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Highest AP for each tier, the sequel

Ned_the_outer_god

Ned_the_outer_god

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Who has the strongest AP for their tier? Lets see who has the strongest AP for their tier. This excludes Tier 0, 11-C, 11-B and High 1-A though. Please try to add CRTs and the amount of tons or joules if they are below High 3-A.

Also Don't add characters if they aren't:
  • 10-C - 20 Joules
  • 10-B - 70 Joules
  • 10-A - 150 Joules
  • 9-C - 7.5 Kilojoules
  • 9-B - 0.0025 Kilojoules
  • 9-A - 0.25 Tons
  • 8-C - 1 Ton
  • High 8-C - 5.5 Tons
  • 8-B - 50 Tons
  • 8-A - 500 Tons
  • Low 7-C - 2.9 Kiloton
  • 7-C - 50 Kilotons
  • High 7-C - 500 Kilotons
  • Low 7-B - 3.15 Megatons
  • 7-B - 50 Megatons
  • 7-A - 500 Megatons
  • High 7-A - 2.15 Gigatons
  • 6-C - 50 Gigatons
  • High 6-C - 500 Gigatons
  • Low 6-B - 3.5 Teratons
  • 6-B - 50 Teratons
  • High 6-B - 380 Teratons
  • 6-A - 2.2175 Petatons
  • High 6-A - 14.8 Exatons
  • 5-C - 216.5 Exatons
  • Low 5-B - 29.72 Zettatons
  • 5-B - 1.35 Yottatons
  • 5-A - 8.256 Ninatons
  • High 5-A - 3.7525 Tenatons
and so on.... (Half the highest end Joule/Ton/Foe requirement)

Tier 11​

11-A:​

  1. Bill Cipher (Gravity Falls)
  2. Buttercup (Horse Destroys the Universe)


Tier 10​

10-C:​





10-B:​





10-A:​

  1. SCP-011 (SCP Foundation) - 10-A+ Punches
  2. Baymax (Big Hero 6) - 270 Joules
  3. Phoenix Wright - 210.6 Joules

Tier 9​

9-C:​





9-B:​

  1. Characters from Henry Stickmin - 20.7661754278 megajoules
  2. Kool-Aid Man (Adventures of Kool-Aid Man) -20.036 megajoules
  3. Characters from Gravity Falls - 17.2511266089224 megajoules

9-A:​

  1. Characters from Assasin's Creed - 0.2499841826 tons of TNT
  2. Marius Titus (Ryse Son of Rome) - 0.2498677893 tons of TNT
  3. Alcatraz and other nanosuit users (Crysis) - 0.24908062219735 tons of TNT
  4. Jim Lake Jr (Trollhunters) - 0.2463548452987572 Tons of TNT

Tier 8​

8-C:​

  1. Characters from Regular Show - 1.99701924746 tons
  2. Geralt of Riskia and Saskia (The Witcher) - 1.96 tons of TNT
  3. Wonder Woman (DC Extended Universe) - 1.94 tons of TNT

High 8-C:​

  1. Mettle (Marvel Comics) - 7.9 tons
  2. Qin Mu (Tales of Herding Gods) - 7.54 tons of TNT
  3. Monster Detlaff and Mutation Geralt of Riskia (The Witcher) - 6.86 tons

8-B:​





8-A​

  1. Henry Stickmin (Henry Stickmin) - 882 tons feat

Tier 7​

Low 7-C:​





7-C:​





High 7-C:​

  1. Ruin (Seven Deadly Sins) - 948 Kilotons
  2. Characters from BFDI - 937.2294396131065923 kilotons


Low 7-B:​





7-B:​





7-A:​

  1. Tochiro Suzuki (Mob Pyscho 100) - Downscales from High 7-A
  2. Linley Baruch (Coiling Dragon) - 3.2285637e+18 joules


High 7-A:​

  1. Characters from MCU - 1.5755e19 Joules
  2. Linley Baruch (Coiling Dragon) - 1.2914255e+19 joules


Tier 6​

6-C:​





High 6-C:​





Low 6-B:​

  1. Dry Leonhard (Knight Run)



6-B:​

  1. Novel Kars (Jorge Joestar)



High 6-B:​





6-A:​





High 6-A:​

  1. Hibiki Tachibana (Senki Zesshou Symphogear) - Scales to a beam that was going destroy 90% of the moon
  2. Captain Planet - 23 exatons
  3. Sonic (Archie Pre-Genesis Wave) - 16.7 Exatons
  4. Steven Universe (Steven Universe) - 4 Exatons

