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Wait, is an episode actually subtitled in English? For automatic translation.
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Hazbin Hotel Discussion Thread
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Wait, is an episode actually subtitled in English? For automatic translation.
Evolution
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Helluva Boss: Millie causes a crates
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Wait, why Sinners coming back to life indefinitely is Regeneration and not Resurrection? And why tf Alastor’s possibly FTL got removed
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They got more for regen I guess
Adam was explicitly casual, and he himself BARELY has a justification for Possibly FTL
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It looks more like Resurrection and Angelic Weapons negating Resurrection, because both Adam and weakened Alastor easily regen after getting hurt by it.
He was clearly mad at Alastor after “you think you’re tough shit, huh?”
Mb then.
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Alastor didn't regen from what we've seen so far
Adam just resists the whole regen neg shit
Mad=/=Serious. The MILLISECOND Adam got even remotely serious, he threw a beam slash and proceeded to one-shot Alastor. You think Alastor wouldn't have dodged either if he could?
Alastor can't properly react to serious Adam
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He got a big wound from Adam but in Finale Song it isn’t there.
If you’re mad, you’re gonna try your best to hit. Also why would he be not serious?
It was an Attack Speed that Alastor didn’t react to. Then he was left without cane aka weakened as seen with Demon Form being canceled immediately.
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Yes, yes it is.
We've seen Adam serious, he mixes beam shots with melee.(Ya know, what he did against Lucifer?) Against Alastor, it was ALL melee until he dropped the Radio is dead line.
Adam's beams are not faster than his attacks, and why would Alastor, who KNOWS FOR A FACT his power is "connected to his cane"(complete headcanon by Alastor apologists) block Adam's attack after the man one-shot his barrier if he could dodge? Alastor would know his cane wouldn't hold up.
Plus, my point was that he couldn't PROPERLY react, there's a difference between that and being blitzed outright
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You're correct that at that moment it is there, but after "We're doing it with a smile" it isn't.
At that point he was completely mad. He also shoots his beams even if he's casual, y'know? So I don't think it being melee or beam shots should prove or disprove whether he's being serious.
I'm not saying that Alastor could dodge the beam, beam obviously completely blitzed him. He even says "What just happened?", so it is clear he couldn't perceive it.
My point is that it would just upscale Adam's Attack Speed as Alastor clearly reacted to Adam's Combat and Flight speed and even called him sloppy. It is also consistent with the fact that beams definitely look faster than Lucifer&Adam's flight.
Also, how is it headcanon? We literally see his demonic form being completely turned off the very moment cane broke. Alastor even says "F*ck" (he cursed only 4 times throughout the whole show btw, this one included).
Al was blitzed by Adam's beam though? Or mb I misunderstood.
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We don't know how long that was, Alastor could have easily gotten medical treatment due to off-screen. That automatically negs it from being a regen feat
He's also heavily injuring power Overlord-tiers with the beams, and anyone below that(Pentious) gets vaporized I never said Adam was uber casual for it all, i said was that when he did get even somewhat serious he ****** up Alastor. Plus, Adam has reason to prolong the fight, due to actively loving the exterminations.
It's kinda hard to look at the sun ain't it?
"Careless and unsystematic; excessively casual." ~ Definition of Sloppy in the Oxford dictionary
Damn, sounds like even the show agrees I'm right on this. Adam was dicking around, and even while casual sliced and diced Alastor's attacks, and the only way Alastor could even tag him was a sneak attack.
Oh, should the fight happen in 0.000000000001 second? On-screen is a pretty shitty determination for speed.
Let see, every other time he goes full demon he doesn't have his cane out, plus, we see him use his powers without his cane quite literally seconds after it gets broken! As I said, it's headcanon from Alastor apologists.
Let's see... Alastor cursed to Lucifer by straight up saying "**** you", he called I think Helen(or whoever he name was) a bitch. And he cursed to Adam's face. It is not indicative of anything when Alastor curses, he's just not cursing like a sailor like Blitzø or Angel.
See above
ShionAH
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Susan, it was a female
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It was literally after Alastor’s solo song + I doubt stuff like this can get medical treatment in minutes
If you love something it doesn’t mean you are holding back. His face was already mad after “Tougher than you, hahaha”
It is still a blitz lol.
Do you really think Alastor meant “You lack discipline, control, and worst: you are casual”? Heck, it does not even fit into his character to admit that even if it was the truth.
What? The point was that on-screen we see beams being faster than their flight. When did I say or imply 0.000001 second stuff?
Since when did I say he needs his cane around to have Demon Form? The point was that once it was broken, Alastor literally loses his demonic form and implies that he’s f*cked up now. It isn’t headcanon — it is heavily implied. And yes, he can use his powers, I said he was weakened after that, not powerless.
Exactly, he isn’t a sailor, it emphasizes that the situation even makes Alastor curse.
I still don’t see how it isn’t a blitz.
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Could someone explain why Adam’s Mountain Level laser scales to physicals? It all goes off Adam’s SS but I don’t get where the justification comes from ("His punches are just as powerful as his Holy Light"). Do Angels have UES or smth?
