Heard this was a controversial matchup despite the difference in tiers...LUCINA VS SABER ARTORIA.

[Bobepipipiri]

High 6-C Future Past Lucina vs Rin's servant Saber Low 7-B/High 7-A (Is that the stronest canon Artoria?)
Both are royals, kinda flat, failed to save their homeland and are the mascots of FEH and FGO.

Speed equalized
Avalon restricted

Saber (Fate/stay night)

Saber (セイバー, Seibā?) is the Saber-class Servant of Kiritsugu Emiya during the Fourth Holy Grail War, and then of his son, Shirou Emiya, during the Fifth. Her actual name is Artoria Pendragon, better known as King Arthur, the "Once and Future King" and a legendary hero of Britain. She became king...

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Lucina (Future Past)

Tier: 7-C | At least High 6-C, possibly 4-A Key: Base | After the Awakening Ritual Name: Lucina Origin: Fire Emblem Gender: Female Age: Around 20 (Oldest member of the second generation, after Nah and Yarne) Classification: Human (she can have Grima's blood if Female Robin is her mother) Powers...

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[Expectro2000xxx]

As far I understand all the artorias are canon, but well, because of the nature of somes like Mysterious Heroine X I can understand if they excluded, regardless Artoria Lancer is more powerful and the Artoria from Extra it's 2-a if I'm not wrong, there is currently a CRT to make her a key, but whatever, is not important to the battle I guess.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Theres also Ruler artoria

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Theres also Ruler artoria

I know, I just mention the Lancer one because one can believe more easily that she is canon instead of his bunny version of Las Vegas, both are canon, but the difference in impact it's great.

 

[Bobepipipiri]

Well, the most well known from is the saber from the original VN.
Perhaps it is a controversial matchup since people think FE characters are all normal humans?

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Well, the most well known from is the saber from the original VN.
Perhaps it is a controversial matchup since people think FE characters are all normal humans?

They have things mystical so there shouldn't be a problem in that regard and characters from series like Baki can evade lighting and destroy easily buildings even if they are "normal humans", so in that aspect there also shouldn't be a problem. If there are a problem could be something about the lore of both, or something like that.

 

[Randomlamdom]

Low 7-b vs high 6-c, stomp

 

[Bobepipipiri]

I mostly wanted to make this thread because people argued Lucina gets stomped on 4chan and both Fate/FE Discord servers.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Low 7-b vs high 6-c, stomp

There is a current CRT that could maybe make the servants scale to 6-c or 6-b in general, so maybe should be better wait for that to finish and see if then they can fight, that or there are some sort of hax or something that can make the AP difference irrelevant?

 

[Bobepipipiri]

Well, Lucina CAN hit intangibles and spirits, so her fighting a servant is no problem.
She has ways to negate half of Artoria's durability and constantly healing herself with Aether and Falchion, also her High 6-C is from a casual Grima flying around, not fighting.

While i disagree with it, Lucina has passive mindhax on her profile.

Aside of Avalon, i just do no think Saber has much that can close the gap. Even Excaliblast wont do her any good.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

With how the current tiers are the Artorias that win against Lucy are the Lancer versión, Lancer Alter, Ruler, Mysterious Heroine X Alter, and Mysterious Heroine X if speed unequalized, if there was a key for Mysterious Heroine XX (I want a key of her) then she would also win against Lucina, there don't seem to be a Artoria that fight in equal conditions, one of two, they are weaker in AP or they stomp in AP and speed.

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Well, with speed equalized maybe Mysterious Heroine X could fight her? The profile say that she have durability negation, if speed unequalized then Mysterious Heroine X stomp.

 

[Bobepipipiri]

Indeed. She does get speedblitzed by them.
And overwhelmed with those that have 6-A.
But does Fate Artoria have sort of chance?

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

Indeed. She does get speedblitzed by them.
And overwhelmed with those that have 6-A.
But does Fate Artoria have sort of chance?

Yeah, that's why I said that Mysterious Heroine X with speed equalized could maybe fight her, because of the durability negation, and also gravity manipulation maybe? That or wait to see if servants are upgraded, and in that case to which tier normal Arturia go, in his case should be 6-c or 6-b I think, but even if she became 6-b as Lucy is supposed to be at least 6-c they should still be able to fight.

 

[Bobepipipiri]

Perhaps so.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Save this for when the servant scaling goes through

 

[Rez]

The strongest Artoria from the og vn is from fate route with avalon

 

[Bobepipipiri]

Well, avalon is restricted, i guess

 

[Regidian]

the servant np and servant scaling is still in go so better to wait till it get finished