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Man, **** those verses too. Everyone knowns comics is bs but who’s gonna deal with them?It’s actually horrifying how many verses are chill with this…
But on the other hand? UES right? Honkai energy and such lets people empower weapons
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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread
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Jobbing like? i dont see them getting tossed around or getting negative diffed on screen
Fun fact vsbw DOES allow you to be on same tier with character whos much more powerful, that is as long as there isnt explicit comparasion that puts them that far above them, which outside Irontomb and Sunday case we NEVER had that LOL
okay buddy, now show me a single piece of evidence that WE scaled march to nigh aeon sunday
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Tony be building 1-A armors without even using 1-A power sources or materials it’s just stuff lying around his house.
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i fear even scaling her as low as 5-C isn’t downplay enough, 9-C is calling her name
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Did you see that for Sunday? What about Phantylia?
There’s explicit cases where some cases are much weaker than others in the same group. For example it was even re-affirmed in 4.1 that Dan Heng and Jing Yuan are the ones who allowed victory against Phantylia. It’s pretty implicit that some members aren’t supposed to be relative to some opponents at all.
And I’m saying that they have no comparison to put them there to begin with. In fact, I’m that Hoyo uses it as a narrative device to showcase groups of people where some of them (as I said above) aren’t supposed to scale to others.
Negative tracking, bro. I never said that.okay buddy, now show me a single piece of evidence that WE scaled march to nigh aeon sunday
What I presented there is a reductio to show that your conclusion leads to us scaling mfs like March or whatever to Sunday or Phantylia and wtvr else you want.
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hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahhaha.
No.
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Well.
But fr is there actually no FTL feats in hsr until irontomb? Zephyro is fine for LRs (jing yuan and dhil aswell) but everyone else idk
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the fall from grace form immeasurable wank to this is crazy
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okay but be honest, what would even be a reasoning to scale anyone bar those two to phantylia? do you even read profiles? its literally saying THIS we dont even scale them to sunday or phantylia like at all
Okay so doomsday beast one shots BoS cast? Aventurine one shots march and TB? Irontomb one shots Cyrene March DH and TB? Oh wait They tanked this exact attack too i dont know bro
Okay this is just genuine trolling because if you think this is how it goes when we powerscale characters i can only open you a door to make 90% of hsr high 6-A then. good luck
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im gonna continue 4.1, not gonna entertain this when all i see is just plumbers soloing hsr and realm flippers still getting protection from downgrades while their ass cheeks get spread open by animals ******* animals bro
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okay but be honest, what would even be a reasoning to scale anyone bar those two to phantylia? do you even read profiles? its literally saying THIS we dont even scale them to sunday or phantylia like at all
This misses my entire point. Completely flew over your head what I was saying. And that last example is horrid because I already agree with Cyrene Amp mfs scaling to Irontomb.
Not a response. Just strawmanning me over and over.
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Unironically a nothingburger when Mei, Bronya, and the characters mentioned are just deuteragonist. Deadass this is like saying the Archons are the main characters because Traveler never did any major shit except for Nod-Krai which took 6 entire regions
I have no words genuinely. Mei and Bronya are main characters by all definition. You could even argue Otto, Elysia and Kevin are main characters because these three also have major portions of the game dedicated to them and their development.
Honkai Impact 3rd is a character driven game. There is fundamentally no singular main character. Mei and Bronya are as much of main characters as Kiana is. Mei was overshadowed so they made the entirety of the Elysian Realm to develop Mei and explore the Previous Era.
'You're just being semantic' - Kiana isn't in chapters: 7, 9EX1, 9EX2, 10, 11, 12, 18, 19, 21, 25EX, 29, 30, 31 and most of what's past chapter 36 when her journey is concluded and ALL of the Elysian Realm.
This isn't counting chapters where she isn't predominantly the focus, being chapters 3, 4, 7, 16 (Mei's perspective), 23, 26, 27, 31EX, 33 and finally 34.
Why are we trying to grill and discredit Hi3 fans who have played the game when you haven't?
Stop the larp and play the game, seriously, it's peak asf. I can personally guarantee you'll enjoy the MAJORITY (and I mean that) of the game (and maybe its supplementary materials if you bother). I think it's flawed, specifically towards the start, but other than that? Genuine peak.
No one is larping because the main character is still Kiana, and we are definitely not saying Welt is a main character just because he happens to be the protagonist and Sirin as the antagonist on Second Eruption LMFAOOO, they're still deuteragonist
Also you can't be saying this when you negative tracked Completed Irontomb doesn't have Nous head when the wiki standards literally assumed both fighters are in their prime conditions (which would mean Completed Irontomb starts off with Nous head), you're larping HSR and you are already getting mad over me saying how Kiana is the main character and that everyone is just a deuteragonist, for you to even consider they're the main character despite them being a deuteragonist gotta be the funniest shit ever
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“Nous’ head”
Nous IS the head.
Nous IS the head.
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Nitpick HI3 instead, most of them don't even have their Low 1-C ratings justified (except for Kevin)
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Nous deadass only existed as a head only, the mf doesn't even have a body like the other Aeons
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I literally will once I catch up. Don’t worry on that.