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Something Something Charlie states angels are made of light Something Something
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Given how long it's been, I'm assuming the mountain feat is staying
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Tbh this should have been explained on the pages or smth
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I just spouted out the first thing that came to mind to justify it lmfao
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Lmao
Tbf it can work if it was literal but I watched show too long ago to remember whether it was literal or no
If no then idk how scale lasers to physicals, we can’t just assume Lucifer’s punches > Adam’s blast or smth
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Take a look
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The First Man vs An Angel of the Lord
Castiel has regained his powers now that Jack is in charge of heaven. However during an accident he ends up stranded in another world, where he encounters Adam, the first man, who is an angel in that world, after a heated argument both confront each other. Rules: Seraph Castiel (7-B). Vs Adam...
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Whatever happened to the vox calc. Wouldn’t it upgrade overlords to high 7-c
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Someone should probably do that
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No proper proof of it scaling to anybody but Vox's Durability... who only fights Alastor from what we've seen so far.
And we have no idea how their fight went other then the fact Vox narrowly won. So that makes 2 characters who scale to Alastor, three if you count Zestial, but he doesn't have enough information for a profile that isn't "hey he's strong enough to make every overlord around him think twice about pissing him off"
So two people would scale in AP that have profiles(Being Alastor and Charlie on probably a 'likely') and Vox would have it in Durability.
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It still affects the most popular character in the verse so we should prolly do a crt. How does vox scale in durability btw?
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It kind of went through Vox first and he seemed completely uninjured after the fact
Can't say it scales to his AP cause he did it while plugged in, though I wouldn't mind a 'likely' scaling to Alastor's own scaling to his durability
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I’ll prolly make a crt if when I have time. Also do we still scale alastor to stolas?
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You do not want to get me started on Stolas' scaling he is a headache.
If you're not reworking him, go ahead with applying likely High 7-C to him in the CRT, but that bird has more issues then that.
Also, any Deadly Sins who have profiles would scale above the High 7-C rating for obvious ******' reasons.
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Alastor is above Vox.
Vox does NOT scale to Alastor. That Valentino comment was clearly about popularity fight. I’mma actually include that in Alastor CRT too.
Why would Zestial scale to Alastor?
I think Alastor should scale straight up, Charlie being as likely is good I think?
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Okay and do ya got proof of that notion? All we know is that Alastor narrowly lost to Vox once. That's it.
I don't know maybe the fact Zestial made him visibly nervous and Alastor was one of the people shut up by Zestial finishing his tea?
Charlie's profile kept the statement of her base form being stronger than Alastor.
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Maybe, I have no idea though.
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Vox's next actions. His words: "I'm gonna show who is REALLY in charge of town NOW" right after Val's statement. If it was about fight, Vox would have gone to Alastor and physically fight him. But what did he do instead? Blackmailed in a video and never went 1v1 again. Also, even IF it is a physical fight, Alastor and Vs imply that Vox got outside help from Vs.
Not really, mostly for Egg Bois.
Alastor was not talking atm iirc? Gotta rewatch the scene. Anyways respect =/= Zestial is stronger.
Where?
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It's moreso the fact vox is pissing himself at alastor while alastor's just balling, we should just say they scale to each other for now until season 2 comes out and explains how alastor "lost".
When was alastor nervous? Also Zestial is well respected by other overlords, thats probably why he was shut up, alastor and rosie are besties and she makes jokes with him about charlie but he doesn't care either
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i feel like all the overlords seeing all the Vs as a bunch of clowns in spite of them being overlords, unlike alastor who is at the very least vaguely respected despite his disappearance, is a bit better proof than that.
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True, but tbf what I wrote was just a short version of my proof. There will be a whole essay in the blog.
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what blog?
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I'll cook it soon when I have more time, but it will be about Alastor
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Would you want to try your luck in a second 1v1 if you nearly lost last time?
Also, Alastor heavily implied Vox didn't have very much power on the front of influence without Valentino and Velvette to back him up. Which is kind of true, he, along with the other vees, have to adapt, while most of the other Overlords don't.
I dunno that's just what I read his body language as(making sure he was neat when before he wasn't, etc)
Alastor's attention was on Zestial at least, considering he was dicking around the rest of the time.
Huh, thought that was kept, shows you how much I keep track of these profiles.
I mean you just heard a guy you know is highly intelligent and dangerous basically say he's got bigger plans then ever and repeat the first part of your song you thought you sung to yourself back at you, I'd be at least nervous if that happened to me.
And yeah, having them both just scale to eachother should be fine
Thing is, unlike most of the other notable Overlords, Zestial has no shown, stated, or even implied realm of influence, which would also throw him into the pure power boat for why he's an Overlord. Also see above.
To be fair they don't exactly give much reason to respect them, all three act like clowns either through Social Media(Hello Vox[Respectless]) Or straight up in public(Velvette).
If you don't make yourself respectable, especially with a group including folks like Zestial and Carmilla who are both extremely uptight, you're not getting any respect unless you literally force it with sheer power, and the only one of the Vess who might be able to do that doesn't actually care about those meetings in the first place
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tbh i wouldn't give af about those meetings either. i didn't die and go to hell just to go through more meetings in the afterlife who tf do they think i am???
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