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Ok, to start, I'm going to copy and paste my explanation from the general discussion thread about this.
"Welcome to, the Deadly Monarch discovers weird things that don't make sense part 432,584,743!
This week, why the hell is Alastor not upscaling to at LEAST baseline multi city block level!
As we see on the profiles, all hellborn and sinner demons at least scale to Pentious, but Alastor, by a NUMBER of explanations on his page, tell us that he should MASSIVELY upscale ANYTHING committed by average demons sans Stolas' Grimoire in Blitz' hands...obviously. Like, the guy is STATED to be WAAAYYY above the average, to be "all powerful" even, and the calc that low tiers currently scale to is ONLY 6.3 tons off from baseline 8-A, does the in universe glaze, vivs glaze, VOX LITERALLY BEING TERRIFIED OF THE MAN, THE FEAT WAS SO FRIGGIN CASUAL HE LITERALLY DIDNT HAVE TO MOVE AN INCH, and him temporarily holding his own against Adam NOT give him that benefit of the doubt??? All this would mean is the sins and Stolas get to have above baseline 8-A, "oh, but we don't have any reason to think that Stolas is stronger than any regular sinner!", ok so for one, he's a Goetic demon, and TWO, "Stolas! I hereby strip you of your status, YOUR POWER, and your title; for the next hundred years.", which literally RIGHT after we see him physically drained.
In other words, I'm just saying that we should give Al an 8-A baseline rating off of all the narrative stuff + the casual nature they were committed, Viv saying Al would physically ONE-SHOT Pen, and then give the Goetic demons and Sins above baseline 8-A. Am I not like...the only one who noticed that or am I the only one who cares?"
These are my reasons for why I think that Alastor HAS to upscale to at least baseline, with others who directly scale/upscale him having above baseline. However, these arguments I'm using are pretty much applicable to ALL the overlords, as they are all literally stated to be far more powerful than average sinners due to their soul contracts, and Alastor upscales them all. And yes, even Vox as, there are so many reasons why the whole "are you still pissed that he almost beat you that time~" is such an obviously out of context and misleading line. Vox was terrified of him coming back, got cocky, and then AL put him back in his place making him afraid enough to actually try DOING something about it. Not to mention Al being an overlord butcher for so long and the FACT that, we don't even know if "almost beat you" was even talking about an ACTUAL battle.
Because it was either that:
1. Alastor most likely got held back from killing Vox for one reason or another, possibly his souls owner, or even just that Vox ran for it as we know viv stated that AL doesn't go after people who actually run as a part of his "code"
or 2. I've seen this around some and was just wondering due to how good of a prevailing theory it is but, what if it was talking about a more political battle that Vox almost lost? It would line up really well with the fact we know that not too long after the "battle" is when AL disappeared, which is what I got from him saying that 7 years line, that it happened almost right after
And on top of all of this, it's the way AL handles actually powerful people, Adam, Luci, etc, he wasn't even SLIGHTLY afraid, even going as far as antagonizing the LITERAL KING, and thinking he could solo Adam WITHOUT angelic weapons. Absolutely NONE of this describes a dude who actually LOST a battle and then had to hide, as that would probably make him far more reserved and less of a button pusher as, if VOX, a mere SINNER could beat him, then what TF is the 2 above capable of? I really and whole heartedly think that if the above I said is passed, that AL should actually be above baseline as well, with the lesser overlords getting baseline.
That might be easier said than done on this wiki, but I'm MORE than happy to defend my point (in a friendly manner), so I actually WANT to be questioned so I can make my case more airtight.
Thanks for reading my rant of a CRT, hope enough of y'all agree with me to pass at least the OG baseline.
"Welcome to, the Deadly Monarch discovers weird things that don't make sense part 432,584,743!
This week, why the hell is Alastor not upscaling to at LEAST baseline multi city block level!
As we see on the profiles, all hellborn and sinner demons at least scale to Pentious, but Alastor, by a NUMBER of explanations on his page, tell us that he should MASSIVELY upscale ANYTHING committed by average demons sans Stolas' Grimoire in Blitz' hands...obviously. Like, the guy is STATED to be WAAAYYY above the average, to be "all powerful" even, and the calc that low tiers currently scale to is ONLY 6.3 tons off from baseline 8-A, does the in universe glaze, vivs glaze, VOX LITERALLY BEING TERRIFIED OF THE MAN, THE FEAT WAS SO FRIGGIN CASUAL HE LITERALLY DIDNT HAVE TO MOVE AN INCH, and him temporarily holding his own against Adam NOT give him that benefit of the doubt??? All this would mean is the sins and Stolas get to have above baseline 8-A, "oh, but we don't have any reason to think that Stolas is stronger than any regular sinner!", ok so for one, he's a Goetic demon, and TWO, "Stolas! I hereby strip you of your status, YOUR POWER, and your title; for the next hundred years.", which literally RIGHT after we see him physically drained.
In other words, I'm just saying that we should give Al an 8-A baseline rating off of all the narrative stuff + the casual nature they were committed, Viv saying Al would physically ONE-SHOT Pen, and then give the Goetic demons and Sins above baseline 8-A. Am I not like...the only one who noticed that or am I the only one who cares?"
These are my reasons for why I think that Alastor HAS to upscale to at least baseline, with others who directly scale/upscale him having above baseline. However, these arguments I'm using are pretty much applicable to ALL the overlords, as they are all literally stated to be far more powerful than average sinners due to their soul contracts, and Alastor upscales them all. And yes, even Vox as, there are so many reasons why the whole "are you still pissed that he almost beat you that time~" is such an obviously out of context and misleading line. Vox was terrified of him coming back, got cocky, and then AL put him back in his place making him afraid enough to actually try DOING something about it. Not to mention Al being an overlord butcher for so long and the FACT that, we don't even know if "almost beat you" was even talking about an ACTUAL battle.
Because it was either that:
1. Alastor most likely got held back from killing Vox for one reason or another, possibly his souls owner, or even just that Vox ran for it as we know viv stated that AL doesn't go after people who actually run as a part of his "code"
or 2. I've seen this around some and was just wondering due to how good of a prevailing theory it is but, what if it was talking about a more political battle that Vox almost lost? It would line up really well with the fact we know that not too long after the "battle" is when AL disappeared, which is what I got from him saying that 7 years line, that it happened almost right after
And on top of all of this, it's the way AL handles actually powerful people, Adam, Luci, etc, he wasn't even SLIGHTLY afraid, even going as far as antagonizing the LITERAL KING, and thinking he could solo Adam WITHOUT angelic weapons. Absolutely NONE of this describes a dude who actually LOST a battle and then had to hide, as that would probably make him far more reserved and less of a button pusher as, if VOX, a mere SINNER could beat him, then what TF is the 2 above capable of? I really and whole heartedly think that if the above I said is passed, that AL should actually be above baseline as well, with the lesser overlords getting baseline.
This is all FORGETING what the leaks told us which, fair, I know why we can't use them yet, BUT, they still prove my point!
That might be easier said than done on this wiki, but I'm MORE than happy to defend my point (in a friendly manner), so I actually WANT to be questioned so I can make my case more airtight.
Thanks for reading my rant of a CRT, hope enough of y'all agree with me to pass at least the OG baseline.
