talents canon so im fine with this
many verses with these cases use it in their character abilities
 
i mean lightcone effects being canon is also making dmg boosts from talents canon so im fine with this
many verses with these cases use it in their character abilities
I understand it well but for my part I am not really sure that this is the case, at least for the effects of the light cones and the talents
 
It would be necessary to explain why the enemators are 1-B in the first place.
I think it's related to the fact that they draw power from the Paths? I'm not quite sure anymore whether to somehow affect the said higher-dimensional thing to adapt to its level or whether to do something else.
 
It would be necessary to explain why the enemators are 1-B in the first place.
They directly draw power from respective Aeons to the point they can perform deats such as destroying aeons manifestation (acheron killing shadow of IX) or phainon using power of destruction to damake
Nanook THEMSELVES
its all on profiles vro
 
They directly draw power from respective Aeons to the point they can perform deats such as destroying aeons manifestation (acheron killing shadow of IX) or phainon using power of destruction to damake
Nanook THEMSELVES
its all on profiles vro
Their avatars aren't normally higher dimensional beings, so I'm not really sure if they should fit in 1-B.
 
Their avatars aren't normally higher dimensional beings, so I'm not really sure if they should fit in 1-B.
they would, tjeir true forms are just conceptual form that no one can reach or touch in any way, so they have to make their physical appearance into reality, avatar creation is just their ability to manifest themselves into reality and it should not mean they are any less weaker since all feats of aeons are done trough their manifestations
 
They directly draw power from respective Aeons to the point they can perform deats such as destroying aeons manifestation (acheron killing shadow of IX) or phainon using power of destruction to damake
Nanook THEMSELVES
its all on profiles vro
Hmm, that doesn't justify 1-B in any way. What Archeron killed was an avatar of IX and Phainon even weaker because it was simulated so good. And killing an avatar doesn't affect the TF in any way, the avatars have nothing of 1-B, at the limit their powers but cannot use them completely so good, the argument of 1-B is fallacious
 
Hmm, that doesn't justify 1-B in any way. What Archeron killed was an avatar of IX and Phainon even weaker because it was simulated so good. And killing an avatar doesn't affect the TF in any way, the avatars have nothing of 1-B, at the limit their powers but cannot use them completely so good, the argument of 1-B is fallacious
i literally explained above why would their manifestations scale to 1-B but aight
Phainon being “simulation” is worse argument here because both hoyo devs and game itself confirmed that he left amphoreus to face nanook i dont get this idea of seeing these feats as nothingburger, and whats the proof of avatars having limited power when 1/3 of IT was alr destroyed by them and nanook literally shook IT when he ascended, and all of these feats are done trough their avatars and not their true metaphysical self
 
Hmm, that doesn't justify 1-B in any way. What Archeron killed was an avatar of IX and Phainon even weaker because it was simulated so good. And killing an avatar doesn't affect the TF in any way, the avatars have nothing of 1-B, at the limit their powers but cannot use them completely so good, the argument of 1-B is fallacious
Cannot understand half the things you sent, but anyway. Why are you lying here? It’s made pretty clear that Phainon drew the gaze of the ACTUAL destruction? This was NANOOK THEMSELVES that gazed on Phainon as stated in the admin panel. To outright deny this goes against the entire story of 3.4. “The argument of 1-B is fallacious cuz uhhh simulation cuz uhhh Idk I made it up lol”
 
they would, tjeir true forms are just conceptual form that no one can reach or touch in any way, so they have to make their physical appearance into reality, avatar creation is just their ability to manifest themselves into reality and it should not mean they are any less weaker since all feats of aeons are done trough their manifestations
honestly this is not enough to prove an Ap 1-B. It is only the projections of the Aeons (in both situations) that were affected and not THEIR Tf, so it doesn't count.
 
honestly this is not enough to prove an Ap 1-B. It is only the projections of the Aeons (in both situations) that were affected and not THEIR Tf, so it doesn't count.
you would need to prove they are not 1-B as avatars because literally nothing in the story proves they are weaker than “true self” because they are the same, they just manifest themselfes into reality avatars due to their superority as higher beings
And not to mention power emanators draw from them (especially Irontomb) has potential to obliterate even their true forms so them being 1-B trough paths is literally applicable
 
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