Tier 5​

5-C:​

  1. Characters from Naruto - 355.31 Exatons



Low 5-B:​





5-B:​

  1. Space Colony ARK (Sonic X) - 2.64 Yottatons



5-A:​

  1. Characters from Mega Man - 11.42 Ninatons
  2. Offspring (Megaton Rainfall) - 9 Ninatons
  3. Characters from Sonic The Hedgehog - 3.736 ninatons

High 5-A:​

  1. Xue Ying (Lord Xue Ying) - 1.6390106e+39 joules



Tier 4​

Low 4-C:​





4-C:​





High 4-C:​

  1. Sailor Moon - 20 Foe
  2. Characters from Dragon Ball
  3. Xue Ying (Lord Xue Ying) - 5.0018636e+44 joules

4-B:​

  1. Iczer-1 (Iczer)
  2. Invisible Dragon (Invisible Dragon) - 2.84635173 TeraFoe
  3. Characters from Sailor Moon
  4. Characters from Warhammer 40,000

4-A:​

  1. Void Termina (Kirby)



Tier 3​

3-C:​





3-B:​

  1. Xue Ying (Lord Xue Ying) - His waist is 10% of the cosmos



3-A:​

  1. The Phoenix (Phoenix) - Macrocosm Stuff
  2. Yang Qi (Sage Monarch) - 9.295353e+135 joules
  3. Vegito Blue (Dragon Ball Super) - Trillions above baseline
  4. Ultraman Zero (Ultra Galaxy Legend) - 21870000x Baseline

High 3-A:​

  1. Characters from Fire Emblem - Some characters significantly scale above Hel, who continuously becomes stronger by a sizeable amount for every death in the FE multiverse, and there are infinite universes.



Tier 2​

Low 2-C:​

  1. Gogeta (Dragon Ball Super) - Half2-C
  2. Invisible Dragon (Invisible Dragon) - 5,783,458,765,666² above baseline


2-C:​

  1. Hyper Sonic (Sonic The Hedgehog) - Hundreds of universes



2-B:​





2-A:​

  1. Characters from Dungeons and Dragons - Infinitely*Infinitely*Infinitely above Baseline



Tier 1​

Low 1-C:​





1-C:​





High 1-C:​

  1. Simon The Digger - Infinite time 11 above baseline
  2. Characters from Doctor Who - Infinitely above baseline


1-B:​

  1. Characters from I/O (Multiple Characters scale to a countless amount of layers which all are equal to 12-D)



High 1-B:​





Low 1-A:​





1-A:​





 
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Simon the Digger for #1 High 1-C; At least 11 times Infinite Baseline, likely at least 231 times Infinite Baseline

Edit: There’s a crt currently going on that will straight up put him at At least 231 times Infinite Baseline
 
You should probably look back in the previous thread for more suggestions, since the OP of the previous one abandoned it and never added those
 
The Supreme Archetype and The Clear Light for Tier 0

G1 Optimus scales above 9 exatons and should be number 4 for High 6-A

The One for number 2 in 2-A.

It's scaling chain is:

The One > Abstract Unicron >>> Avatar Unicron >>> The True Star Saber > Transformers Multiverse => Baseline 2-A
 
Got a few suggestions of mine that were missed previously:

1. #3 for 8-A would be characters from IDW Sonic with 877.81 Tons of TNT

2. #1 for Low 7-B would be Sonic OVA's Mountain Toppling feat with 4.69886472 Megatons

3. #3 in High 7-C would be Stormy Weather's feat of covering Paris in storm - 808.5369024856596952 Kilotons

4. #1 in 7-A would be Stormy Weather's feat of freezing France - 938.04885277246654034 Megatons

5. #1 in 7-C would be Plagg's Cataclysm - 87.526936 Kilotons

6. Dragon Ball Toei would be #5 in 4-B, with 943 MegaFoe feat from 100% Frieza, and a long scaling chain up to the Cell Games Saga

7. SSJ Goku (DBZ Manga) for #1 Low 4-C, as:

SSJ Goku = 50 * Frieza Saga Base Goku >> Vegeta (Frieza Saga) >> Third Form Frieza >> Second Form Frieza >> First Form Frieza = 1.75 Tenatons casually

This would make SSJ Goku >>>>>> 87.5 Tenatons

8. Toei Son Goku Kaioken times 4 (Saiyan Saga) for #1 High 5-A - scales to being 4 times stronger than this 1.8052 Tenatons feat, meaning he's 7.2208 Tenatons

