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There is no such thing as "3-D" potency anymore. Basically "Smurf" hax is now only reserved for 1-A and above. Range is fine though.
What additions would Emanators get aside from the 1-B Dimensional Travel, and Blessing?
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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread
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What additions would Emanators get aside from the 1-B Dimensional Travel, and Blessing?
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Don't think that's been updated to include the new standards in light of Agnaa's comment here
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Actually no
You can have 1-B smurf haxs, It just needs proof that it can affect a 5D or above character, proof that it can affect a 5D or higher structure
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i think this can work in favour of Acheron and Destruction emanators. ill get @Voidnether who understands hax nerdy shit more than me and we are good to go
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Guys read this carefully, this is from the haxs page about smurf haxs
Power / Potency
Abilities that are higher-dimensional (tiering-applicable) wherein their power can be concentrated onto a small area, or are qualitatively superior to the physical stats of the character, e.g. a physically Tier 7 character capable of casting a 1-A reality warping attack, or hax which has a potency that is qualitatively superior to the baseline potency. Do note that anti-feats still apply.
The typical way for an ability to be proven as being "smurf" in aspect is through having showings or statements of said ability being able to significantly harm or affect a character that it should have otherwise not been able to due to them being in a sort of transcendent state or having a beyond dimensional physiology. A typical example would be characters affecting beings that see them as mere fiction. See here for details on why characters with certain transcendences are able to resist some phenomena.
It's important to separate the case of Power or Potency from the case of Range or Area of Effect. A higher-dimensional character might be immune to manipulation of their non-physical mind due to being outside of the manipulator's range, but not due to their non-physical mind being fundamentally harder to affect. Of course, exceptions may apply if there are statements or feats that prove the opposite.
Another way an ability can be shown to have smurf potency / power is in its ability to significantly affect a structure of uncountably infinite size. E.g. existence erasure which can affect a (tiering-applicable) higher-dimensional structure or character. Note that if the ability does not have its potency focused on a relatively small object, it may not be considered to have smurf power / potency.
Lastly, if an ability overcomes a resistance which is known to operate on a qualitatively superior level it should also be considered a smurf ability.
The main advantage of an ability being considered "smurf" in power / potency is that it is assumed to be capable of overpowering all resistances that have not shown to be even close to the same level of power. This in practice means that a three dimensional character with a Low Complex Multiveral ability should be capable of overpowering the baseline resistance of a three dimensional character with only Universal+ levels of resistance.
Range / Area of Effect
Abilities which can reach or affect structures greater than the area/container a character exists in. An example would include a baseline human being who can affect whole clusters of universes or a character that is physically Multiversal who can erase 16-dimensional (Hyperversal) structures.
The important thing to note about smurf range and area of effect is that without it, many entities with certain kinds of transcendence over the user may not be significantly harmed through conventional abilities. A target that is uncountably infinite in size or superiority may exist beyond the dimensional bounds that a character is capable of significantly affecting through their abilities. In this scenario, even if a character possesses enough raw power to kill said higher-dimensional entity, if their abilities do not breach beyond the boundaries of their universe, they will be unable to affect even a portion of the entity. See here for further details.
As such, the defining distinction between a smurf ability of power, and a smurf ability of range, is that abilities with smurf range or area of effect alone do not necessarily bypass all the regular resistances on the level of the user. However, smurf abilities may not be mutually exclusive, and they may share properties of both smurf power and smurf range
Abilities that are higher-dimensional (tiering-applicable) wherein their power can be concentrated onto a small area, or are qualitatively superior to the physical stats of the character, e.g. a physically Tier 7 character capable of casting a 1-A reality warping attack, or hax which has a potency that is qualitatively superior to the baseline potency. Do note that anti-feats still apply.
The typical way for an ability to be proven as being "smurf" in aspect is through having showings or statements of said ability being able to significantly harm or affect a character that it should have otherwise not been able to due to them being in a sort of transcendent state or having a beyond dimensional physiology. A typical example would be characters affecting beings that see them as mere fiction. See here for details on why characters with certain transcendences are able to resist some phenomena.
It's important to separate the case of Power or Potency from the case of Range or Area of Effect. A higher-dimensional character might be immune to manipulation of their non-physical mind due to being outside of the manipulator's range, but not due to their non-physical mind being fundamentally harder to affect. Of course, exceptions may apply if there are statements or feats that prove the opposite.
Another way an ability can be shown to have smurf potency / power is in its ability to significantly affect a structure of uncountably infinite size. E.g. existence erasure which can affect a (tiering-applicable) higher-dimensional structure or character. Note that if the ability does not have its potency focused on a relatively small object, it may not be considered to have smurf power / potency.
Lastly, if an ability overcomes a resistance which is known to operate on a qualitatively superior level it should also be considered a smurf ability.
The main advantage of an ability being considered "smurf" in power / potency is that it is assumed to be capable of overpowering all resistances that have not shown to be even close to the same level of power. This in practice means that a three dimensional character with a Low Complex Multiveral ability should be capable of overpowering the baseline resistance of a three dimensional character with only Universal+ levels of resistance.