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Cyrene amped mfsers are this bro its all on their profiles bro...its on PROFILES in fact, thats the post fuli gaze cyrene they were NOT amped beforehand
okay then
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DEUTERAGONIST ARE ******* MAIN CHARACTERS READ THE WIKIPEDIA PAGE
Welt is A (key word here) A MAIN CHARACTER IN HSR not THE main character A main character THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE
You and cas both said irontomb can be complete without nous’ head unless we wanna change the cyrene mfs to “fought against incomplete irontomb”
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Which was prevented by an external factor (The Herta), if The Herta never existed then Irontomb starts off with its head being Nous, it's that simple also holy semantics lol
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So you agree he can be complete without nous ty for conceding
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Oh yea btw, I was talking about Irontomb in general, but they didn’t actually tank this attack at all. You’d know if you read the quest past that cutscene. It’s actually also a major point in my Hax downgrade thread too.
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And this exact scenario is what 100% of VSMatchups are
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When was this stated
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scan or it didnt happen
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^ They escaped to Path Space in the midst of its destruction, i.e before Irontomb’s attack could fully “dissolve” everything. Keyword “dissolve” here, because Irontomb’s attack is a digital/intellectual one primarily.
Then:
^ We are told that mfs consciousnesses still exist, since Irontomb’s attack still hadn’t destroyed/killed everyone and that’d it take 1 more second. But since time is stopped within Path Space, that didn’t happen yet.
Also crucially speaking, it’s obviously implicit that TBs and Cyrene’s physical form was dissolved as well, since the same effect happened on them as with normal mfs. Plus Herta was talking to us after the attack (so her mind was also active after her physical body) plus the countdown of the population reached zero, unless for some reason you’re excluding TB and Cyrene from that. So obviously it’s talking about the physical populace, not of ones whose consciousness escaped to Path Space.
^ Fuli helped them. Also Nous as well, since it’s a major part of the climax that his Instant signaled Irontomb’s defeat. (That’s what the “Erudition Amp” ya’ll yap about actually refers to)
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Also, mind you, your original position was that both March and Dan Heng also tanked the attack. I’ll ignore that for your sake since it should be awfully clear that that’s completely untenable.
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The next feat below Doomsday. Or js Deku victim level
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okay so do you just not know that shes talking about this specific attack and not this one?
^ They escaped to Path Space in the midst of its destruction, i.e before Irontomb’s attack could fully “dissolve” everything. Keyword “dissolve” here, because Irontomb’s attack is a digital/intellectual one primarily.
Then:
^ We are told that mfs consciousnesses still exist, since Irontomb’s attack still hadn’t destroyed/killed everyone and that’d it take 1 more second. But since time is stopped within Path Space, that didn’t happen yet.
Also crucially speaking, it’s obviously implicit that TBs and Cyrene’s physical form was dissolved as well, since the same effect happened on them as with normal mfs. Plus Herta was talking to us after the attack (so her mind was also active after her physical body) plus the countdown of the population reached zero, unless for some reason you’re excluding TB and Cyrene from that. So obviously it’s talking about the physical populace, not of ones whose consciousness escaped to Path Space.
^ Fuli helped them. Also Nous as well, since it’s a major part of the climax that his Instant signaled Irontomb’s defeat. (That’s what the “Erudition Amp” ya’ll yap about actually refers to)
Because its the former that caused this and the latter just destroyed all those ships and somewhat knocked us out which i doubt given we were covered in the black tide shit around us.
because...they did? they literally got erased the moment irontomb pulled actual cosmic nuker that wiped out cosmos, while we got saved by cyrene getting gazed at by fuli.
Again you would also have to completely deny gameplay existing and assume we just had a stareoff instead of actually taking all those other attacks in his 1st phase too. but whatever this just seems like high 6-A hsr with only zephyro and irontomb being above this
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@CastoriceTheFifth all you gng
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That’s obviously the same attack. It’s js not possible to insert a cutscene into gameplay. And it’s obviously about the latter since the scans I linked only happen after that.
Genuinely speaking, do you even know what I’m talking about? Literally astounded at this response. This is Nether level shit.
@Mbpoops I honestly congratulate you from being the only Hoyo scaler to graduate from tracking academy.
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Next feat below doomsday is Himeko's continental laser which Aventurine no sold completely. Late Penacony + Fate Units could go there if we get into pits that low
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Only mfs who dont scale to Doomsday are like belobog children. No need to bring Penacony up here
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saying this when it was ships exploding then irontomb destroying cosmos instead of ships getting destroyed and entire cosmos getting destroyed which is literally the cutscene proves my point. but whatever take scoopsie with you, that is if you agree yanqing and yunli are one shot level above phantylia bcs this is exactly what he proposed lol.
like cutscene is literally showing an opposite of what u talk about and u still do this
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eh then it'd be cocolia's stelleron freezing Jarilo which is a high 6-B common feat, below that the engine of creation could make earthquakes/tremors detected by Svarog in the underworld which is vaguely tier 7
edit: yeah there really is nothing for those actually below doomsday beast
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I will, actually. I appreciate my femboys.
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