9. SSJ Bardock for #2 Low 4-C for being 50 times above the feat mentioned previously.
That would make him 90.26 Tenatons. However he would be below SSJ Goku due to Goku having a massive scaling chain above the feat

10. SSJ3 Toei Goku for #1 3-C with him being 3.070048 YottaFOE from merely transforming into the form, meaning he's >>>>>> said feat
 
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Ned_the_outer_god said:
Could someone give me a list of the characters to be added?
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What I suggested
Characters from My Hero Academia for Low 7-B they scale to 5.48 Megatons

Katsuki Bakugo for High 8-C he is 8.12 Tons

Ryomen Sukuna from Jujutsu Kaisen for Low 7-B he scales above 4.07 Megatons/1.7045536e+16 Joules


Bring in characters from Honkai Impact 3rd for High 6-B they scale to 1% of 60.69Petatons Aka 606.9 Teratons

Bring in characters from Honkai impact 3rd for High 6-C they scale above 860 Gigatons

What Gilad Suggested


1. #3 for 8-A would be characters from IDW Sonic with 877.81 Tons of TNT

2. #2 for Low 7-B would be Sonic OVA's Mountain Toppling feat with 4.69886472 Megatons

3. #3 in High 7-C would be Stormy Weather's feat of covering Paris in storm - 808.5369024856596952 Kilotons

4. #1 in 7-A would be Stormy Weather's feat of freezing France - 938.04885277246654034 Megatons

5. #1 in 7-C would be Plagg's Cataclysm - 87.526936 Kilotons

6. Dragon Ball Toei would be #5 in 4-B, with 943 MegaFoe feat from 100% Frieza, and a long scaling chain up to the Cell Games Saga

7. SSJ Goku (DBZ Manga) for #1 Low 4-C, as:

SSJ Goku = 50 * Frieza Saga Base Goku >> Vegeta (Frieza Saga) >> Third Form Frieza >> Second Form Frieza >> First Form Frieza = 1.75 Tenatons casually

This would make SSJ Goku >>>>>> 87.5 Tenatons

8. Toei Son Goku Kaioken times 4 (Saiyan Saga) for #1 High 5-A - scales to being 4 times stronger than this 1.8052 Tenatons feat, meaning he's 7.2208 Tenatons

9. SSJ Bardock for #2 Low 4-C for being 50 times above the feat mentioned previously.
That would make him 90.26 Tenatons. However he would be below SSJ Goku due to Goku having a massive scaling chain above the feat

10. SSJ3 Toei Goku for #1 3-C with him being 3.070048 YottaFOE from merely transforming into the form, meaning he's >>>>>> said feat
 
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Unless destroying more of those multiverses is treated as needing more power than destroying one, Arceus is just far above baseline.
 
Planck69 said:
Unless destroying more of those multiverses is treated as needing more power than destroying one, Arceus is just far above baseline.
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Oh ok. Then if so he should probably be #3 after DBH Grand Priest. I do recall that the more universes stuff affects range though but not AP, but since this thread is AP only, it doesn't matter
 
DnD for 1st 2A
(Inf^inf^inf)
IIRC
Abyss = Inf realms > Inf material planes > Inf universes and timelines

DC especially Sup 1M Rebirth
1M Rebirth >>>>> Superman Rebirth >>>> World Forger = Mobius => Heavily amp Spectre >>>>>>>> baseline 1A
DC is Inf^Inf baseline IIRC.
 
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In DC's case, it's still baseline since they don't show whether or not it takes more energy to destroy more than one set of infinite universes.
 
Lemongifted101 said:
Oh in case of Vegito Blue
why he is trillions
really ?
could someone explain me about their scaling chain.
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I'll explain it here:

Explainations for the multipliers for AP:

Using Low-Balled multipliers based on the feats:

SSJ = 50 * Base

SSJ2 = 2 * SSJ (Since 50% SSJ2 Gohan > Super Perfect Cell >> Perfect Cell >> SSJ Gohan)

SSJ3 = 2 * SSJ2 (Majin Vegeta was stomped effortlessly by Fat Buu, while SSJ3 Goku stomped Fat Buu effortlessly)

SSJG = 50 * SSJ3 (When fighting Suppressed Beerus for the first time, he thought even Super Vegito couldn't defeat him, while Buu Saga Base Vegito is already > SSJ3 Goku. However, as a Super Saiyan God, Goku could fight with Suppressed Beerus equally and could survive his hits. The power was also described as dimensions apart from the regular SSJ forms while he fought against Caulifla and Kale)

