Hell is truly forever! Hazbin Hotel downgrades

[Mr. Bambu]

Jokes aside I dunno from where to really start.

I can look into it later. At college currently.

You did not really reply to this, btw.

Iron can vaporize. Where the wood incinerates, presumably the iron would vaporize.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Iron can vaporize. Where the wood incinerates, presumably the iron would vaporize.

I was specifically talking about incineration, you can't do that to metals I mean.

 

[FinePoint]

Even though I'm home, I do have a kidney stone now and still can't fully contribute.

However, I thought I'd stop by just to say that the calculation I made was lazy and included a lot of guesswork.

I made it only as sort of an emergency response to the previous feats being axed completely. I don't typically do calculations and it shows.

That is to say, I welcome and encourage literally any calculation with more effort than my own for the same feat to be made and used instead.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

So, can this be implemented now or do we need something more?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

So, can this be implemented now or do we need something more?

Grace for CRTs is 48 hours from the creation of the thread.

 

[AppleMaker]

I guess my "Humanity vs Hellaverse" matchup will become fairier with this one

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I guess my "Humanity vs Hellaverse" matchup will become fairier with this one

High 6-A Top Tiers:

 

[AppleMaker]

High 6-A Top Tiers:

I'll restrict them. Also who and which feat scales to that level?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I'll restrict them. Also who and which feat scales to that level?

All Overlords and those who are stronger, also Аngelic Weapons. Scale/downscale to this:

Below Heaven - Made in Hell

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Although Overlords will become Tier 6, I'd be glad if Alastor had his Low 7-C recalc re-added to his profile, since we now do accept that he crushed that ship.
(Also that'd temporarily upgrade Vox who is currently accepted to scale to him as well as gay bird with kinks and Deadly Sins)

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Although Overlords will become Tier 6, I'd be glad if Alastor had his Low 7-C recalc re-added to his profile, since we now do accept that he crushed that ship.
(Also that'd temporarily upgrade Vox who is currently accepted to scale to him as well as gay bird with kinks and Deadly Sins)

Nothing displeases me more than knowing that, no matter what how much Alastor stocks rise, Stolas continues to be able to leach off my goat

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Although Overlords will become Tier 6, I'd be glad if Alastor had his Low 7-C recalc re-added to his profile, since we now do accept that he crushed that ship.

Shouldn't that be a seperate Crt?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Nothing displeases me more than knowing that, no matter what how much Alastor stocks rise, Stolas continues to be able to leach off my goat

Ikr
Get that 2019 unsure-VivziePop-statement merchant out of here. I'll need to somehow delete that stream from existence...

Shouldn't that be a seperate Crt?

I mean, this CRT concerns calcs and pre-Tier 6 scaling, so it'd kinda fit, methinks

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Ikr
Get that 2019 unsure-VivziePop-statement merchant out of here. I'll need to somehow delete that stream from existence...

Genuinely hope that the Helluva/Hazbin Stuff coming later on makes it so we don't need that statement

I mean, this CRT concerns calcs and pre-Tier 6 scaling, so it'd kinda fit, methinks

fairs

 

[StrymULTRA]

So, can this be implemented now or do we need something more?

What's with the impatience?

We need the 9-A Cherri calc. And also a consesus about the vaporization bit.

 

[Vzearr]

But when I.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Although Overlords will become Tier 6, I'd be glad if Alastor had his Low 7-C recalc re-added to his profile, since we now do accept that he crushed that ship.

On this it depends on how staff sees it.

I can look into it later. At college currently.

The OP makes sense to me.

What do you think about Alastor being Low 7-C again based on the calculation above?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I'm confused. We now accept that he crushed the ship, but the calc wasn't applied?

 

[StrymULTRA]

I'm confused. We now accept that he crushed the ship, but the calc wasn't applied?

No, I mean the Low 7-C explosion, it wasn't scaled to Alastor back then because it was said before it was just a byproduct of the ship exploding than a direct act of Alastor's doing, but there was an argument for that being indeed Alastor's doing as the ship exploded only when Alastor closed his fist and was irradiated by a pink energy.

I wonder what you think about that.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

But this was accepted somewhere? And not applied? I'm wondering if you need my approval at all, hence my questioning.

 

[StrymULTRA]

But this was accepted somewhere? And not applied? I'm wondering if you need my approval at all, hence my questioning.

I have no idea (ask that to @TheOrangeGuy09 for details), I am just asking if that was ok with you as well to further cement the application.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

But this was accepted somewhere? And not applied? I'm wondering if you need my approval at all, hence my questioning.

It was originally removed cause we weren’t sure whether it was Alastor’s explosion manipulation or the ship’s own power source detonating, but it being steam based puts the latter interpretation into question.

