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Hitman Reborn Pages Overhaul
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What I'm making is an inference which is a conclusion reached on the basis of evidence and reasoning.
Not everything has to be stated to reach a logical conclusion
The reason why I made an inference on Byakuran being 0% of Ghost Absorbed Flames is that
1.) Ghost's Only Absorbs Tsuna and Co's Flames, Byakuran is not included as he Absorbs the flames Ghost Absorbs later on.
2) Byakuran was also not in the premise when Ghost started absorbing and only arrives after Tsuna defeats Ghost.
Base Byakuran has no influence on the Flames that Ghost Absorbed fighting Tsuna and Co therefore he makes up 0% of Ghost absorbed flames.
Unless you can provide evidence as to why I can't make this inference I am inclined to believe he has zero influence on the flames ghost absorbed pre byakuran absorbing ghost
Not everything has to be stated to reach a logical conclusion
The reason why I made an inference on Byakuran being 0% of Ghost Absorbed Flames is that
1.) Ghost's Only Absorbs Tsuna and Co's Flames, Byakuran is not included as he Absorbs the flames Ghost Absorbs later on.
2) Byakuran was also not in the premise when Ghost started absorbing and only arrives after Tsuna defeats Ghost.
Base Byakuran has no influence on the Flames that Ghost Absorbed fighting Tsuna and Co therefore he makes up 0% of Ghost absorbed flames.
Unless you can provide evidence as to why I can't make this inference I am inclined to believe he has zero influence on the flames ghost absorbed pre byakuran absorbing ghost
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In case you don't know, an 100% amp is the same as a 2x amp.
Putting this in (round down) numbers, Base Byakuran would be 50 Zettatons, Ghost Byakuran would be 100 Zettatons and he would only use 10 Zettatons to defeat Pre-OVR Tsuna.
Yes, he is stronger but he isn't 10x stronger
Wrong, that's never stated and Byakuran is literally the only 5B character, no one would contribute that much to his power.
Yes, all you're saying here is right but either doesn't apply cause Byakuran isn't a 0 compared to Ghost or doesn't mean he is 10x stronger than he was before absorbing Ghost.
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Oh, that's probably true
Strawman, I never said he's 0 compared to Ghost, I said he attributes to 0% of the Flames Ghost Absorbed because last time I checked Byakuran's Flames wasn't Absorbed when Ghost arrived in the battlefield nor was he even there to begin with
I am willing to reach a compromise
Byakuran: 59.44 Zettatons
Ghost Absorbed: >59.44 Zettatons
OVR: Double Full powered Byakuran
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I mean, sure, but in this case you were trying to say that because he is a 0% (as he wasn't part of DWF absorbed) and he only used 10x to block X Burner he would be 10x his base, but i think you have already understood why that's wrong.
Yeah, the compromise is fine (that's what i was going to propose after we finished, as any value increase here would be an assumption).
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Okay good, is there anyway to downscale from this to Pre OVR Tsuna?
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Wouldn't it be better to go to the manga and check all our facts before we start assuming things?
I don't even remember the 10% statement.
I don't even remember the 10% statement.
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I double checked... he doesn't say he used 10% of his power...
He says he has not even used 10% of the flames he absorbed from Ghost.
Here's the scan:
He says he has not even used 10% of the flames he absorbed from Ghost.
Here's the scan:
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Nope, Tsuna at that point has no feats against Byakuran iirc.
I mean, the end result doesn't change, and it's not that different anyway.
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Okay just to Summarize
Byakuran = 59.44 Zettatons, Higher with Ghost Absorbed flames
Tsuna with Original Vongola Ring = 118.88 Zettatons (Used Half his power against Byakuran)
Enma= At least 118.88 Zettatons(Dominated Original Vongola Ring Tsuna)
Byakuran = 59.44 Zettatons, Higher with Ghost Absorbed flames
Tsuna with Original Vongola Ring = 118.88 Zettatons (Used Half his power against Byakuran)
Enma= At least 118.88 Zettatons(Dominated Original Vongola Ring Tsuna)
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When? He only uses half his strength against Byakuran
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And byakuran was using 75%
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He uses full power after getting overpowered by tsuna and tsuna still using half of his since there's no statement of him saying he's using any more than that
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I think it's always best to fact-check.
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We settled on this, just waiting for Yukasama4 to clear up his contentions
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Mb correct
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Okay we have reached a conclusion now.
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Is it fine to apply now?
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okay i have added everything except on the verse page, i don't really know how to word it.
I was thinking,
I was thinking,
- The Planet level characters, such as Byakuran, have their statistics based on the Average Planet Destruction (59.44 Zettatons of TNT). For Tsuna it is based on 2x of previous values (118.88 Zettatons of TNT).
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okay how is this
- The Likely Planet level characters, such as Byakuran, have their statistics based on the Average Planet Destruction, which stems from Byakuran Destroying Ghost's World, which is parallell to the main verse's World (59.44 Zettatons of TNT). For Tsuna it is based on 2x of previous values (118.88 Zettatons of TNT).
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Okay changes have been done. This concludes everything. I'd still like for this thread to be open so i can promote a part 2(yeah it's gonna take forever lmao)
Thank you everyone for helping out!
Thank you everyone for helping out!
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Okay that's a better option. Thank You
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Here is the continuation thread:
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