Range / Area of Effect
Abilities which can reach or affect structures greater than the area/container a character exists in. An example would include a baseline human being who can affect whole clusters of universes or a character that is physically Multiversal who can erase 16-dimensional (Hyperversal) structures.
The important thing to note about smurf range and area of effect is that without it, many entities with certain kinds of transcendence over the user may not be significantly harmed through conventional abilities. A target that is uncountably infinite in size or superiority may exist beyond the dimensional bounds that a character is capable of significantly affecting through their abilities. In this scenario, even if a character possesses enough raw power to kill said higher-dimensional entity, if their abilities do not breach beyond the boundaries of their universe, they will be unable to affect even a portion of the entity. See here for further details.
As such, the defining distinction between a smurf ability of power, and a smurf ability of range, is that abilities with smurf range or area of effect alone do not necessarily bypass all the regular resistances on the level of the user. However, smurf abilities may not be mutually exclusive, and they may share properties of both smurf power and smurf range
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Internal organ and pressure point stuff are just low tier hax, destruction emanators don't do those when all they do is incinerating galaxies. Existence erasure could work tho for Acheron as in 12-D
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What ability is this?
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Nonduality (Type 2 before splitting, type 1 after splitting) and Fissionism
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what abt splitting concepts, is it cm1 or 2?
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CM1, oh yeah nonduality type 2 were fissionism, after that it's type 1 + fusionism ig
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thanks bae
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Question. For the AP scaling chain
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/856621434550091776/1373440330954833951/image.png?ex=682a6b7c&is=682919fc&hm=f4d4a44fdcf513236a77c0d663ce1f8ee34892ac2cca153466b5d6114d92e7fb&
All of this is from Herta's galactic feat. Which is 5.92524 YottaFoe. And all the adjacent scaling is a direct 10x difference...
So why do they have a 0 digit in between the 5 and 9? That's not how a x10 multiplier works
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/856621434550091776/1373440330954833951/image.png?ex=682a6b7c&is=682919fc&hm=f4d4a44fdcf513236a77c0d663ce1f8ee34892ac2cca153466b5d6114d92e7fb&
All of this is from Herta's galactic feat. Which is 5.92524 YottaFoe. And all the adjacent scaling is a direct 10x difference...
So why do they have a 0 digit in between the 5 and 9? That's not how a x10 multiplier works
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So I'm currently finishing up the baby seal event and came across something. Could this work as a justification for Fate Manip? The Baby Seal event is currently live in 3.2 and Aglaea prophesied Trailblazer winning the competition and defeating Cipher in a match, along with it, reuniting with the seal that betrayed him before to beat her, and sure enough it comes true.
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its 59 yottafoe right? if so just fix it up someone prolly got confused when editing that
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boutta find the 20 profiles that has 50.9 on their profiles. Also that 240p image quality of castorice on her profile is getting to me
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i said something abt profile quality
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I didn’t know this extends to counting pixels on castoricei said something abt profile quality
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eh i disnt made the render so… and a lot of profile have those issues (just look at TB, firefly, aglaea and lingsha)
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So Cipher has a minor reality warping/illusion hax in addition to her temporary super speed. The same hax as Himiko in Majo Taisen where her lies become reality if someone believes them. It's pretty good if it works on Trailblazer and Dan Heng who didn't know anything about Amphoreus when they entered the planet.
Finished the story and everyone is dead lmao. As March would say if she wasn't frozen, "What an amazing Trailblazing adventure!"
Finished the story and everyone is dead lmao. As March would say if she wasn't frozen, "What an amazing Trailblazing adventure!"
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So ur telling me we have to also face a mf who can
destroy a galaxy in a nanosecond...
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scan please
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The entire Amphoreus tragedy comes from the scepter that was left after Anti-Organic Wars or something, wtf is rubert doing
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Question. How do you tell when the game is talking about a star system or a galaxy.
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CN: But im pretty sure entire star system thingy is just zandar writing theory abt IMG Tree, latest anniv video has shown us that the hsr world is universal in size, and Vita in Hi3 talks about countless civilizations in the universe circling around their star surrounded by img barriers something like that.
So if CN for these scans does not treat Galaxy as "star system" or anything similar we should be fine.
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Asking because the HSR Discord keeps saying this pic means star system so i cant tell anymore
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Well we even have mentions of galaxy back in the alien key manga so we should be good iclAsking because the HSR Discord keeps saying this pic means star system so i cant tell anymore
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checked Cn for this and
Yeah
Solar system = 太阳系
Galaxy = 银河
If Galaxy has exact same symbols in hsr and not solar system one we cooking
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“Nah it means star system because HI3!!”
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Weirdly enough, the translation for Traditional Chinese if you tried using DeepL, it's the same as the English one with the only difference of it being microsecond instead of nanosecond. However, it mentions "annihilating entire galaxies" instead of them being singular like Simplified Chinese which is just a singular star system..
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Well iirc DeepL IS much more reliable than google translate so if we can use DeepL end, destroying galaxies in microsecond should still be into 3-B according to that cslc you and aerna made
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How do yall feel about the new VA for Stelle and Caelus
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I switched to japanese since 2.7, i'm kinda dissapointed tho. It's just not the same anymore
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loser stelle (peak)
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