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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread
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Yep. And this of course links Sinner scaling to Imp scaling!
I will say this was not how I expected to downgrade them into tier 9-8.
I will say this was not how I expected to downgrade them into tier 9-8.
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Probably need to recalc Pentious survive his ship exploding. Idk if its possible to apply inverse square law in the calc since he’s considerably smaller than the explosion and damage
Also i remember there being a scene in hazbin where pentious withstands an explosion by alastor might be worth calcing
Also i remember there being a scene in hazbin where pentious withstands an explosion by alastor might be worth calcing
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Its really weird that Loona can harm Andre considering they have been hyping up the Royal Demons constantly, calling them "unkillable" and "immortal" to the point that the characters find unbelievable that they can get hurt. Honestly Loona doing any damage to Andre is probably an outlier
Considering the importance of the scene and the fact that he healed from the de-powered Stolas throwing hands, calling it an outlier just seems kinda disingenuous
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Being unkillable and immortal is still a thing for them considering we see literally no damage on him by the end even after we see him bleeding and we know demons of this caliber can only be killed or harmed by angelic weapons. They’re unkillable and immortal. They’ll never die under the right circumstances but that doesn’t necessarily mean you can’t beat the absolute shit out of them
This, no need to consider anything an outlier
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People forget Andrealphus still won the battle, and was about to kill I.M.P. I think Imps weapons (the black ones and angelic are the ones that seemed to be the one dealing damage) and Loona while transformed would scale to Ars Goetia. Anyways I will probably maybe start working on my hazbin CRT, upgrading the verse to Tier 4 and shit
Edit: Btw Stella is confirmed to be > Andre I think, cool
Edit: Btw Stella is confirmed to be > Andre I think, cool
This is all forgetting that we have a cannon height for Blitz now, he's around 4ft tall!
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Uh huh. Well that’s fun. Have fun you two
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TBH You do you with angels and whatnot. I'm done handling them, but uh... yeah. People who don't scale to Alastor get to go down.
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Tbh my biggest problem with the episode is Loone hurting Andre, like I get I.M.P since they had weapons that would be Tier 7 but Loona? I guess she would be Tier 8 normally and Tier 7 while transformed? But like then why are Hellhounds so low?
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With Stolas' portrayal in previous episodes, it isn't really that surprising that Goetia just aren't all that, physically at least.
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I mean... like was said above, Blitz manhandled a Sinner, and Pentious, while a weakling, does scale to the general cast.
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That is still a lot more than most other Hellborn do to Sinners, if Angel Dust and Husk duoing an entire mob with only a few scrapes is anything to go by.
Blitz is APSOLUTELY above damn near any Hellborn we know of, so that's I think 2 reasons for I.M.P to scale to the Hazbin cast?
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He still had to overpower her
Besides IMP was more than ready to fight Loopty Goopty, and Moxxie took an attack by him (although he was quite damaged, he was like fine later in the episode and he's treated as the weakest IMP member)
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By the way did you know Loopty has a ******* gag-worthy profile?
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Nope
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I mean, it kinda validates me thinking Low 7-C general cast of Hazbin is a big high-ball for them with no real supporting fests.
For the record, anyone who actually scales to Alastor remains Low 7-C(or if he gets upgraded, whatever that tier is), he outscales most of the cast unless you want to hyper downplay him.
I.M.P is just really inconsistent, so I'd personally go with 8-C since that has a **** ton of 9-A support
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Also, Hazbin/Helluva would be the fourth verse I would be a major supporter of with a lot of characters in 8-C.(Overwatch, Dark Deception, and City of Heroes)
8-C is like #2 for tiers I have the most shit in. #1 is 8-A.
8-C is like #2 for tiers I have the most shit in. #1 is 8-A.
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This would downgrade Alastor as well since he scales from IMPs currently.
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Nah right now alastor scales to his own low 7-c feat of blowing up Pentious’ ship unless something changed recently that I wasn’t aware about.
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He scaled to it because Sir Pentious did.
It is not his direct AP, it’s just ship getting crashed into the earth due to its mass, so it’s not really Alastor’s feat much.
Also, his magic got destroyed by that explosion as well judging from the noises (he couldn’t undo his magic since he would need to snap for that).
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Alastor's hentai tentacles scale to him in AP, that's why they ain't higher on his profile lol
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The Tier 7 feat comes from Sir Pentious' ship exploding, which doesn't really have much to do with Alastor's tentacles themselves. They all even blew up from it.
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Eh, fine.
Eden_Warlock99
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Lad downscales from Adam anyway
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In just AP. With shadows.
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But his tentacles are not cause of explosion, it is ship crashing into the earth. As I said, his magic was destroyed as well as we can judge from the lack of noises.
Also, Sir Pentious easily survives pissed Alastor’s explosion.
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He was unharmed and using 0.0000001% of his power. Did you not see his face? He was very bored, not like he was pissed or mad or anything. Trust.
Whats with this "crashing down" thing? It exploded from being crushed for 1, and for 2, Alastors magic causes the explosion
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Yup.
Indirectly. It’s also literally destroyed by the same explosion as I said.
It’s like as if Sir Pentious himself flew towards the earth and got crushed. Would have caused same explosion. The direct cause here is ship’s mass, not Alastor’s tentacles.
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I'd actually calc that this time around, see if it gets 8-C results or contests the High 8-C feat for Imps being and outlier.
Are we actually considering making Al an 8-C character? Weren't there calcs and reasonings that were gonna put him in 7-A?
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Yeah.
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If Al drops to 8-C, that's how the cookie crumbles I guess.
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