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Hareta Vs Luffy(Pokemon Vs One piece)
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DaMonkeMan
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How does it work? He can't even use future sight to try and stop it from happening or anything? Also what do we do if, hypothetically, he can beat Hareta and most of his Pokemon, but can't touch the Ghost Pokemon? Is it just a partial win in that case?
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Even in the games skill swap ignores accuracy and evasion of the opponent, so dodging isn’t possible
and in the manga I am pretty sure it instantly swaps the abilities
and in the manga I am pretty sure it instantly swaps the abilities
Sniper670
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It works differently for many mons but sometimes the users eyes glow and skill is swapped(not something you can really dodge)
DaMonkeMan
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So passive abilities, right? In this case wouldn't the Pokemon rob Luffy of his DF and/or Haki? Also, how long does the effect last?
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It lasts until the Pokemon stops fighting or gets defeated.
it would likely rob him of his DF
DaMonkeMan
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Hm.. problem with that is that he might still be able to beat them. Luffy seems to fight with mostly his fists and feet, which actually can still lead him to being one of the most powerful people in his verse considering Garp had no weapons or fruit and yet matched Roger and Whitebeard in his prime.
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Yeah but his entire fighting style is based on his devil fruit. He does fight with his fists, but he will be much much weaker here as he cannot use 2nd Gear, 3rd Gear or any of his Gomu Gomu no moves.
Also Luffy will still no longer have his ability even if he beat the Pokemon with Skill swap (as to fully remove it he would lose or win the entire fight). Also he cannot beat Misdreavus at all (because of Ghost Type
DaMonkeMan
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Yeah, way I see it we should not include ghost pokemon in battles with people who can't even touch ghosts, tbh.
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Empoleon is 6-C, only Onix and Misdreavus are High 7-A
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Damn. Can't Hareta punch at 6-C? Also, he has Minun and Kadabra(Who also has Skill Swap).
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Yeah
DaMonkeMan
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Yeah seems like Hareta has a lot of Pokemon who can use Skill Swap, this is probably a stomp, if not a stomp then it's just a win for Hareta.
DaMonkeMan
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Wait, it's named Skill Swap? Does Luffy get one of the Pokemon's abilities from it then? Or does it just rob him of his df?
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Yeah, he gets levitate, but doesn't know how to control it.
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He gets one as well but it’s not all that useful for him
DaMonkeMan
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ehh, ain't that useful when the pokemon can have the Flight of Gear Fourth too. Well, I guess Hareta ( or more specifically Hareta's pokemon ) would win.
DaMonkeMan
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Fair point. So stealing his fruit actually might not be much of a use if they don't have the battle intelligence like him.
DaMonkeMan
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" Powers aren't needed to conquer the world " - Kaidou, explaining how Roger had no fruit, but was still one of the most powerful people in their verse that he'd ever know.
This is relevant because it proves that Luffy might be able to evolve to be as powerful as people like Roger without needing his fruit, after all Garp did the same. So it's not a stretch to think that removing his devil fruit won't exactly be the end of him.
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It’s not the same
Luffys entire fighting style is based on his fruit. His AP value for this version is based on his fruit. Luffy has never not used his fruit and is not able to cope without it because of that
DaMonkeMan
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I mean, I guess? We don't actually know if he could still be as strong as the others in his verse without his fruit, come to think of it. I was just assuming he could try to adapt to it.
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He could if he trained for months-years. but right now he is too tied to his fruit to perform anywhere near his peak without it
DaMonkeMan
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True.
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