 

[KLOL506]

I'd want this laid out as a calc, maybe we could figure out the value for glass? It seems there probably is one, one would just hope it can be reliably determined from figures available online.

Either way. I am fine with treating it as a low-end of pulv, I just also don't think vaporization is absurd given the visuals; it's a rare instance where I think the original assumption was reasonably well grounded.

I would prefer to give it a couple days, if at least one other staff could speak on the 7-C thing, yeah. Everything else I consider accepted, though.

I am in agreement with this.

 

[Zyurtunder13]

Genuinely hope that the Helluva/Hazbin Stuff coming later on makes it so we don't need that statement

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that if the crossover gets greenlight and Stolas gets his powers for that time they would get presented as either equals or Stolas being superior

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that if the crossover gets greenlight and Stolas gets his powers for that time they would get presented as either equals or Stolas being superior

atp, i don't even care if vizie makes stolas superior despite my agenda, i just want stolas scaling to not be off one statement with vizie being literally unsure

 

[Zyurtunder13]

atp, i don't even care if vizie makes stolas superior des[pite my agenda, i just want stolas scaling to not be off one statement with vizie being literally unsure

Yeah, crap coming from old statements is dumb

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that if the crossover gets greenlight and Stolas gets his powers for that time they would get presented as either equals or Stolas being superior

(Or Stolas would die to a random Overlord!)

 

[Zyurtunder13]

(Or Stolas would to a random Overlord!)

You know that Vivzie and her crew loves Stolas too much for them to do something like that

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I was specifically talking about incineration, you can't do that to metals I mean.

Getting back to this: Yeah. So it wouldn't incinerate. It would have a distinct reaction to the heat. I'm not sure what the dilemma is.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I have no idea (ask that to @TheOrangeGuy09 for details), I am just asking if that was ok with you as well to further cement the application.

It was originally removed cause we weren’t sure whether it was Alastor’s explosion manipulation or the ship’s own power source detonating, but it being steam based puts the latter interpretation into question.

If it wasn't accepted, I'd prefer it to have its own thing, rather than having it sort of glued on here without proper evidence and discussion, I think.

 

[Mythic381]

So what exactly got accepted here?

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

So what exactly got accepted here?

Due to the downgrades and removal of calced feats like Pentious barely surviving the pilot explosion due to him literally dying to said explosion, pentious surving the Alastor explosion due to being an outlier with all the other stuff (mundane 9-B stuff like getting crushed by a boulder that Vivzie is unsure they survived or just died and regened, getting run over by a car, and al's now 9-A tentacles bullying Pentious), Sinner cast of Hazbin Like Pentious and those relative (cherri and angel) scale to imps due to cherri combating and eventually defeating Val's robo fizz model, one of said models able to do battle with I.m.p., and Cherri regularly tussles with Pentious. Also due to the fact they're scaling to imps now, they get class K from the multitude of class K feats but Class M is no more.
Adam's beams were calced and accepted to be Mach 1.82 and Lucifer's flight speed is Mach 1.64, which is great supportive for supersonic since we already have Mach 3.64 shok.wav
Only Al scales to MCB with other overlords get 9-A from Vox feats

 

[StrymULTRA]

I'd want this laid out as a calc, maybe we could figure out the value for glass? It seems there probably is one, one would just hope it can be reliably determined from figures available online.

Apparently glass can't be really vaporized, but silica makes up for around 70% of its composition, and that would go along its 18% of soda and 12% of lime, so that's a start.

Regarding the mass of the glass in question:

((1946.37/2) + (260.8/2))

Together these make up 1103.585 m^3. Density of flat soda-lime glass (the one I am using here for simplicity) is 2530 kg/m^3, and the mass is 2792070.05 kg.

• Silica = 70% = 1954449.035 kg

For silica (values from here)
Specific heat = 710 j/kg
Latent heat of vaporization = 359 kj/mol = 5975366.1784 j/kg (using 60.8 g/mol as molecular weight)
TOTAL = (710 * 2900 * 1954449.035) + (5975366.1784 * 1954449.035) = 1.570275922e+13 Joules

Tried the other two, but soda has not a true value, and lime is still unknown, meaning that we gotta stick with just silica for the time being.

1.570275922e+13 + 7.594638643e+13 = 9.16491456e13 Joules or 21.9 KiloTons (still 7-C)

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

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[Apex_Predator_GX]

Nothing displeases me more than knowing that, no matter what how much Alastor stocks rise, Stolas continues to be able to leach off my goat

Yeah...

 

[FinePoint]

@Psychomaster35 @TheRustyOne

I was asked to ping some CGMs.