SSJB = 50 * SSJG (Is literally called "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan", is described as "a Super Saiyan with the power of Super Saiyan God", and is also described as a Super Saiyan God who goes Super Saiyan on top of it)

Now for scaling:

BoG SSJG Goku = RoF Base Goku = 220 * Baseline 3-A = 1 (for scaling purposes)

RoF SSJ Goku = 50 * 1 = 50
RoF SSJ2 Goku = 2 * 50 = 100
RoF SSJ3 Goku = 2 * 100 = 200
RoF SSJG Goku = 50 * 200 = 10,000
RoF SSJB Goku = 50 * 10,000 = 500,000

U6 SSJB Goku = 500,000 (Even assuming he didn't became any stronger despite training in the Room of Spirit and Time for 3 years)

Base Goku Black (Post Zenkai) = U6 SSJB Vegeta = 500,000

SSJR Goku Black = 50 * 500,000 = 25,000,000 (Super Saiyan Rosé is described to be the same as Super Saiyan Blue, but it used by Saiyan deites, compared to Saiyan Mortals who use SSJB instead. Even if we dismiss it, it should be at least as strong as the SSJ multiplier)

Goku Black Saga SSJB Goku = 25,000,000 (Matched Goku Black in their second rematch)

Enraged SSJB Goku = 2 * 25,000,000 = 50,000,000 (Effortlessly stomped Goku Black after becoming enraged)

SSJR Goku Black (Post 2nd Zenkai) = 2 * 50,000,000 = 100,000,000 (After recieving a zenkai, Goku Black reversed the stomp and effortlessly stomped Goku)

SSJB Goku (End of Goku Black Saga) = SSJB Vegeta = 1.5 * 100,000,000 = 150,000,000 (Easily overpowered Goku Black in their final battle, with Goku Black stating that their gap in power is very big)

SSJR Rosé Goku Black (Post Final Zenkai) = 10 * 150,000,000 = 1,500,000,000 (After his final zenkai, Goku Black's power was so immense it surpassed his own umderstanding, and was described by Gowasu as the strongest character at the time, which makes him superior to SSJBKK10 Goku)

Base Vegito (Goku Black Saga) = (150,000,000 + 150,000,000) * 10 = 3,000,000,000 (A potara fusions power is described by Vados to be more than the sum of the fusees power, and multiply it by tens of times. This would make Vegito at least 10 times stronger than SSJB Goku and Vegeta)

SSJ Vegito = 50 * 3,000,000,000 = 150,000,000,000

SSJ2 Vegito = 2 * 150,000,000,000 = 300,000,000,000

SSJ3 Vegito = 2 * 300,000,000,000 = 600,000,000,000

SSJG Vegito = 600 Billion * 50 = 30 Trillion

SSJB Vegito (Vegito Blue) = 30 Trillion * 50 = 1.5 Quadrillion

Now, as 1 = 220 * Baseline 3-A, Vegito Blue's power is:

Vegito Blue = 220 * 1.5 Quadrillion = 330 Quadrillion times Baseline 3-A, or 9.32250000e+109 joules
 
You know you can’t just assume multipliers for forms like SSG and SS Rose where the multiplier is unknown right? Also you can’t assume there’s a 2x multiplier just because you stomped someone.

I remember there was a much better low balled chain for Vegito a few years back. I’ll see if I could find it.
 
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Peter1129 said:
You know you can’t just assume multipliers for forms like SSG and SS Rose where the multiplier is unknown right? Also you can’t assume there’s a 2x multiplier just because you stomped someone.

I remember there was a much better chain for Vegito a few years back. I’ll see if I could find it. If not I’ll make one myself.
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Ok. Though you realize Vegito would still be in the Quadrillions even if I remove the stomps right?

The forms themselves for multipliers are also based on actual canon material, including SSJG and SSJB, so this is why I used these numbers
 
Yeah I know but the site doesn’t accept any dragon ball multipliers other than Kaioken, Super Saiyan 1, and I think fusion. So you should only use those and just assume the rest are unknown. That’s what all the past multiplier chains have done.
 
Yeah, I could understand the reasoning for SSJB’s multiplier, but for SSJG’s multiplier, it seems to be unknown. The first time around, it brought Goku from 4-B to 3-A, which is an exponentially large jump in power, and it isn’t just baseline 3-A, it’s literally 220 times baseline. Later appearances don’t make this transformation have a multiplier that large anymore, what with him taking SSJG’s immense power into his SSJ form
 
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