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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread

I love how it's unanimous that Pilot Alastor was better than his actual show version, even if most people have different reasons for it
Yeah. Radio filter, humor, motivation, status, mysterious part and arguably design & voice acting are where Pilot is way better than series one. Series one is just too cocky and patronizing ngl, although I like this part of him, it feels too different from the Pilot version.
Definitely didn't get the glow up that Husk got between Pilot and show
Yeah, show Husk and pilot Hush feel like completely two different people as well, but Husk became better.
Bro lets be honest, Alastor in the pilot was just pure Aura, he didn't have ANYTHING showing that he was powerful more than he was scary
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Yeah. Radio filter, humor, motivation, status, mysterious part and arguably design & voice acting are where Pilot is way better than series one. Series one is just too cocky and patronizing ngl, although I like this part of him, it feels too different from the Pilot version.

Yeah, show Husk and pilot Hush feel like completely two different people as well, but Husk became better.
Well, they feel like the same person, it's just that Husk didn't really have much in Pilot alone.
 
Well, they feel like the same person, it's just that Husk didn't really have much in Pilot alone.
Idk, imo Husk in series is much more self-controlled, but there is a truth in your words.

And since we came to Pilot-Series thingy... why did everybody forget that Lucifer thought of Charlie as "failure" and "disappointment" and supposedly was planned as more of a bad character in Pilot? Just curious.
 
Idk, imo Husk in series is much more self-controlled, but there is a truth in your words.

And since we came to Pilot-Series thingy... why did everybody forget that Lucifer thought of Charlie as "failure" and "disappointment" and supposedly was planned as more of a bad character in Pilot? Just curious.
Story probably changed in Vivzie's mind to make him less of an ass
 
Story probably changed in Vivzie's mind to make him less of an ass
Vivzie also has a chronic case of being unable to commit to her ideas
Both of her current shows had a specific premise and she instead does something entirely different with the OG premise being a backdrop. So I wouldn't be shocked if she scrapped ideas from the pilot (Granted a show is not obligated to take everything from the pilot, but Hazbin barely did anything with the hotel. Sir Pentious's redemption was entirely a background thing, frankly, his desire to bang Cherry Bomb was better explored)
 
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YES *************, those who said Lucifer created Hell are now just, i don't know, something else, i was always thinking that Lucifer never created Hell, he was just banished.
also we saw the Satan, and i hope people will stop to think that this Lucifer is the devil
 
YES *************, those who said Lucifer created Hell are now just, i don't know, something else, i was always thinking that Lucifer never created Hell, he was just banished.
also we saw the Satan, and i hope people will stop to think that this Lucifer is the devil
1. Lucifer never was stated to have created hell lol. It’s very blatant he was just banished

2. Him and Satan we’re confirmed to be seperate years ago
 
1. Lucifer never was stated to have created hell lol. It’s very blatant he was just banished

2. Him and Satan we’re confirmed to be seperate years ago
1.i refer to the people that think this Lucifer is the devil and he created hell (based on the bibble and ignoring this is a different from that in everything)
also the same people who think he is Satan, when both are different guys.
2.yeah but people still thought they were the same guy (somehow) again, talking about the people who think Adam has the same story from the bibble, with no proof for that
 
Wait so would Stolas need a seperate key since he got nerfed to IMP level it seems like.
Let's see how they handle it first before discussing any future keys
I do think it does give credence to Hell's hierarchy being a more literal power structure than one might expect though
 
Let's see how they handle it first before discussing any future keys
I do think it does give credence to Hell's hierarchy being a more literal power structure than one might expect though
I’m honestly surprised that we haven’t seen overlords in HB, you’d expect there to at least be voxtek lmfao.
 
Tho this does put up a theory that vassago is an overlord (since he was shown as an overlord in the hh pilot) and a goetia. Similar to Rosie being a hellborn and an overlord.
 
Satan, Luci created Hell


Yall, Satan didnt exist before Lucifer. Nor did he ever rule Hell until Lucifer let him. Hell is Lucifers creation

He is full of shit, Vivzie confirmed it


I'm honestly kinada shocked that its so hard for people to tell that Satan was full of it when he claimed to be the ruler of hell before Lucifer. For me, it was as easy as seeing the look on Ozzie and Bees faces when he said that for me to know. Well, that and all the other lore we already know and have.
 
Who created them ? Luci

I thought Hell was a void before he fell
The story Charlie tells makes it sound like once Adam and Eve COULD sin, that just helped to create them as universal concepts. Although we do see a lot of galaxy and solar system imagery from the higher angels and Stolas, so I'm hoping for at least a multi solar system level for Luci if not uni+ because of creating hell. But I know that creation statement is iffy to some people, I just think that Viv doesnt really care about having to specify that Luci did infact "make" hell.
 
The story Charlie tells makes it sound like once Adam and Eve COULD sin, that just helped to create them as universal concepts. Although we do see a lot of galaxy and solar system imagery from the higher angels and Stolas, so I'm hoping for at least a multi solar system level for Luci if not uni+ because of creating hell.
Didn't he work alongside other angels to create the real universe ?
 
The story Charlie tells makes it sound like once Adam and Eve COULD sin, that just helped to create them as universal concepts. Although we do see a lot of galaxy and solar system imagery from the higher angels and Stolas, so I'm hoping for at least a multi solar system level for Luci if not uni+ because of creating hell. But I know that creation statement is iffy to some people, I just think that Viv doesnt really care about having to specify that Luci did infact "make" hell.
In all honesty, I think the angels should, and will be shown to be in the teir 3 to teir 2, it's just that some people think that the whole "the angels created the universe" line is too vague. And even though we see what looks like a literal whole galaxy in Stolas' barrier he summoned to protect Blitz, I think most people here would class that as just esthetics instead of my personal belief, that it's a form of physical representation that he is solar system/galaxy level
 
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